slipknot

[mr_abby]

Slipknot songs that are good- Before i forget, pulse of the maggots, the blister egists, eyeless, surfacing, wait and bleed, left behind, pychosocial, dead memories, snuff, vermillion pt 1 and 2 , all hope is gone, purity, sic and lastly heretic anthem. all of those songs shit all over any other music i have heard!

 

[mr_abby]

And all slipknot fans arent neceserially emo.

 

[deadzone]

Watch me.
Eric Clapton has no talent. As said before, you don't have to agree with me. This is the internet, and we are discussing music. You cannot say, "I'm right, slipknot sucks" without solely expressing your opinion, or being completely ignorant.

See, on my talent spectrum, slipknot is towards the right, and Eric Clapton is towards the left.
That's my opinion, and neither of us have any facts to back up our argument other than our own opinion.

"Lawls any noob can play "Before I forget" so dey suckkkk" is not proof of Slipknot being talentless. Just proof that you think your opinion is more valid than anyone else.

Your first statement doesn't have a leg to stand on at the very least do what I did and show me how you could ever possibly come to a logical explanation that Eric Clapton isn't a good musician.

For the next thing that is your opinion on who is you enjoy listening to, not who is more talented. you can come up with a logical standard as I have already said on what is and is not talent.

To the last statement, that is exactly what it means. If anyone can do what ever that person does with very little if any at all effort it isn't talent because talent is something that is unique that not many people can do. now if we go by Eric Clapton, can you honestly say you can play his songs? There certainly not the most difficult songs but nowhere near not difficult.

Why do you think most, if not all talent shows have at least 3 judges? If talent was purely based on factual proof, then a computer, or one person, could tell us who should win a talent show.

But no, that is not the case. We need a multiple of people to decide who has more talent. And, even after the show is over, you might not agree on who should have won the contest.

Like me, personally, I think it is dumb that most of the time, singers win "America's Got Talent." In my opinion, anyone can sing, and if you enjoy that style of music, you'll say the person has talent.

You answered your own question with or without knowing it, it's because the human race has many flaws and one is about choosing favorites, like you said you may not like who won, it's because those people do not take the time to listen or watch whatever talent which is why they get 3 judges etc. and they usually enjoy different things.

Alright. Then how about American Idol? In that show, they all sing. And yet, by the end of the show, the winner must have sang for the judges at least 5 or 6 times. If it was all factual evidence, then after hearing each person once, they would know a winner.

And, they wouldn't have America vote via online / texting. If it was obvious who the winner should be, then only one person would need to decide, and not all of America.

Because if talent is purely objective, then all of America would agree who should win the contest on who has the most talent in singing.

The judges do pick who has talent and who doesn't by hearing them once in the pre show things where they determine 30 or so, it would be boring if that was all it is so they prolong it and then at the end let America do the favorites game and pick who they like more not who is necessarily more talented.

Anyways I have already voiced my opinion, the facts are there if you bother to read them it is up to you. I'll let Tyson deal with this for now unless something happens to come up I feel inclined to post about.

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

I suppose i left the Soulja Boy thread to you Deadzone lol . I'll take a shot at expressing our opinions on this matter .

Alright. Then how about American Idol? In that show, they all sing. And yet, by the end of the show, the winner must have sang for the judges at least 5 or 6 times. If it was all factual evidence, then after hearing each person once, they would know a winner.

And, they wouldn't have America vote via online / texting. If it was obvious who the winner should be, then only one person would need to decide, and not all of America.

Because if talent is purely objective, then all of America would agree who should win the contest on who has the most talent in singing.

Okay...

American Idol is just all for show, they aren't really looking for talent. They are looking for ratings and money. The reason they let America choose who will win is because clearly, the people that vote for the winner are probably going to be buying the albums. It's like the fans of Slipknot, they don't know what talent is but they listen to Slipknot and buy their albums. People listen to American Idol and buy albums of the winner, regardless of whether the winner has talent or not, they just think the winner 'sounds good'.


Slipknot are like Soulja Boy, neither are talented but both make lots of money.

 

[EnlightenMe]

Honestly back on topic.

I am more of a softer rock person, Something I can relax too, once in a while like Viper said when I want to get pumped, Im into some screamo like.

four years strong
end well
a day to remember

Now some of those might not be considered "Screamo" but for me those are pretty strong songs. I like listening to them when I run, keeps me on step. Otherwise I don't like Slipknot really, my cousin tried to get me into them, just never caught my full intrest.

 

[deadzone]

There are a few ways I could approach this...

1) Funny thing, it seems as though everyone that is rich and famous in the music industry right now, you two feel like flaming as though you know more than everyone else.

Heh just took a look at this and wanted to point out, I play more instruments than probably anyone on this site, and have been playing most of them longer than most on this site, and have more talent at said instruments than anyone else. Therefore that would mean I do know more than everyone else. An we don't flame every successful person just the ones who have no talent.

I couldn't care less if a band is underground or not I will listen and like them if there good.

Here is a list of bands that are\were famous that I enjoy.
Aerosmith
Alice in chains
Anthrax
Bon Jovi
Boston
Bryan Adams
Bullet for my valentine
Children of bodom
Disturbed
Eric Clapton w\ w\o the yardbirds
Goo goo dolls
Greenday
Incubus
Iron maiden
Lynyrd Skynyrd
Matchbox twenty
Megadeth
Metallica
Mudvayne
Nirvana
oasis
ozzy w\ and w\o sabbath
Pantera
Pat Benetar
Pearl jam
Radiohead
Rage against the machine
Red hot chili peppers
REO Speedwagon
Saliva
Shinedown
Stone temple pilots
The smashing pumpkins
Tom Petty
Weezer
- That is just the bands on my lap top That were\are famous and successful. I could name off tons more.

I didn't want to think you two thought this way, but the way you two are arguing, it seems like you are the kind of people that love underground, and stuff that is not mainstream, which is not bad, but then you take it to the point where you flame others for liking the big bands, and you flame the bands once they become popular.

I'm not flaming people I am flaming the bands and voicing my opinion. If you don't like my opinion simply don't ask.

I am sure, that if Slipknot was not as popular as they are, you two would love them. It's the fact that everyone loves them, so you two want to be different, and pretend you know more about music, so you flame the popular ones.

Slipknot was no where near as popular as they are when they first came out. An I had got word of the band basically as soon as they came out. they are talentless trash.

As far as talent goes, I have seen no factual evidence from either of you that proves Eric Clapton is more talented than Slipknot. All I have seen are opinion based arguments. Deadzone's of "these songs are way more complicated" is not proof. That is solely his opinion that those songs are more complicated and thus more intricate, thus, making Eric Clapton magically more talented.

Ask any person who plays they will tell you the same, if Every person agrees that is absolute therefore my opinion is fact and will remain, prove that slipknot is talented.

Complicated songs != talent. Granted, you need talent to make and preform complicated riffs, but that does not mean that if one artist has a more complicated song than another, that they automatically have more talent.
Take "Smoke On the Water" for example. That song is very simple, yet, it is still a cool song that many like.

Slipknot has no emotion to there music either, all together they fail.They talk about shit that means nothing to there lives they just sell what ignorant people will buy.

Smoke on the water isn't exactly an easy song a couple riffs in the song are but thats it. and if you're trying to compare Deep purple to slipknot you're a joke with songs like soldier of fortune, smoke on the water etc. they have much more talent and emotion and time put into there songs than slipknot. Don't even attempt to compare the 2.

I could easily pick up a guitar, write and play a very complicated made up song, that maybe no one else could do. Now, does that mean I have talent? No. The song could sound like shit, but hey, if it is complicated, then it must mean I have talent, doesn't it? (According to your logic).

Wrong Playing something complicated does not mean it has talent if you do not play the instrument correctly.

3) Are you saying that all of America enjoys talentless music? That's a pretty big statement to say that billions of people like and listen to shitty talentless music.
You're saying record labels like Universal Music and Roadrunner sign people that have no talent? "Fuck yes! You are the least talented band to come in here yet! Take our money, and we'll sponsor someone that is talentless! Fuck, if we wanted talent, we would go to the Sythe forums and consult deadzone and Tyson, because they know talent. We don't!"

RRR and UR have some of my favorite bands signed to them, but the fact is they sign bands that will sell records that they can exploit for there own gain just as all companies do.

Also don't get so full of you're favorite little band there isn't "billions" of people who listen to them. I will say that the majority of the people who listen to them listen because other people in there "group" or people they look up to because they think it makes them cool. An I would take a bet that you're one of these people which is why you feel the need to defend the band so much without posting significant evidence to prove that they have talent.

 

[xx mdv xx]

I really don't understand why people hate Slipknot with a passion. Is it because of their masks, nine members in one band, or you guys think you're cool because you only listen to those underground death metal bands that no one has ever heard of and any mainstream band is automatic shit?

 

[deadzone]

I really don't understand why people hate Slipknot with a passion. Is it because of their masks, nine members in one band, or you guys think you're cool because you only listen to those underground death metal bands that no one has ever heard of and any mainstream band is automatic shit?

We already answered this the band is completely talentless minus the drummer. They stole 90% of there material. The band is all together a load of shit.

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

I really don't understand why people hate Slipknot with a passion. Is it because of their masks, nine members in one band, or you guys think you're cool because you only listen to those underground death metal bands that no one has ever heard of and any mainstream band is automatic shit?

I don't listen to death metal lol. I think bands with no talent are shit, as you can see thats the whole argument here. When i look at talent i look at lyrics not just instrumentals as well, and Slipknot has neither.

 

[mr_abby]

And to think i respected you before tyson.

some slipknot members are extreamly talented, Joey is one of the best drummers in the world and Corey can go from soft rock to screamo ( Vermillion to Surfacing).

 

[Datsyuk4242]

some slipknot members are extreamly talented, Joey is one of the best drummers in the world ).

HAHA, that made me lol.

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

And to think i respected you before tyson.

some slipknot members are extreamly talented, Joey is one of the best drummers in the world and Corey can go from soft rock to screamo ( Vermillion to Surfacing).

If you lost respect for me over my opinion on a band that doesn't really affect anyone then i don't think i could care less whether you respected me or not.

We have stated before that the drummer has some talent but hes not 'one of the best in the world'. I'm assuming Corey is the vocalist? Dude his voice sucks, its like he sings constipated.

 

[xx mdv xx]

We already answered this the band is completely talentless minus the drummer. They stole 90% of there material. The band is all together a load of shit.

Who did the steal it from? The only thing they stole was the mask idea from Mushroomhead, but that has nothing to do with talent. To be honest in my opinion the band instrumentally may have little talent, but the vocals are great and so are the lyrics, you guys are just hating on Slipknot because you have nothing better to do.

 

[deadzone]

If you lost respect for me over my opinion on a band that doesn't really affect anyone then i don't think i could care less whether you respected me or not.

We have stated before that the drummer has some talent but hes not 'one of the best in the world'. I'm assuming Corey is the vocalist? Dude his voice sucks, its like he sings constipated.

+1

Who did the steal it from? The only thing they stole was the mask idea from Mushroomhead, but that has nothing to do with talent. To be honest in my opinion the band instrumentally may have little talent, but the vocals are great and so are the lyrics, you guys are just hating on Slipknot because you have nothing better to do.

They stole a bit of there instrumentals from mushroomhead as well and apparently some of pantera's as well, they just played them shitty. The vocals aren't that good and there lyrics are meaningless.

 

[neschn]

Their old stuff MFKR til Iowa was amazing! I still listen to that stuff, I mostly like their stuff when they were still underground and local like on MFKR. Now they just suck, horribly.

 

[neschn]

Joey is one of the best drummers in the world

Sorry for the double post but I beg to differ with this one.

Joey is very good at the style of music that he plays. Otherwise except for metal Joey isn't a very good drummer, he can't really play a lot of different styles of music but metal. I still really enjoy his drumming but he is only basically good for metal. I started out as a metal drummer but as time went on I have learned so many styles of drumming, Joey has just stuck with one and is really good at it. I am about medium in most of the styles that a play because I don't practice the same style everytime I play.

 

[2112]

Slipknot is good but doesn't make you metal you need to hear some real heavy shit

 

[Revenge-ful]

Slipknot fails irl.

 

[2112]

You fail irl slipknot is 9 guys they could kick your ass

 

[Im Expired]

I like slipknot but I only like there old stuff not the new stuff

Top 2 fav songs

Wait and bleed
Before I forget.