Smoking breaks should not be given.

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Smoking breaks should not be given.
  1. Unread #41 - Dec 27, 2009 at 9:10 PM
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    I did not say that they were equal. I said that they were "exactly as good as."

    It is your contention that there exists some magical objective criterion against which two people can be assessed to determine their performance at a job.
    Here I am saying two apple carts meet this standard, and are therefore to be considered indistinguishable under your standard.
    So, if you choose one over the other, are you not guilty of discrimination on the basis of some 'non-vital factor'?
    If so, does this not give me the right to take your money regardless of whether or not you buy apples from my cart, under your system?
     
  3. Unread #42 - Dec 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM
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    I think a synonym for "exactly as good as" would be equal.
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    I'm trying very hard to demonstrate that the proposed 'discrimination standard' is subjective and therefore arbitrary, making 'anti-discrimination legislation' a thinly veiled legalization of theft. The term 'equal' implies objective equivalence.

    Waste of time evidently.
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    I would start smoking.
     
  9. Unread #45 - Jan 1, 2010 at 12:52 PM
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    Its not subjective if its on paper but nice try I guess.
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    So if I write onto a piece of paper that "strawberry icecream is the best flavour," then that's no longer subjective?
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    If we want to kill ourselves, let us.


    Couldn't have said it better myself.
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    Wow, not literally.... Quit your smart comments.
     
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    I'm a little late on this one but here goes.

    Many factors will take place in there choice of employees. Think of it like this. If you were a restaurant owner and you needed waitresses/waiter, would you choose the unattractive male waiter, or the attractive young lady? Successful business owners would be looking at what would bring in the most revenue. Of course the attractive young lady would, thus the reality of her getting hired.
     
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    I'm a High Rise Glazier, I smoke while working......
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    But what if you smoked WHILE eating o_O

    Personally I don't smoke when in class or working. I'd rather get the work done first. Though, if you do not realize how horrible the side effects of a nicotine addiction is it would be hard to say that for yourself. You should be able to use your normal breaking time for whatever, which if it involves nicotine then so be it. You are given a specified time as a break so use it as you wish, rather it's eating, smoking, drinking (not advised) or getting fresh air.

    A nicotine addiction can affect you mentally and physically which could greatly reduce productivity in the work environment. If they want to smoke on their own break, then let them but don't use work hours to step out to smoke. Everyone should be treated equally, smokers should not have an advantage over others. (This is coming from a smoker)
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    You say smoking is a bad decision why? Because you personally don't smoke, i can't tell you how many times i've been pissed beyond belief and sat down for a smoke and it calmed me down.

    Prevented myself from doing something stupid because it's relaxing. People that smoke LIKE smoking, whether they say it's an addiction or not, if they didn't like doing it they wouldn't smoke. So who are you to say it's a bad decision. You might think it's bad to kill the first born that's not a male in China, but that's theres.

    It's the same thing with good and evil, i had a debate with my friend, who is he to say what's good or evil? You can say hitler was evil for offing 6 million jews, but HE thought it was good, HE liked what he was doing. It's all a matter of opinion again.

    So for you to say something is bad or shouldn't be really is unfair.

    It all comes down to morals. Maybe you were gay, you supported it. (I have nothing against homosexuality) But i said it was bad. Would you care? No because it's all personal opinion.

    I wrote all that just from your previous statement a page back about how you think it's bad. It can be healthier then you think.

    For the overall statement you made. I think that they are good, smokers should be given breaks, because when you're working in a place like TJ was working in, you get tired you get angry irritable, you need a cigarette. You're thinking "Well if you didn't smoke then all could be avoided" It's all personal preference.

    Smokers as myself do as we do. Breaks are given to relieve some stress or from getting tense in the work place, whether it be in a hot humid kitchen or a boxed in over worked cubicle.
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    You've got a point there, but I would say that their looks along with personality influences the business. That's like saying hiring hot fashion models is discrimination.

    Well said I like it. Thanks.

    So if you THINK its good and you LIKE it than it must be good? Wow you have some messed up beliefs. Serial killers enjoy what they do. Your point? Gf
     
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    Gf? The only thing you did was prove my point in sentence, come on i know you can find it :).

    You see, it's really a shame that your mind can't bend around the concept. Thanks for proving my point though really, you did it without even realizing it which makes it that much cuter.

    Thanks for being so understanding (or not understanding anything at all) :).

    "gf"
     
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    Again I apologize for the late interjection, but, I should have used the words "visually appealing."
     
  31. Unread #56 - Jan 2, 2010 at 11:52 AM
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    Lets not bring this thread to a little 13 year-old's flame central. There is no way in hell that just because you think something is right, that it is right, lol. So don't even try to go there IMO.

    visually appealing = good looks.
     
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    I think the worker has a right to smoke because its on there break as long as it doesnt affect the workplace or there ability to peform a task it should be allowed.
     
  35. Unread #58 - Jan 2, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    I agree,smoke on your regular break if you must.
     
  37. Unread #59 - Jan 2, 2010 at 11:58 AM
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    Thats not what were debating o_O

    Basically: Why should the smoker be able to get extra breaks where as the non smoker does not?
     
  39. Unread #60 - Jan 2, 2010 at 12:38 PM
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    Smoking breaks should not be given.

    you missed the whole point of this thread.

    Smokers should be able to smoke on their break, not be given an extra break to do it.
     
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