Spider99 and his worker scammed me

Hi @Pirate
personla of the website
Currently I work for @Rune_Dragon together with my team, my team is made up of only family and friend, when I speak of friend I mean older and responsible people, ...

this involves me and my workers, As @ rune_dragón says, he gave accounts to @ Spider99 .. accounts that were never granted to us and were still looted, which makes him and his team the main suspects

@Spider99Is it very difficult for you to admit that your workers were the ones who stole those accounts?

@Rune_Dragon has paid me and my team over $ 800 upfront with no problem, just been working with him for the months, my team and I are not going to risk losing reputation or payments ahead for simple miseries

@SPIDER99 he must be responsible and pay the loss that rune_dragon had, it is a great loss for the loss for him!

Do NOT post unless you are directly involved in report [YOU WILL BE INFRACTED OR TEMPORARILY BANNED]
Don't reply back, but to answer your question. @Rune_Dragon mentioned that both Spider's team and his team had the info for the accounts, though it may be apparent on who 'looted' the account, i personally can't do much without good proof. Indeed it is hard to prove who stole something under any circumstance, but this is honestly the risk people take when dealing with such services. Again please don't respond in the RAS section unless the report revolves around you

 

@SPIDER99 I can't hold you liable for all of the accounts because of the different hands that had access to the accounts, and the lack of proof which I know is hard to come by. Though I will need you to provide a refund for the account that you admitted that your team member may have hijacked, when this is done let me know. I have placed a temporary DNT until this is done to prevent any issues, once the one account that was looted/hijacked is repaid for the DNT will be lifted.

 

[SPIDER99]

@SPIDER99 I can't hold you liable for all of the accounts because of the different hands that had access to the accounts, and the lack of proof which I know is hard to come by. Though I will need you to provide a refund for the account that you admitted that your team member may have hijacked, when this is done let me know. I have placed a temporary DNT until this is done to prevent any issues, once the one account that was looted/hijacked is repaid for the DNT will be lifted.

I honestly had nothing to do with the acc One more time hit RuneDragon but I'll have to do the ACC is fine @Pirate

 

[SPIDER99]

@Pirate At the moment I am doing services for another person, when I finish I will have money to pay what you said is 1 acc to remove my DNT

 

[SPIDER99]

@Pirate I would like to ask for a second opinion. As you might know, English is not my first language and I use Google Translate to communicate.
Above in the screenshot you refer to, i said 'Ok if 1 acc was stolen by my worker i told you'. My friend has helped me with the translation isssues and it seems that you think I admit here that my worker caused this. At this moment, Rune Dragon told me that only me and Rune Dragon had acces to the account. Because of the business relationship we had build together, I believed him and told him that there was 1 worker that had acces to this specific account. He lated told that his own workers also acces these accounts. I think he is using this to try and get a free service from me. I was certain at this time that other accounts could not have possibly been affected, as these accounts were done by my other worker.

In this case I think there is no proof that me or my worker have caused this account to get stolen. I did not and do not admit that my worker stole the account. It is impossible for me to proof if it was the worker, Rune Dragon, or one of his workers. Why is it that only my worker gets blamed then? Only because I have some Language problems where I think I made a misscomunication?

I still believe it is not himself, but his workers. But there is no proof in this case. If you still think the same, I ask for an Admin to please review this case because we are very hard working to get him cheap accounts made and provide a good service. I think my having to repay just because of what I said in the screenshot. I did not mean to admit it here, only meant to say I was 100% sure that other accounts could not have been affected. This account I could not be sure about, but doesn't mean it was stolen by my worker. My workers are all reall life friends and family and we all do these services to earn food and live. We would not risk stealing a little bit of gold for all the business we get from servicing accounts. Thank you.

 

I understand what you mean @SPIDER99 but i would never made this report if i was not sure about who did it. At first i was sure about you or your team did it, but i had to make it 100% sure before i took the next step, so this is why i was confused and i had to investigate. After going through the account list there was an account which was never used by my workers, it was used only by your workers. It was a rested account with only 99 firemaking and the bank from 99 FM. It got bonded up (it got membership) and the bank of that account got cleaned. This makes my team 100% innocent.
Honestly, in the second i realised it was either you or your worker who did that i knew i wont be refunded shit, knowning your style and your situation. I had good profit from the accounts your workers did for me, that is enough for me and i wanted to work with you in the future, there is no reason for me to build things up. I had only good experiences with you and your team until the hijack.
Also i sent you the damaged account list on discord, please think about it. Which worker had access for those accounts?
Well, in the first place, i find it really strange that one worker had access for this many accounts. It might be 2 or more hijackers making fun about you (that would answer why 2 accounts got PW changed and 3 got simply cleaned with the same password they had) or it was you.
Honestly, everyone knows that proving who did the hijack is almost impossible in this case. I wouldn't even made this report if i couldn't decide who did it. I wouldn't accuse you if it was my team. Like i said when i realised it was someone from your team i accepted the loss and i knew i wont be refunded shit. I am not making this report to expect any free services or money from you.
I kindly ask you to stop accusing me or my team after this report in the future. I am accusing you and your team only in this report.
Like i said read that list and think about who did it. I don't ask you to admit anything, i just try to warn you.

 

[SPIDER99]

I understand what you mean @SPIDER99 but i would never made this report if i was not sure about who did it. At first i was sure about you or your team did it, but i had to make it 100% sure before i took the next step, so this is why i was confused and i had to investigate. After going through the account list there was an account which was never used by my workers, it was used only by your workers. It was a rested account with only 99 firemaking and the bank from 99 FM. It got bonded up (it got membership) and the bank of that account got cleaned. This makes my team 100% innocent.
Honestly, in the second i realised it was either you or your worker who did that i knew i wont be refunded shit, knowning your style and your situation. I had good profit from the accounts your workers did for me, that is enough for me and i wanted to work with you in the future, there is no reason for me to build things up. I had only good experiences with you and your team until the hijack.
Also i sent you the damaged account list on discord, please think about it. Which worker had access for those accounts?
Well, in the first place, i find it really strange that one worker had access for this many accounts. It might be 2 or more hijackers making fun about you (that would answer why 2 accounts got PW changed and 3 got simply cleaned with the same password they had) or it was you.
Honestly, everyone knows that proving who did the hijack is almost impossible in this case. I wouldn't even made this report if i couldn't decide who did it. I wouldn't accuse you if it was my team. Like i said when i realised it was someone from your team i accepted the loss and i knew i wont be refunded shit. I am not making this report to expect any free services or money from you.
I kindly ask you to stop accusing me or my team after this report in the future. I am accusing you and your team only in this report.
Like i said read that list and think about who did it. I don't ask you to admit anything, i just try to warn you.

Warn me? Brother, first you said there were 2 accounts and now there are more? So now you accuse multiple of my workers?
I think we have discussed enough. I get your point and I think you either make a mistake or try to blame me for what your own workers did.
But if the goal of the report was not to get a free service or money, and just to give me a warning, then I think you have done your part. Even though I think my workers are innocent, I will do my best to to improve the service I advice. I also want to advice you to change the password after a service has been completed, to prevent reports like these in the future. Sythe Admins advice to always set an e-mail to an account and to keep the e-mail when you sell it, because it will give you 100% security.

 

@SPIDER99 Yes, there was more. First they told me about 2 accounts and i told you about it, later they told me about 2 more and i found one more which was never used by my workers.
Look, i had to make this report as i got scammed. Luckily that 5th account said enough to me and i know who is innocent. Lol, if that one account was not damaged then i would lost all my hair by now thinking about who did what. But i know the truth.
I was rather mad than wanting anything to be refunded, i thought you will admit that your workers did that. But you decided to defend your team which is understandable, but you should open your eyes as they are playing with you.
I know there was a big mistake from my part when i haven't change the password, but in my first post i gave my explanation for that.
Also this fact doesn't means that i am free to get robbed.
I know a case like this one has a dead end. There is no strong evidence. Even with a full refund for the accounts i would still be in a big minus.
I ask one thing. Please never mention my name in the future, i wont mention yours either. I hope we can live together on the same forums and on the same Discord server in peace. I wish you a successful business.
Thank you @Pirate for your time, i think we can say this got resolved as this is a dead end.

 

@Rune_Dragon do you no longer want compensation for the one account that he already took the blame for?

 

@Rune_Dragon do you no longer want compensation for the one account that he already took the blame for?

$35 is nothing compared to what was lost here. I hope he/they had a good reason to steal from me.
I want the $35 to be donated to the community repayment fund.

 

@SPIDER99 you have my discord, please let me know when you can repay for the one account to our community refund. thanks.

 

[SPIDER99]

@SPIDER99 you have my discord, please let me know when you can repay for the one account to our community refund. thanks.

But I said that my main language is Spanish. And everything that translated did not make sense that you did not give much importance. Which RuneDragon workers had access to accounts and why I I am the injured? If my team did nothing and neither did my person

 

But I said that my main language is Spanish. And everything that translated did not make sense that you did not give much importance. Which RuneDragon workers had access to accounts and why I I am the injured? If my team did nothing and neither did my person

I understand that, but you said your self that.
- your worker did it
- you went to his house to confront him
- you fired him
You can't go back on this - it's a statement you made yourself, no one forced your hand. In all honesty the $35 repayment is nothing compared to what was lost here. Again, this is the final say on the report, you have my discord feel free to contact me when your ready for repayment.

 

[SPIDER99]

I understand that, but you said your self that.
- your worker did it
- you went to his house to confront him
- you fired him
You can't go back on this - it's a statement you made yourself, no one forced your hand. In all honesty the $35 repayment is nothing compared to what was lost here. Again, this is the final say on the report, you have my discord feel free to contact me when your ready for repayment.

Honestly crazy, RuneDragon I'm sorry that naughty (milk) brother but your workers stabbed you swallow milk. Ok @Pirate

 

@SPIDER99 do you have an idea on when you can fix this? it's been a week now

 

[SPIDER99]

@SPIDER99 do you have an idea on when you can fix this? it's been a week now

Brother good afternoon. Now I don't have money, all I earn is for food I live in Venezuela. And everything that happened with the RuneDragon acc had nothing to do with it. But soon I have the money paid FOR MY DNT TO BE DELETED

 

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@Rune_Dragon i need this person to add my disc

 

The user's debt of one account has been repaid which i'm holding currently ($35) - though other evidence was provided which provided details that Spider was scammed by someone from a private telegram group. Spider first claimed that the people training his accounts were his close family/ friends. Though this person that scammed Spider was recruited through a private Venezuela telegram group. Because of this Spider will be held liable for the other account that was hijacked. One account was hijacked for graceful marks, the other was hijacked for crystals, but due to the account being passed to someone other than what Rune Dragon was told (Spiders direct family/friends) he will be required to pay for the services done on the other account as they are now compromised. ($35)

 

debt has been paid in full dnt lifted, but the twc will remain for not telling his "customer/boss" that he would outsource order(s)

https://www.sythe.org/reports/390860/ If/when TWC is disputed