Ruling against posting irrelevant links

[GmT]

We've seen it time and time again, You're looking to buy/sell something and there it is.
A link to the most fabulous site ever. But here's the catch. You're not supposed to contact live chat!

Then why, o why, is there a link to that site in the post or in the title of said post?
No-one knows!

In short:
I'd like to suggest a ruling against posting irrelevant links (or in this case, links to a site with live chat) when live chat will auto-refer you to a skype or ignore your questions altogether.

This rule should only be active in all market sections. as it's the only place it would matter (IMO)

Another way to sum it up would be:

Support for this idea, link only your Skype on the thread if that's the place to contact you lol.

Though I would appreciate it if this also applied to bumps. often people won't even look at the OP

Pros;
Buyers time doesn't get wasted.
Threads will beat around the bush less with less spam.

Con's;
None that I can think of, find one and I'll edit this

Here's an example of what I'm talking about with "completely fictional links"

example thread:

Title:

Cheap OSRS powerleveling [WWW.RSSCAMFUND.COM][#1 Gold Saite] NMZ TRAINING

thread:

DONT CONTACT MY LIVECHAT!!! omg :(:(

www.rsscamfund.com is the best osrs gold website

TOS: We will scam you!

www.rsscamfund.com for cheap powerleveling

click to add my skype!

Example of how customers time will be wasted.

 

[Pain]

It's a no from me.

Reason: SEO purposes

Links in threads help the market go on, their important for the market. The majority of income for gold sites(Or ANY site) is made off links like these which help rank in google.

Take away the links, u risk damaging the market.

You are almost guaranteed some damage to the market because backlinks are important when ranking in google.

Also I believe that this would damage Sythes traffic? If someone searches something like "bogla gold giveaway" and theres a link to bogla gold in a dice giveaway, sythe will show up as a option high in the search results.


You will damage the market and you will potentially hurt sythes traffic, NO SUPPORT.

 

You are almost guaranteed some damage to the market because backlinks are important when ranking in google.

Also I believe that this would damage Sythes traffic? If someone searches something like "bogla gold giveaway" and theres a link to bogla gold in a dice giveaway, sythe will show up as a option high in the search results.

Pretty sure there's a difference between a dice giveaway and an actual market thread, which wouldn't be affected by this.

I'm also pretty sure sythe would still showup as the top result in that search, if not the second (the first being the acctual site), which would make your SEO better?

Either way, I'll support @GmT not many people are doing it currently but it could become a bigger issue in the future. No-one likes their time wasted

 

Support for this idea, link only your Skype on the thread if that's the place to contact you lol.

 

[GmT]

Support for this idea, link only your Skype on the thread if that's the place to contact you lol.

^ This is basically what I want but couldn't find the words to describe thanks @DesireX

 

@Sythe can we pick your brains with this one bud. Would it be all that bad for sythe?

 

[Rosed]

I feel like your basing this ruling on your own personal bad experience, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I think a majority of people on this forum aren't experiencing the problem your describing.

I don't think Sythe needs this rule and believe that the limitations and failure of interpretation are too significant to consider this to be a rule.

Enforcing this rule would require staff to keep tabs on each merchant and their activity on their site to see if their link in their forum post is justified. Removing links that refer to external websites all together would destroy the marketplace.

If you don't like the way someone advertises their product or services on Sythe, then just go to a competitor, there are barely any exclusive services here on Sythe so finding one shouldn't be all too hard.

Also, in reality, clicking a link in a forum thread and seeing if the live chat available isn't exactly all that time consuming. This rule would basically do more harm then good.

 

[GmT]

I feel like your basing this ruling on your own personal bad experience, not that there's anything wrong with that, but I think a majority of people on this forum aren't experiencing the problem your describing.

I don't think Sythe needs this rule and believe that the limitations and failure of interpretation are too significant to consider this to be a rule.

Enforcing this rule would require staff to keep tabs on each merchant and their activity on their site to see if their link in their forum post is justified. Removing links that refer to external websites all together would destroy the marketplace.

If you don't like the way someone advertises their product or services on Sythe, then just go to a competitor, there are barely any exclusive services here on Sythe so finding one shouldn't be all too hard.

Also, in reality, clicking a link in a forum thread and seeing if the live chat available isn't exactly all that time consuming. This rule would basically do more harm then good.

Im basing this ruling on the fact that I and probably a lot of other people had a lot of their time wasted. atleast 50% of rules come from an experience on the forum.

It's a pretty straight forward rule, If it's a market thread only link to somewhere where it can be discussed. not where you get redirected.

Enforcing this rule would be the same as enforcing any other rule. As of currently only 2-3 people are doing it. People like me can simply report the thread where the rule's being broken.

It's not about how someone advertises their product. I don't care how people advertise their product. the easiest way to describe what's being happend is people putting ads in their threads that are irrelevant to the acctualy product being sold.

 

[GmT]

Stop using my pictures and links, how many times do I have to report ur posts and have it deleted.

You CANNOT use anything belonging to rsgoldfund or the rsgoldfund name because I own the legal rights to all of the data and name.

@GmT this is the last time I'm reporting ur stuff, 3-4 times now I've had to have 3-4 mods delete it.

You don't own the zopim chat logs, nice try.

Your name's not on it either.

 

[GmT]

Chats= Site data.

I actually do own the rights to the zopim chat logs as its a paid service.

Then maybe you shouldn't have sent them to me: )

thanks for showing me litterally how bad of a business major you are <3

 

[ob1ac6]

They're offering you their skype not because you shouldn't contact their live chat, but because they want to be able to contact you as soon as they can when they can start offering their services again. However, I do think that it is not good that they would bump their thread while they were full and unable to take orders, it takes up more space and may hurt those who are performing those services.

 

[GmT]

They're offering you their skype not because you shouldn't contact their live chat, but because they want to be able to contact you as soon as they can when they can start offering their services again. However, I do think that it is not good that they would bump their thread while they were full and unable to take orders, it takes up more space and may hurt those who are performing those services.

The threads I linked but that got [redacted] had the site in the title + 2 links to their site in the thread itself. But only 1 link to their skype.

My point being the site links shouldn't even be in the title or the thread itself if i'm not supposed to contact them that way.

 

[ob1ac6]

The threads I linked but that got [redacted] had the site in the title + 2 links to their site in the thread itself. But only 1 link to their skype.

My point being the site links shouldn't even be in the title or the thread itself if i'm not supposed to contact them that way.

I believe though, you normally are suppose to contact them through their livechat. He is giving you his skype, so that when his services are ready he can contact you. That way you don't have to join day after day, asking if he can train your accounts. Maybe i'm off here, but I think the real problem is the fact they're bumping threads when they can not take more orders.

 

I don't see whats wrong with this. They told you that they can't take orders atm, you kept bugging them for a solid half an hour so he gave you a Skype that you can get in contact with so they can notify you when they can take you. You're not going to be contactable on livechat when they're actually able to take your order, it seems appropriate.

Maybe they bumped it and had some orders come in before you turned up? I've had a few bulk orders in the past and I'm not going to want to take a torso order when I'm doing 6 of them for someone else already.

 

[GmT]

I don't see whats wrong with this. They told you that they can't take orders atm, you kept bugging them for a solid half an hour so he gave you a Skype that you can get in contact with so they can notify you when they can take you. You're not going to be contactable on livechat when they're actually able to take your order, it seems appropriate.

Maybe they bumped it and had some orders come in before you turned up? I've had a few bulk orders in the past and I'm not going to want to take a torso order when I'm doing 6 of them for someone else already.

It's not about the bump or about the ordeal on livechat, it's the fact that he's advertising something completely unreletad to the service he's providing, more times then actually linking to a proper way of contacting him. If you don't want people to contact your livechat, don't link your site on the thread multiple times. It saves me time and other people time.

 

It's not about the bump or about the ordeal on livechat, it's the fact that he's advertising something completely unreletad to the service he's providing, more times then actually linking to a proper way of contacting him. If you don't want people to contact your livechat, don't link your site on the thread multiple times. It saves me time and other people time.

Since you didn't link the thread I can't see it, but I don't see anywhere on there that says you can't order via livechat? You went there and they said they're not able to take orders atm and to come back later, implying you can order via livechat

 

[Rosed]

It's not about the bump or about the ordeal on livechat, it's the fact that he's advertising something completely unreletad to the service he's providing, more times then actually linking to a proper way of contacting him. If you don't want people to contact your livechat, don't link your site on the thread multiple times. It saves me time and other people time.

What is he advertising thats unrelated to the service? We've already established that exchanging skype information is a customary procedure in the RS services industry so they can contact you when their services are available. Also, can you please provide arguments why you think sites don't want their livechats contacted?

 

[IMDED]

Always a chance if there's some sort of ip grabber links on here too, I never click links, also if it's just a Skype link on here, especially when you're more involved in rsps, then it's really important to not click any weird links also link with another name such as Skype . Idk and there would be a ip grabber on.

 

[GmT]

Since you didn't link the thread I can't see it, but I don't see anywhere on there that says you can't order via livechat? You went there and they said they're not able to take orders atm and to come back later, implying you can order via livechat

What is he advertising thats unrelated to the service? We've already established that exchanging skype information is a customary procedure in the RS services industry so they can contact you when their services are available. Also, can you please provide arguments why you think sites don't want their livechats contacted?

I linked the threads but they got removed. pmed an example to you.

 

What do you mean?

If I've ever traded with someone, I would easily hand out every way of contacting me whether it be sythe pm, skype or discord.

Why should they restrict live chat links? Most companies I've dealt with prefer using their live chats. Of course if you're regular they offer skype for more convenience.

If you contact via livechat an they're not able to fulfill the trade and offer Skype as an alternative when they can I don't see an issue with that.

I don't see a reason to remove their site/company link just because their unable to fill an order at that time. Imagine how many time they would have to remove and readd their links.

Am I missing something? Or is this far too stupid for me to understand.