The Death Penalty

[dwarfzilla15]

The death penalty is a double edged blade; you will never know if the person who you convict of a crime actually committed the crime. However, the death penalty saves the state loads of money that could be better spent elsewhere.

 

[backlash07lure]

I think the Death Penatly should exist in SOME CASES,
these cases include deaths/murdering another human.
All other cases like mass drug sells or mass raping of another human without a wepon should not have anything to do with the death penalty.

 

[PerfectPc]

I disagree completely. Death penalty was brought a way kill serial killers very fast and efficiently but, there has been many cases in the past in which the person being death sentenced was found NOT, and this was after his/her death. It also is a unfair way to die. When you get death sentenced it's usually over in a couple of minutes. Would you rather spend you whole lifetime in jail being slaughtered at or killed in a couple of minutes?...

i would rather have someone be put into a secure jail ( this is what the u.s should work at, securing their jails ) and be laughed and humiliated at until he/she is dead by themselves.

So this is my statement why i believe that having a death penalty is totally unfair, and useless

 

[Shredderbeam]

I think the Death Penatly should exist in SOME CASES,
these cases include deaths/murdering another human.

Why should it exist in those cases?

 

[megaman 2006]

Its much cheaper than keeping them alive.

If they are in for a life sentence, why not kill them? If they will be dead before they get out, then there is no point in keeping them alive, other than seem merciful. Which I suppose is important in this day and age. We wouldn't want to be the next Nazi Germany would we?

 

[Cool Dog]

IMO taking life away at ANY surcomstances isnt good. I dont support it. God has given life for a reason (i dont believe in god tho :S ) Everyone has the right to live. And i actually belive that if some1 dies (gets shot/ran over/killed in any way) it is supposed to happen becouse of some un-natural thing. Like for e.g. lets say theres a guy who is actually an undercover shitbag spy and he attends to murder some1 important. He gains trust to the important person and lets him be his bodyguard. Then when he could actually KILL the important person he dies from some1 from a gun shot or something. And when the killer (the one who kills the spy douche) gets arrested, he doesnt know why he has done that. Its like some un-natural force. I dunno if that made any sence at all but hey... And i red in the newspaper like 3 days ago, a Italian guy killed his Lithuanian girlfriend. And he had no explanation to that. He didnt know what he was doing. That was his excuse. Mayb the girl would have done something very shitty later on. 10 or 30 years, no matter. And then theres the dude who knifes gis gf's head off and fetched the head to the girlfriends parents. After he done that, he didnt remember anything? He didnt even know that shie died/got killed. So yeah i think that taking life away from the killer isnt nessecary. They should be punished, BADLY. But not a killing spree. Jail till the end. Sorry if you didnt get my idea

 

[prevan]

I think they should face the death penalty if they kill someone... or someting along the lines of that... because most of the time they won't even have a painful death when they are killed...

 

[OxyMind]

I actually did a research paper on capital punishment recently, and I know the pros and cons of it pretty well. When I began the paper I felt that the eye for an eye punishment is fair, or several eyes for an eye in the case of a serial killer. Although each execution costs the state millions of dollars, compared to the little amount of money to maintain someone in prison for life. There are a number of pros and cons for each side, and that made it extremely difficult to pick a side. One arguement for pro death penalty was that it is a deterrent for other murderers. This I figured out was total bs, because most killers are in the heat of the moment and not scared of death. In the end I decided I agreed with most of the current laws of capital punishment, which are no one under 18 can be sentenced to death, and that there should be special circumstances for the mentally retarded. In the end, I came up with the conclusion that it shouldn't be abolished, but it should be watched for special circumstances. I agree with many of the cons though, but I had to pick a side for the paper. (far too lazy to put up a bunch of pros and cons, but maybe if someone argues with me)

 

[sn1per]

if some of u want life in prison over a death penalty because theyll feel more pain, why not just torture and kill them.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I think they should face the death penalty if they kill someone... or someting along the lines of that... because most of the time they won't even have a painful death when they are killed...

Why is having them die an important death important?

I actually did a research paper on capital punishment recently, and I know the pros and cons of it pretty well. When I began the paper I felt that the eye for an eye punishment is fair, or several eyes for an eye in the case of a serial killer. Although each execution costs the state millions of dollars, compared to the little amount of money to maintain someone in prison for life. There are a number of pros and cons for each side, and that made it extremely difficult to pick a side. One arguement for pro death penalty was that it is a deterrent for other murderers. This I figured out was total bs, because most killers are in the heat of the moment and not scared of death. In the end I decided I agreed with most of the current laws of capital punishment, which are no one under 18 can be sentenced to death, and that there should be special circumstances for the mentally retarded. In the end, I came up with the conclusion that it shouldn't be abolished, but it should be watched for special circumstances. I agree with many of the cons though, but I had to pick a side for the paper. (far too lazy to put up a bunch of pros and cons, but maybe if someone argues with me)

What are the pros of the death penalty? I guarantee that most of them are flawed.

why not just torture and kill them.

That would be "cruel and unusual punishment".

 

[porman]

if some of u want life in prison over a death penalty because theyll feel more pain, why not just torture and kill them.

because then you would be just as bad as him. to torture anyone regardless is inhuman. The death penalty/surving life isnt so they feel pain. its so they are no longer a threat to society. In america they treat prisoners better then there homeless people.

I personaly am against the death penalty, i dont think the government should have the right to take peoples lives.

 

[OxyMind]

What are the pros of the death penalty? I guarantee that most of them are flawed.

1. It stops murderers from killing again. not flawed
2. Gives closure to friends and family. not flawed
3. Acts as deterrent. already said flawed
4. Cost more to maintain people in prison. flawed

That's a few off the top of my head. There is a few more, but it is pretty equal.

EDIT: Not painful, I'm sure lethal infection would not be completely painfree, but whos knows?
Some Statistics: ways over the years

929 Lethal Injection - painful?
154 Electrocution - Painful
11 Gas Chamber - Painful
3 Hanging - Painful
2 Firing Squad - for sure painful

 

[Shredderbeam]

1. It stops murderers from killing again. not flawed

Jailing them in a maximum security prison stops them from killing.

2. Gives closure to friends and family. not flawed

That is flawed. Closure? To me, that's another way of saying "fulfills a petty sense of revenge". Do we kill people to make others feel better about the incident?

3. Acts as deterrent. already said flawed

There's actually no direct evidence that shows that it is an effective deterrent.

On the subject of Prison Vs. Death, I'm sure most murderers feel acomplished, and would much rather die than get ass raped for the rest of their life.

How kind of you to make that decision for all of them.

 

[OxyMind]

Jailing them in a maximum security prison stops them from killing.

Actually it doesn't stop them because they can continue killing in prison, or escape and decide to go on a killing spree.

That is flawed. Closure? To me, that's another way of saying "fulfills a petty sense of revenge". Do we kill people to make others feel better about the incident?

Yeah it isn't a pro I specifically like, but if someone killed someone in my family or one of my friends, I wouldn't mind seeing them killed. I suppose it would help me sleep at night , but that one is really an opinion.

There's actually no direct evidence that shows that it is an effective deterrent.

I know I already said that one is flawed twice.

How kind of you to make that decision for all of them.

Haha your right..."thinks" ..."tries to stoping thinking about that"...I'll just take that part out of my post.

 

[roner101]

i'm a big fan of the law code made by hamurabbi (i think) that states an eye for and eye. But how does it cost the government millions of dollars to kill some one and its cheaper to actually feed and house them under maximum security for the rest of their lives?

the money question is referring to oxymind's post

 

[OxyMind]

i'm a big fan of the law code made by hamurabbi (i think) that states an eye for and eye. But how does it cost the government millions of dollars to kill some one and its cheaper to actually feed and house them under maximum security for the rest of their lives?

the money question is referring to oxymind's post

Yeah that is something I wondered while doing my paper. It cost millions because of the large amount of case appeals that happen. Unlike other cons, this one has been proven.

 

[roner101]

ok thanks for the clarification. Also im not sure how much you would know about this, but does the average person who might get the death penalty have the necessary financial savings to spend large sums of money on lawyers to appeal their cases? Lol who would loan money to someone that might get the death penalty?

 

[porman]

ok thanks for the clarification. Also im not sure how much you would know about this, but does the average person who might get the death penalty have the necessary financial savings to spend large sums of money on lawyers to appeal their cases? Lol who would loan money to someone that might get the death penalty?

The people that get on death row dont normally have great amounts of money. You wont be able to get a loan lol. they just get those shit lawyers, then they get dead.

Which is another reason why i disagree with the death penalty, if someone cant afford a good lawyer they may be falsely accused.

 

[Dark Devil]

Well yes in some cases the death penalty doesn't do much except electrocute the killer. They should have a choice if the person who was raped or something but not dead he/she should decide the punishment for them.

 

[Swan]

Bullets = less expensive than food, clothing and shelter for offenders.

Personally I couldn't care. It's their life they've decided to fuck up.