Scammers never banned.

[SuF]

No that's not what this thread is about, people have just been transforming it to that. There are a few things that could help out but they aren't in place. Yeah people can make new sythe accounts but they're not going to make new paypal accounts and register them to new bank accounts every day. Correct me if I'm wrong?

Oh, really?

I filed a report 2 months ago about a guy that scammed me. I provided MSN pictures, not just chatlogs, but the pictures. He even flat out said "the accounts mine mofo". What more can I possible give?

Moderator said: "I don't ban people off MSN conversations about admitted scammings. Locked."


Topic: http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=752087

How do you ever expect us to get rid of scammers if they ALWAYS get off without a mark.

Wait. That seems a lot like what I said.

So, are you suggesting we make a sticky and have people submit scammer's paypal addresses with proof they scammed so people can check that before they trade?

 

[R33l2r3al]

3. Yes more mods does equal more reports answered because as stated above the mods have requirements they have to meet. And yes it would decrease the number of scams. If this guy had gotten banned before he scammed someone else that would have been one less scam. If I got banned with my posts and time put into this it would take a long while to get my rep back up (not that I have much as it is). And lastly yes I understand not every report is legit, it was just my way of saying get up and read the reports. I'd rather say ban people than type out a whole paragraph of nonsense. Don't read too much into crap.

4.The people that SHOULD encourage people to read reports are sythe and other mods. I'm not forced to go to school either? But if I didn't I would be kicked out of the house. Does any of this make sense to you? Do yall have to keep reading what I put and find some invisible error in it? "W3ll uhh were n0t ur par3ntz durrrrr" No duh.
Okay lets say I did use an MM. He still would have gotten the money back. Your point? BTW this report is from some guy that was supposed to be raising my mining level on my skiller. You don't use MMs for services.. lol.

If changing IPs deals with a proxy then you can ban proxys. Can also have a list of paypal emails not to deal with. But ya don't. That'd help a lot too.

1. Okay, again you're not listening. We do not have to do scammer OR spammer reports in order to meet that quota. Reports are not even close to the only way to meet the quota and many mods do so without doing any of them.

2. Perhaps you need to think about what you say before you say it? We're going to "read into it" because your argument is flawed. There is NOTHING that could have prevented you from using an MM for that kind of trade. Give the MM the money and account details (enough to recover). MM changes info and gives to other user to skill. When the service is done, he changes the information back, gives you the account and the trainer the money. Do not sit here and tell me you don't use MM's for that kind of a trade. It's utter bull.

3. Changing your IP has nothing to do with a proxy. You can EASILY change your IP and not use a proxy. Using a proxy hides your IP, not changes it.

It isn't their job to do them, though maybe if they were paid, it would be different.

Oh please do so. I would love for you to fund this project

 

[PinSeller007]

1)Im sexy

2)Mod are doing a fine job, next time show more proof and follow the report a scammer format & you will get a reply back quicker

 

[Pkpkpk]

So, are you suggesting we make a sticky and have people submit scammer's paypal addresses with proof they scammed so people can check that before they trade?

Precisely.

2. Perhaps you need to think about what you say before you say it? We're going to "read into it" because your argument is flawed. There is NOTHING that could have prevented you from using an MM for that kind of trade. Give the MM the money and account details (enough to recover). MM changes info and gives to other user to skill. When the service is done, he changes the information back, gives you the account and the trainer the money. Do not sit here and tell me you don't use MM's for that kind of a trade. It's utter bull.

Look bud. The deal was he was going to train my accounts skills (for free). How does a MM do anything in that trade? You don't even know what the trade was but your acting like you do. Next time educate yourself first.

 

[Master.Programmer]

Precisely.



Look bud. The deal was he was going to train my accounts skills (for free). How does a MM do anything in that trade? You don't even know what the trade was but your acting like you do. Next time educate yourself first.

Not everyone would would remember or read to post the PayPal of the scammer. Remember that moderators are volunteers, they do not even have to do them at all.

 

[FaTaL Sh0t X]

What is that supposed to me you insignificant moron?

The fact that you say I think or am a kid made me giggle a little bit inside.

Out of everything I have posted, where do you get evidence to draw the assumptions that I am a kid.

And if these moderators have lives, jobs, work, rent, why are they even moderators? Seems to me they have to much stuff to do, so lets give all the positions to "Kids".

Cuul shat mang.

I thought you were over-exaggerating it until I looked in the section and saw reports unanswered from 3 months ago.

And people wonder why Sythe is home for the scammers..

And mods are pretty lazy lol. You see them spending their time in the spam forum making shitty jokes rather than doing reports/regulating their sections.

And.. Spam reports are nothing compared to scammer reports, so don't reply saying you do reports all the time.

Another thing to mods: We understand you don't have to do that shit, but would it kill you to help out more?

 

[Skele]

I thought you were over-exaggerating it until I looked in the section and saw reports unanswered from 3 months ago.

And people wonder why Sythe is home for the scammers..

And mods are pretty lazy lol. You see them spending their time in the spam forum making shitty jokes rather than doing reports/regulating their sections.

Another thing to mods: We understand you don't have to do that shit, but would it kill you to help out more?

Report a Scammer Archive Page 1 of 848

Unless you have any suggestions there's not point posting. A lazy mod is still better than a complaining user giving no suggestions.

 

[Master.Programmer]

Report a Scammer Archive Page 1 of 848

Unless you have any suggestions there's not point posting. A lazy mod is still better than a complaining user giving no suggestions.

You guys do good, but maybe a commission or reward for those who massively answer reports.

If you all just post correct proof, showing everything and the clear scam, your report will be answered soon.

 

[FaTaL Sh0t X]

Report a Scammer Archive Page 1 of 848

Unless you have any suggestions there's not point posting. A lazy mod is still better than a complaining user giving no suggestions.

This is feedback not suggestions..

And Skele, I'm not referring to you at all. You do your shit and that's good but there are mods who don't do anything whatsoever.

 

[SuF]

This is feedback not suggestions.. Seriously?

And Skele, I'm not referring to you at all. You do your shit and that's good but there are mods who don't do anything whatsoever.

You have absolutely no idea. If the mods did nothing, they would not be mods. Period. If your feedback is just flaming mods for "not doing enough", you just need to shut up since you know nothing at all and if you don't have a suggestion to help the problem you see you are merely wasting everyone's time by complaining about something you do not even have any knowledge about.

 

[Peace.Love.Programming]

Fuck that shit... sythe's staff put more useless effort into their website than any I have ever seen. Each one is so obsessed with their bit of power that they make this website run incredibly smoothly.

 

[Darkgroove]

1.
"The only valid proof for an MSN conversation is a screenshot of the ACTUAL CONVERSATION WINDOW." Check
"If you have screenshots, POST THEM!" Check
"DO NOT CHOP OFF THE SIDES OF YOUR MSN SCREENSHOTS!! " Check
"Staff will not download your files. Please upload them and avoid using Rapid Share or any other similar places." Check
"Use an INSTANT MESSENGER for the trade" Check
"Show the MSN address. " Check
"Avoid videos where possible, take screen-shots instead." Check
Looks like I followed the rules.

Really? Where are the screenshots of the trade?

2. "Scamming = stealing not mudering."
In life, whats the worst crime? Murder
On the forums what is the worst crime? Scamming
You take things MUCH too literal.

Or I take scamming as stealing because that's what it is =_=" I look at how it is, and I still believe you have created some horrible analogies in this thread.

3. You only defend yourself when your offended. Are you offended? If so I'm truly sorry for you.

You defend yourself when someone pulls into question your ability to do something. You've questioned the way I do scammer reports, I have defended myself. Thus you have pulled me out of RaS to answer this horrible thread you have created.

4. Possibility it was edited > Possibility it wasnt is what your saying. What your saying is pictures of the chat log aren't valid evidence. That makes me laugh because the rules for posting reports says pictures>video.

Yeah pictures are better than videos. I still look at videos though. The reason is that videos get produced with horrible quality, and you can't see certain important details.

Since your so sure that murder= scamming. Murder requires 100% beyond reasonable doubt to convict the suspect. There is doubt, and btw there isn't enough evidence for a conviction. So he's not banned.

5. IP ban them.

Only admins can IP ban, and it will take far too long to put ALL the scammer that are banned through. Plus IP addresses can always be changed. What does this have to do with your thread though?

6. So... if screenshots = maybe hack or fake, what do you recommend? Please share that with me!

Screenshots of a trade clearly showing a scam (the entire conversation, not a single picture). Provide that and I'll ban him.

8. You sound like a blind man guiding me to safety. Don't try and assume that I'd do a bad job. Just makes you sound dumb tbh.

Judging by this thread, it's safe to assume you'd ban people with very little amounts of proof, creating large amounts of disputes and creating more work for the moderators that handle these things.

Therefore its safe to assume you'd do a bad job.

9. Right because there isn't a good number of users to choose from?

This has what to do with anything?

10. ' How will getting more mods help them get banned?' Someone said earlier that there are many reports and that is why it takes time to get through them. This makes complete sense. And let me break it down for you AGAIN. More mods = more scam reports read = people banned = less scams in the future. Crazy, right?

Yes but again I'll reiterate that this is about the moderators not banning scammers even though you think adequate proof is provided. If these moderators are kept to the standards of RaS your thread would still not be considered enough for a ban.

11. I'm encouraged to do good in school, and if I don't, there are consequences. Are there consequences on here? Why would someone want to spend their time reading reports if there is nothing in for them and if they don't have to. Heck I'd love to live a life of all fun and no work. Your point?

My point is that you have no point.

No my point is that if I'm doing badly at school, I'm not going to spend hours doing scammer reports. I'm going to concentrate on school. This is exactly what happened last November with me, my final exams came up and I was getting the lowest moderator logs because I was studying rather than actually moderating.

My point is that you have proved my point with the above.

 

[Darkgroove]

3. Yes more mods does equal more reports answered because as stated above the mods have requirements they have to meet. And yes it would decrease the number of scams. If this guy had gotten banned before he scammed someone else that would have been one less scam. If I got banned with my posts and time put into this it would take a long while to get my rep back up (not that I have much as it is). And lastly yes I understand not every report is legit, it was just my way of saying get up and read the reports. I'd rather say ban people than type out a whole paragraph of nonsense.

No it doesn't read my last response for more info.

Don't read too much into crap.

We don't, that's why your report wasn't successful

4.The people that SHOULD encourage people to read reports are sythe and other mods. I'm not forced to go to school either? But if I didn't I would be kicked out of the house. Does any of this make sense to you? Do yall have to keep reading what I put and find some invisible error in it? "W3ll uhh were n0t ur par3ntz durrrrr" No duh.
Okay lets say I did use an MM. He still would have gotten the money back. Your point? BTW this report is from some guy that was supposed to be raising my mining level on my skiller. You don't use MMs for services.. lol.

And you can contact paypal with a claim or you could have made him send a note with the payment so that when paypal review it they will see that he's trying to scam you and refuse his claim.

You could have prevented this, but you didn't. Do not blame it on us,

So whose job is it? Moderator: moderate. Moderate the forums = get rid of scammers, spammers, keep forum active etc. Its pretty much part of the definition.

Moderate the forums = editing/locking/moving/etc. threads. If a moderator DECIDES to do scam reports, he will review the report and decide whether enough proof is shown. Not just agree with you because you can post 4 pages in the feedback section of that same thing worded differently each time.

If changing IPs deals with a proxy then you can ban proxys. Can also have a list of paypal emails not to deal with. But ya don't. That'd help a lot too.

It doesn't just deal with a proxy and this is where you need to stop talking about things you don't understand. Proxy's hide your IP, but your IP can be changed.

 

[Darkgroove]

No that's not what this thread is about, people have just been transforming it to that. There are a few things that could help out but they aren't in place. Yeah people can make new sythe accounts but they're not going to make new paypal accounts and register them to new bank accounts every day. Correct me if I'm wrong?

The thread is about scammers not being banned when adequate proof is provided.

The example you have provided shows inadequate proof, making your whole arguement flawed. So you've changed the subject to getting more moderators to cover the work that the current moderators aren't doing, which wouldn't make your report be accepted either btw.

Dude, you have no idea what you're talking about so just qwerty.

Good response.

 

[Darkgroove]

Look bud. The deal was he was going to train my accounts skills (for free). How does a MM do anything in that trade? You don't even know what the trade was but your acting like you do. Next time educate yourself first.

So how do you deal with this? How about not provide a leecher with no proven track record access to your account? If it wasn't a leecher, use that awesome search function in the RaS section to search for his name/email to see how many scammer reports are out against him.

Not that difficult.

 

[Darkgroove]

You have absolutely no idea. If the mods did nothing, they would not be mods. Period. If your feedback is just flaming mods for "not doing enough", you just need to shut up since you know nothing at all and if you don't have a suggestion to help the problem you see you are merely wasting everyone's time by complaining about something you do not even have any knowledge about.

^ This. Once again, we're being forced to repeat things we have already stated. Moderators need a certain amount of mod logs to remain as mods. If they didn't do shit they wouldn't be mods, the admins would have demoted them long ago.

 

[Syed]

Now since this thread has become what Finn would call a "Cesspool", We're going to be locking it. There is no point whatsoever in continuing this discussion.

Feedback acknowledged.