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    Can be although the hang up at the time (seemed like a lot of people were on board) was that xenforo hadn't been updated for some mod actions to properly be recorded which meant that modscore wasn't working properly. Now of course it's redundant as they're relying solely on an anonymous peer review system which I think is a huge mistake as it can lead to popularity contests without some objective data to back up people's opinions.
     
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    mix of the two would likely be best
     
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    Actually were keeping modscore and doing it in addition to peer review
     
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    Put me in coach, I know absolutely nothing about being a mod.
     
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    As it's something I voiced as alarming relying on just the reviews when I left, that's good to hear. The framework for what I proposed should be in SL somewhere if you're interested to run with it.
     
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    this this this. New members are infatuated with the sight of a "high ranking member" responding to their posts. put poeple who know things about their section and have them encourage discussion. put the staff in the community instead of trying to remove them from it and have them oversee from above.
     
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    Best decision in a while
     
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    Most organisations use feedback models. We'll keep modscores which are glorified post counts because that's the type of community we have. No one likes change. Ya'll so resistant to change jagex had to resurrect an old version of runescape.

    I'd like to move to a user feedback model where users can rate the staff interactions they have. So we would ideally have peer review and customer feedback.

    To illustrate why these are better: you can close out 1000 scam reports and get a 1/10 for competence and attitude from your peers and a 2/10 for satisfaction from the users whose reports you closed. But the mod logs are giving you 5 stars for a 1 star performance.
     
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    Did this nigga really just say y'all?
     
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    Agreed, exactly why combining the two would be the perfect system
     
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    Whoa buddy


    did this Mexican midget really just say nigga?
     
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    Both those facts are true.. how the hell did you know that?
     
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    This would fix the issue you previously brought up (Staff morale because some do more than others)

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    #CNP

    I'd really like to move everything out of staff hands that's not related to dispute resolution, account security and spam cleaning.

    Staff shouldn't be responsible for community stuff like programming sections. We have teams and groups which are not staff for those things. This allows users to enjoy themselves and focus on what they really want to do rather than staff drama.
     
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    The various team leaders we have already have some staff-perms in certain subsections. Think that's a step in the right direction.
     
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    Ever heard the phrase: everything for the state and by the state, nothing outside the state

    Lmk which ideology you think that's from and if you think it's conducive to an active market and community
     
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    people need staff perms to actually manage sections correctly
     
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    Ok why? So they can sticky threads?
     
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    So that the sections can be proactively moderated instead of reactively moderated. People who are active in the sections under stand them best and can come up with rules for the section and enforce them properly. They can decide they need to change something and just do it instead of asking someone else to do it. You are also empowering them and giving people an incentive to post in their favorite sections because they want mod and once they are mod they have an incentive to stick around and to do a good job so that they might get global. Staff gives a lot of incentives and keeps people around and has a lot of useful features that aren't really about moderating or just clearing spam
     
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