slipknot

[mr_abby]

Tell me your thoughts on this band...

 

[333]

tunes analysis section dude.

 

[MegaMatt]

Wrong section, and they suck.

 

[Ftw]

wrong section, and slipknot isnt that bad ;p

 

[deadzone]

Horrid band, there has already been like 100 threads on this subject and all were in favor of them sucking.

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

Like Deadzone said.

1. Slipknot sucks
2. Theres at least one thread made each month about slipknot
3. They never were good, they never will be
4. Most people here dislike them
5. They are posers and fakes

 

[Ielis 93]

I'm not a huge fan but I wouldn't go as far to say they suck, they have a few good songs and I even got a free ticket to their Sydney show back in October, they are more entertainers than musicians, but overall it was a rather fun experience.

 

[xx mdv xx]

I think they're awesome. Their new album isn't that great, but their older songs are awesome, such as: The Blister Exists, (sic), Opium of the People, Purity, Surfacing. The only new songs I like are Sulfur, Child of Burning Time, and All Hope is Gone.

 

[natinsatan]

their good, you guys are just 2 depreesed

 

[Ganzta-Freak]

They have made a few good songs; "wait and bleed" for example.
But, really, I'm not into that kind of music. They are mostly known for the masks.

 

[deadzone]

I personally love them. When I am in the mood for getting pumped up, or I am full of energy, I love listening to them.

Slipknot is a bit less angry then the following bands, but if you like Slipknot, I would recommend these:

• Soilwork
• From Autumn to Ashes
• Parkway Drive
• I Killed the Prom Queen
• The Dillinger Escape Plan - (an alright band, I'm not a huge fan)

And as a final message to everyone that thinks Slipknot sucks, read this.
The statement that any artist or band sucks, is purely opinion. It might be an opinion shared by a few people, but none the less, an opinion. Music taste is purely subjective. No one has better taste in music than anyone else. What you might love, I might hate, and vice versa.

Saying anyone or anything is "good" or "bad" or full of talent, or talentless is opinion.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and one man's trash is another man's treasure both hold true.

Talent is not subjective as we already went over this. It can be determined quite easily with very little effort.

 

[Eluveitie]

Not my favorite band but they have some good songs.
I really like Joey Jordison though (their drummer), he's so damn good.

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

Talent is not subjective as we already went over this. It can be determined quite easily with very little effort.

Agreed.

We already discussed this in the last Slipknot thread. Talent is not an opinion, talent is easily defined and easily proved.

Most beginners can play Slipknot songs, therefore they aren't difficult which means their not talented if they are just making basic shit.

 

[Eluveitie]

^Are you saying that Joey Jordison isn't talented?

 

[deadzone]

^Are you saying that Joey Jordison isn't talented?

If you seen the other thread you would understand what he is saying, he isn't referring to The drummer. But every single other person in the band is complete garbage.

 

[dark idiot]

Wrong section, my fav song is wait and bleed, decent band overall

 

[deadzone]

First and foremost, if you (anyone) don't have an interest in slipknot other than to flame them, then don't bother even opening a thread with the title "Slipknot."

I am sorry but that is just ignorant. He wanted to know our thoughts about the band, so we felt obligated you give him our thoughts.

@ deadzone: I could very well say that Eric Clapton has no talent on the guitar. I can justify this statement with the proof that I like listening to people with talent, and I don't like listening to him, therefore, he has no talent.
That statement is true using anyone's logic that says that slipknot sucks because they are talentless.

You couldn't say Eric Clapton has no talent, songs such as Layla and tears in heaven are beyond a amateurs level unlike slipknot.

We have already went over this before.

To find talent:
-------------
You take the average of every guitarist you take the minimum of skill, that is no talent or very little at best, and then do the same with the highest end of spectrum.

minimum---------average----------maximum
[^just learning] [^Decent] [^ some of the best]

Slipknot would be at average or perhaps a little below. As I said before you can find a scientific way to determine talent.

Now, no one has to agree with me that Eric Clapton sucks, because it is my opinion. My opinion holds no more water than yours deadzone.

As stated above. Eric Clapton would be close to the maximum end of the spectrum therefore your little theory does not hold any water.

@ Tyson: I could sing just like I killed the Prom Queen, Suicide Silence, 36 Crazy Fists, Cannibal Corpse, and many others. Using your same logic, if me, an untrained 17 year old can sing and scream like them, they must all be talentless as well.

Even though this isn't directed toward me I feel obligated to give my opinion. I don't think most death metal\grindcore\ and what ever other genres that scream are good singers. Some of the bands can sing well that may be true but generally don't just because mainly it wouldn't go with the song.

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

Watch me.
Eric Clapton has no talent. As said before, you don't have to agree with me. This is the internet, and we are discussing music. You cannot say, "I'm right, slipknot sucks" without solely expressing your opinion, or being completely ignorant.

See, on my talent spectrum, slipknot is towards the right, and Eric Clapton is towards the left.
That's my opinion, and neither of us have any facts to back up our argument other than our own opinion.

"Lawls any noob can play "Before I forget" so dey suckkkk" is not proof of Slipknot being talentless. Just proof that you think your opinion is more valid than anyone else.

Talent is not an opinion though.

You can say that in your opinion, Eric Clapton sucks and everyone will go "okay, well thats your opinion". But when it comes to talent, it is not an opinion. Talent can be proved. How can you prove Slipknot has talent? What do they do thats so talented and better than anyone else?

 

[†Tysonâ€Â]

That's just the thing though. Talent is subjective. Granted, many might agree that one band is more talented than another, but it is still subjective.

Why do you think most, if not all talent shows have at least 3 judges? If talent was purely based on factual proof, then a computer, or one person, could tell us who should win a talent show.

But no, that is not the case. We need a multiple of people to decide who has more talent. And, even after the show is over, you might not agree on who should have won the contest.

Like me, personally, I think it is dumb that most of the time, singers win "America's Got Talent." In my opinion, anyone can sing, and if you enjoy that style of music, you'll say the person has talent.

Talent is fact when compared at the same level. Like you put up 2 guitarists against each other, it'll be easy to see who has more talent.

Those talent shows are like putting up a drummer against a guitarist, so you can't really compare them accurately. Thats why they have a number of judges to decide.

 

[Louis]

I actually didn't hear much of them before psychosocial, apart from being associated with emos a lot.

Had a listen over just about all their songs now and I can say I genuinely like them.