Scam report: Negg

[Doritoes]

Scammer's profile link: Negg

Amount scammed: Doritoes (raven_40 and watercrow Neopets account)

Discord ID + Unique Discord ID: trucha1#9194

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Proof that it's their Discord: I have screenshots listed in this topic that show they were the one with this account and they themselves admitted to being the owner in their own screenshots

How they scammed:



Bruteforced into a personal account (bought it 6 months ago and has become my personal account) and has sold 3/4 pets. When confronted, they offered a lesser account in exchange and wouldn't even give the one pet they didn't sell back. I have screenshots of them threatening to find my IP address and hack all my accounts as well. The account I showed proof of ownership to has been frozen now. Showing they indeed followed through on their threat of freezing all my bought/personal accounts

 

[Negg]

Are you sure it's your personal account? You bought that account some time ago and that account is from my friend. He has the access to the original e-mail and he request a ticket for recover the account that you steal.
I can't put images here but maybe you know about this conversation between you and me:


-TRUCHA1 = ME
- MACY = SHE (DORITOES)

1. Macy — Yesterday at 8:47 PM
   Yes it's very active and live. I really don't know what to do at this point. If we split your profit from it I guess that would make it right. I intended on selling/giving it to friends at any rate
2. [8:48 PM]
   Otherwise I'm going to have to call it out which fucking sucks and I hate people that do that shit.
3. trucha1 — Yesterday at 8:48 PM
   Do you speak spanish?
4. Macy — Yesterday at 8:48 PM
   No sorry
5. trucha1 — Yesterday at 8:48 PM
   Give me a second
6. Macy — Yesterday at 8:48 PM
   Okay
7. trucha1 — Yesterday at 8:50 PM
   I search the IP of the owner in the leaked list and she was from Chile
8. [8:50 PM]
   she speak spanish
9. [8:50 PM]
   190.215.103.225
10. Macy — Yesterday at 8:50 PM
    Yes. I'm not the og owner. But that was my active account
11. [8:50 PM]
    I've had it for months now
12. trucha1 — Yesterday at 8:50 PM
    So you steal it? hahah
13. Macy — Yesterday at 8:51 PM
    Yes. But it was inactive since 2014 I believe
14. [8:51 PM]
    Much better than 2022 activity...

I have a few more screenshots and preparing my defense it is needed. I have a lot more screenshots and I'm preparing my defense. I'm here since 2018 and I hadn't any problem with nobody.
I have screenshot of the reply from TNT giving back the account to my friend.

She stole/bought a stolen account, and the owner of the original e-mail (my friend) request the account back and now she is angry. That's the resume.


I can send all the screenshots to any moderator or admin, I even offered a account for free for let me.


I even gave him an account yesterday with 2UCs and +280 avys for free so he would leave me alone with the condition of ending this problem. She accepted, everything ended well and the next day she wrote me again claiming the pet that is inside the account. Of course I have screenshots of everything.


This is the moment when she recieved the account I gave her for free for let me in peace all was OK she said:

1. Macy — Yesterday at 10:20 PM
   What location did you use for the account? I'm sorry to ruin your day with this shit. I'm just pissed off because I'm struggling irl and really was relying on selling those pets
2. trucha1 — Yesterday at 10:22 PM
   Last location was Spain
3. Macy — Yesterday at 10:22 PM
   Okay ty
4. trucha1 — Yesterday at 10:23 PM
   Don't worry, the bad thing is that all this fucked me directly hahaha. Just be careful with the accounts you buy, make sure they are 100% legit or secure (completely abandoned) otherwise this shit can happen
5. [10:23 PM]
   Have a nice day Macy. All good between us

Now she has the account I gave her for free and want my friend accounts only because she stoled it some time ago. You don't even have the original email for the account.

 

[Doritoes]

One second while I get your screenshots prepared I offered you the account back for my pet. You refused and said your "seller" won't budge. One second, your threatening screenshots are being uploaded now

 

[Doritoes]

Okay so sythe doesn't let me do imgur uploads? Here's some of his golden reponses:

1. trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:11 PM
   They don't even have a Sythe account. They pass me any accounts or UCs for put in my thread and I get a percent of the sells. if they had an account here I would not sell it in my thread.
2. [3:12 PM]
   But obviously I can't reveal their phone number
3. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:14 PM
   I'm confused. So you only do business via phonecalls?
4. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:14 PM
   Lol nopee
5. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:14 PM
   So then how do you talk to them typically?
6. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:14 PM
   They send me the accounts info and pets names by whatsapp
7. [3:15 PM]
   And I put them in my thread
8. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:15 PM
   Can you give them my info to talk to me on discord then? Otherwise I'm just going to the boards
9. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:16 PM
   I can't do that Macy, they aren't public persons. They haven't any contact with this. The only contact I have with they is by whatsapp chat in my phone
10. 
    
    Macy — Yesterday at 3:18 PM
    Not to mention, the account was clearly active. The pets were still in the lodge.

So this is proof they have a "seller" that hacks active accounts and they don't care to give me the contact info.

1. Well how much did you make off the account? I'll accept and account of equal or value close to.
2. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:26 PM
   I got 57$ for selling 3 pets
3. [3:27 PM]
   was my % of the selling
4. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:31 PM
   So 250 total then? Water under the bridge if I can get an account/pet worth around 250.
5. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:32 PM
   I am the one who is most careful with all this and in the end I am the one who has the problems and I have to pay out of pocket.
6. [3:32 PM]
   I only got 57$ of that
7. [3:32 PM]
   Look I'm trying to help you but I can't afford an 250$ account for free. I have to pay part of my bills with this
8. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:33 PM
   Yes you did. But the total was 250. It's only fair to get back what I lost or close to. I don't think I'm being unreasonable

Me offering to get half what they made back.

1. I want to help you, Macy, but you understand my situation too.
2. [3:34 PM]
   Look, considering that I'm going to have to pay for it out of pocket, I can offer you an account with some stamp avys
3. [3:34 PM]
   and I think it has some Nps it stamps in the SDB
4. [3:34 PM]
   that account price is 150$
5. [3:37 PM]
   I am very sorry for this situation but you know very well that working with accounts on the list can lead to these problems, and here I am going to lose money because of this problem. Just take that check and let's drop this, because I also have to go out and do the shopping for dinner soon.
6. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:37 PM
   Not interested unfortunately. Selling entire accounts doesn't interest me. A. They're hard sells and b. Who's to stop it from being reclaimed again?
7. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:38 PM
   That's a true, it could be reclaimed again but its a risk with all this accounts
8. [3:38 PM]
   But it has been mine for years
9. [3:38 PM]
   and I never had any message from anybody saying was his account
10. 
    
    Macy — Yesterday at 3:39 PM
    Well same with my account but here we are. (edited)

Them offering me an account which I say a solid no to.

1. 
   
2. before I give you the last offer
3. [3:49 PM]
   I forget do something
4. [3:49 PM]
   do you have any proof
5. [3:50 PM]
   that you bought that acc?
6. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:50 PM
   Yeah
7. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:50 PM
   Can you send it pls?
8. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 3:50 PM
   When I'm home. Why? I can even show you my sale list where I listed them for sale weeks/months ago
9. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:51 PM
   Well because I dont really know if you bought that account or not, or you only know that pets or something hahah
10. [3:51 PM]
    I wanna be sure
11. 
    
    Macy — Yesterday at 3:52 PM
    I mean, how else would I know? I can even give you the old email I used on the account before it was changed
12. 
    
    trucha1 — Yesterday at 3:53 PM
    a couple person who contacted me here knowed the names of the pets
13. [3:53 PM]
    Just if you are a avatar fan you can know the names of the pets and search the account (edited)
14. [3:53 PM]

Them asking for the side account to later blackmail me with.

1. trucha1 — Yesterday at 4:04 PM
   Okay macy it's ok, this is my last proposal and I also have to go fast to do my shopping
2. [4:05 PM]
   2003 Neopets Account +285 avy (old and retired inclued) UC MSPP format xxx_xxxx UC Grey Wocky format xxxx_xxxx Unchecked sdb/closet Trophies: +30 Access to Lab Price 200-215$ (room to haggle to 190$)

I already express how I want an account of equal value of the sold pets. SOLD pets, not the pet currently on the account.

1. Macy — Yesterday at 6:21 PM
   Hey, can i get Katara back? Just remembered she wasn't sold yet and then I'll be happy. I really only wanted her and Azula. (edited)
   February 27, 2022
2. 
   
   trucha1 — Today at 11:09 AM
   Hey, The account is not mine, I have no power of decision on that. Also, my partner asked me to remove the RN from my thread because of all this. I was talking to him about this and the best decision was to remove it from my thread. Sorry.
3. 
   
   Macy — Today at 11:25 AM
   So who's account is it?
4. [11:27 AM]
   You have been the one transferring the pets off, yes? So therefore you have access. Katara isn't sold and to make this right/fair, I want her back.
5. 
   
   trucha1 — Today at 11:32 AM
   I don't have access to the account. I have deleted it from my thread, I don't want to know more about that account after yesterday hahaha. The account is already handled by him. Besides, I think my partner has a buyer already. I would like to close this case now, I think that yesterday everything was solved and I don't want to have stress. Good morning Macy.

Saying they don't have access to the account.

1. Macy — Today at 12:02 PM
   Because I'm asking for something so simple. Yet asking them not to sell my pet is somehow unreasonable? Okay. Even having access to the account won't save it after I prove the pets have been sold. Especially since he freshly ticketed to reset the pw from the original email. So he can't just claim he was hacked. That account is dead meat.
2. 
   
   trucha1 — Today at 12:05 PM
   If you want to start a war, no problem, I don't care about the account, it's not mine. you can also say goodbye to your account with Young, Small and the others. I also have tools like yours, no problem.
3. [12:09 PM]
   And I have no problem researching your IP and finding your other purchased accounts. I'm not like that, but I don't like the threats against me. And if you want a war I can enter it. I have many contacts, you can't imagine what I can achieve. I don't like problems and I don't want to continue with this. But as it begins, it does not end. You are going to open a war for something that you cannot recover and you are going to end up losing everything, I told you and I repeat it. There you. I have 0 fear.
4. [12:11 PM]
   I am a very nice person and I always try to help, but when people laugh at me or blackmail me it makes me angry. I'm very good at good times, and very bad at bad times. I've always wanted to be cool with you, but you try to blackmail me even when I told you I don't have that account anymore. Ok, no problem. I'm ready for whatever you want.
5. [12:12 PM]
   GL and bye

And the clencher blackmail message of course.

 

[Doritoes]

1. Macy — Today at 11:33 AM
   No, it was solved for the pets that were sold and it was assumed I'd get my other pet at minimum. Since it was mine from the start of all this.
2. [11:35 AM]
   Seriously, from an absolute fairness standpoint, I should at minimum get 1 of my 4 pets back. You lose no money and the pet isn't sold yet. Tell your seller not to sell, it's that easy. Otherwise I'm going to have to take action
3. 
   
   trucha1 — Today at 11:37 AM
   Macy, I'm sorry. I don't want to know more about this. Yesterday I spent stress talking to 4 bands, and I had to run to do the shopping and dinner later. Really, I'm not interested. The account is officially his, I talked to him about all this and he has official access to the Hotmail account that the account was created with. I had to give you an account that I was going to put up for sale to try and defuse the situation, which I wouldn't have and wasn't required to do. I no longer have any link with the account nor do I want to have it.

Also him not budging on asking for one of my own pets back.

 

[Doritoes]

1. I did this to help you yesterday and you said everything was fine, you didn't mention anything about the other pet. So that too was closed and I have the proof. And even if I wanted to give it to you I have nothing to do with the account anymore, nor do I want it. Luck.
2. 
   
   Macy — Today at 11:51 AM
   You can even have the account back. It means nothing to me. I want that one pet. If you wanted nothing to do with this, why not talk to your partner and have her talk to me? All this would be solved then.

Acting like he was doing me a favor by giving me an account that didn't even add up to half of what I lost. Keeping in mind this was an approximately $400 account. And I'm offered something worth $190 for MY OWN STUFF. And me saying they can have the account back and I just wanted ONE of my FOUR stolen pets back. I'm not unreasonable here.

 

[Doritoes]

Keeping in mind that I've had this account unfrozen for 6 months. I have Alice's ticket to prove that. And I have access to all the side accounts which this guy is claiming to steal now.

 

[Negg]

you Brute force took this account that belonged to my friend and he got it back . There's nothing more to speak of

 

[Doritoes]

Send me proof of the original email access then? And why is it that I have all the side accounts and you didn't even know they existed? And I bruteforced a frozen account that didnt have access in over 8 years? What? And tell me, you say I bought it and bruteforced it. Which is it?

This isn't Neopets, having the access to the original email isn't proof of ownership at any rate.

 

[Negg]

Of course I'll send all screenshots to the mods, not you.

 

[Doritoes]

And I will too. So let's let them handle it then. I have nothing else to prove. The evidence is there.

 

[Negg]

Of course there is nothing to prove by you, I have screenshots of you admitting that you stole that account and me and my friend have access to the original account, and I had to send a ticket formar recover the account you stealed. I'll be happy to talk to a mod to send him the screenshots and get it over with so you end up getting banned. Smearing is not free.

 

[Doritoes]

First you said I bought the account then you said I bruteforced. Pick a story and stick with it. I have other people that were screwed over by you so let the mods deal with this because ,frankly, I'm just done with talking to you. I've tried multiple times to talk to your mysterious seller and have hit a brick wall everytime so. Whatever. Let the mods handle this.

 

[Negg]

lol you literally said me that. you started the thread saying that it was your personal account, and when I asked you by discord you literally told me on that you stole that account loool Who is making up the stories?
I have had this page for 4 years, I have good buyers here and friends, I never had a problem with them and everyone knows it, +300 sellings.
Here clearly you can see how you say that you stole the account, and now it was reclaimed and you got angry.

1. Macy — Yesterday at 8:50 PM
   Yes. I'm not the og owner. But that was my active account
2. [8:50 PM]
   I've had it for months now
3. 
   
   trucha1 — Yesterday at 8:50 PM
   So you steal it? hahah
4. 
   
   Macy — Yesterday at 8:51 PM
   Yes. But it was inactive since 2014 I believe
5. [8:51 PM]
   Much better than 2022 activity...

It's very clear. The account belongs to my friend, you stole it,my friend has asked for it to be returned to him from the original mail and TNT has returned it to him. Nothing more to prove. As you said, I'll be happy to send all the screenshots, including the ticket sent to TNT and the reply, to the mods.
Nothing more to say to you. You are being exposed. I'll only reply to mods with screenshots (because I can't upload them here) and this will all be over.

 

[Doritoes]

Lol alright. Try to dig your way out of threatening to get my ip and freeze all my accounts and the side of that account XD idc if I get banned. You should be banned as well for shady dealings. And stealing active accounts. Have a good one.

 

[Doritoes]

Also if it's your friend's account, tell the mods all the side accounts minus the one I gave you I have a list of all of them and have access to 3, not even the ones linked on the original email (which your friend bruteforced into as well.) Not like you can't get this info because you have the same tools I do. But you didn't even know about the side I have access to.


So again, having access to the original email is not proof of ownership

 

[Negg]

I did not know about the secondary account that you have also stolen because it is not mine, but my friend's, but my friend does know them. I even have screenshots of him asking for sides back on a ticket sent to TNT.
A lot of the sides has been stolen like the one you stole (Watercrow) and we are working to freeze. My friend will send a message from the original mail to freeze that account, so no problem for that.

 

[Doritoes]

Ah so your threats were real then. So you're aiming to freeze the account I proved I owned to you? You're so funny. Mods, please come on soon. This is getting ridiculous talking to this dude.

 

[Doritoes]

So you sold these pets for 250 and are ticketing for them back? Wowwww

 

[Negg]

My friend pretends to freeze the accounts that have been stolen from him until he can get them back, yes. That is why he has sent several tickets to be frozen and not steal anything from them.

Alice W. (Neopets)

Feb 26, 2022, 10:41 AM PST

Hi,

The accounts are frozen for protection so right now no one has access to them but sadly we are being required to get a ticket from that email otherwise we cannot return them.

We have no saved IP information for these accounts and we do not rely on that for verification of account ownership.
Alice W.




You are loosing your time faking all this.