The Catholic God

[wtp]

we do not know so much, do understand such things.

^this

I'm Catholic, but also atheist. I used to believe in God, and there's definitely something comforting and motivating about believing in him.

Really, it's something you're going to have to consider on your own.

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

You're trying to see how you're God can be proven wrong.

Once you apply logic and reasoning, many things can prove a God mention in any bible isn't existent.

You can't intelligently debate on your question if you base it off the bible and belief in his existence then . You're simply asking for opinions that lead to nothing. You're simply trying to find a way to prove that phrase that silenced you wrong through nothing but opinions and ignorance.

If God is as what most people believed; you can't use any sort of reasoning or logic against him, attempting to understand God and his powers would be foolish.

That's debates on whether he/she exist are simply stupid, religions can't win what they can't prove.

This topic doesn't belong. Most religion topics here don't belong here and shouldn't be brought up as the religious people always end up upset.

 

[Karl Marx RS]

One can argue that He is not omnipotent if He cannot retain His divine powers when in the form of a child.

That was about enough for me.

 

[DropKick Murphys]

Further questions to think about OP:

I presume you do not believe in Zeus, or Thor, or Ra, or any gods other than the standard Judeo-Christian one, no?
Why don't you believe in those gods? Recognize that your reasoning for not believing in those gods is probably the same reason I don't believe in yours.

 

[Tckr]

I'm actually curious to know does it say God is omnipotent?
I know people claim he is, and I agree he should be for all religious people sum him up to be. But does the biggest fiction book in the world say he is?

Its in the Eucharistic Prayers

Father, all-powerful and ever-living God,
we do well always and everywhere to give You thanks.

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Further questions to think about OP:

I presume you do not believe in Zeus, or Thor, or Ra, or any gods other than the standard Judeo-Christian one, no?
Why don't you believe in those gods? Recognize that your reasoning for not believing in those gods is probably the same reason I don't believe in yours.

The Greeks used god's as a way of explaining things they didn't understand. They believed in many gods. We don't believe in those gods because we believe in one God.

 

[Gomenasai]

Maybe were all god. Maybe we are everything. Maybe dying is waking up. We will NEVER know where the universe ends, are we alone, or what happens after we die. Speculating about it makes a good argument and is undoubtedly fun but its like eating soup with a spoon.

 

[SuF]

The Greeks used god's as a way of explaining things they didn't understand. They believed in many gods. We don't believe in those gods because we believe in one God.

Creationism? Miracles? Should I go on? The Bible never states there is only one god. It only states to only worship one.

 

[ProudCheater]

well the reasoning through that paradox is this

A. god is in everything
B. god can do anything, he is omnipotent.
C. god created a number of mountains.
D. god can take the form of a child.
E. a child can not lift a mountain.

therefore, has created a mountain that he can not lift

Why can't he? last time I checked Jesus never really tried lifting a mountain. That is like saying someone can't lift 100 pounds because they never tried.

 

[malakadang]

Why can't he? last time I checked Jesus never really tried lifting a mountain. That is like saying someone can't lift 100 pounds because they never tried.

Name me 3 children that can lift a mountain please.

 

[the hectic]

Further questions to think about OP:

I presume you do not believe in Zeus, or Thor, or Ra, or any gods other than the standard Judeo-Christian one, no?
Why don't you believe in those gods? Recognize that your reasoning for not believing in those gods is probably the same reason I don't believe in yours.

Actually no, I do. I just don't follow the same beliefs as those gods. Who am I to say your god isn't real but mine is? Also I just wanted to know what y'all thought about the conversation I had, but I guess it just became a flame your god is gay thread.

 

[Gomenasai]

Why can't he? last time I checked Jesus never really tried lifting a mountain. That is like saying someone can't lift 100 pounds because they never tried.

that is completely different things. If your going to compare one thing to another at least try to have then on a similar scale.

An omnipotent god taking form of a child and lifting up mountains is a lot different then someone lifting weights for the first time.

 

[Tckr]

Creationism? Miracles? Should I go on? The Bible never states there is only one god. It only states to only worship one.

Cant think of anything for creationism. Miracles are works of God. Basically proof that God exists.

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-one-god.htm, I don't study the bible so I wouldn't know where to find them.

 

[raziaex]

Cant think of anything for creationism. Miracles are works of God. Basically proof that God exists.

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-one-god.htm, I don't study the bible so I wouldn't know where to find them.

What sort of logic do you use? lmao how come I've never used it before?
What you've done is essentially taken one assumption and used it as basis for another.

 

[SuF]

Cant think of anything for creationism. Miracles are works of God. Basically proof that God exists.

http://www.bible.ca/trinity/trinity-oneness-unity-one-god.htm, I don't study the bible so I wouldn't know where to find them.

You believe that the most reasonable explanation for miracles is a god. I believe that the most reasonable explanation is a natural explanation that we just do not know about yet or just random chance.

 

[DropKick Murphys]

They believed in many gods. We don't believe in those gods because we believe in one God.

Well yes, that's rather the point isn't it? Why do you believe in the Christian God instead of the thousands of other gods humans have, just as sincerely as you, believed in?

"I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours." - Stephen Roberts

Actually no, I do. I just don't follow the same beliefs as those gods. Who am I to say your god isn't real but mine is?

Are you saying you believe Zeus is real? What about Thor? Cthulhu?

Also I just wanted to know what y'all thought about the conversation I had, but I guess it just became a flame your god is gay thread.

Asking questions is flaming?

 

[Tckr]

Idiots, if want to believe there is no god then do it. I'm not going to make a huge essay on why God exists.

 

[Devilsfan]

I really do wish there was a God, sounds like heaven is awesome. Only problem is that God is not real.

 

[Hayd3nrox]

Asking the question "Can your God create a mountain that he cannot lift? If he can, how does that make him almighty, If he can't, how does that make him almighty?"

The answer is Yes, He can create a mountain he cannot lift. Just as He came to earth as Jesus. You think He came as Jesus in the form of a baby knowing how to do everything and having infinite knowledge? No. He chose to limit himself to be fully human but at the same time being fully God. Just like someone with a degree in Psychology has to limit their knowledge of the workings of the human brain when they speak to someone about his/her problems. It's called self-limitation and that's what I believe. You can contradict and rationalize all you want. It's very easy. But that's because you go looking for trouble, you're going to find it.

 

[Tckr]

I really do wish there was a God, sounds like heaven is awesome. Only problem is that God is not real.

No real argument there, basically spam.

Asking the question "Can your God create a mountain that he cannot lift? If he can, how does that make him almighty, If he can't, how does that make him almighty?"

The answer is Yes, He can create a mountain he cannot lift. Just as He came to earth as Jesus. You think He came as Jesus in the form of a baby knowing how to do everything and having infinite knowledge? No. He chose to limit himself to be fully human but at the same time being fully God. Just like someone with a degree in Psychology has to limit their knowledge of the workings of the human brain when they speak to someone about his/her problems. It's called self-limitation and that's what I believe. You can contradict and rationalize all you want. It's very easy. But that's because you go looking for trouble, you're going to find it.

But God wasn't Jesus. Jesus came to Earth to spread God's teachings, he knew what to say.

 

[blazinfasstt]

No real argument there, basically spam.



But God wasn't Jesus. Jesus came to Earth to spread God's teachings, he knew what to say.

if god wasn't jesus, he was not omnipotent. some could say that Jesus was his son, but god is in everything.

i think her point was that he came to earth as jesus, not with all his powers and wisdom, but as a man with some extraordinary abilities.
if he has already limited his powers in one form before, what is stopping him from doing, or having done, it.

if god limited his powers in jesus, what is stopping him from limiting his powers in say the form of a baby that definitely could not lift a mountain.
therefore, god can not life a mountain and he can lift a mountain.