Restructure on Sythe.org's punishment system

[Host]

I like this, it's a lot easier to simply ban someone from the forum they are breaking the rules in, but can't that person just go and start doing the same in another forum? How many forums will someone have to be banned from before they are actually fully permed?

 

I support this idea and have no criticism that immediately coming to mind.

 

[djweasel]

Meh I still like our system we have now. If someone is warned they will understand.

 

[MohtasaUnique]

But then there's this:

OK. I won't waste my time filing a report as you guys don't do much here, so feel free to let a suspicious and shady user scam the innocent @ Sythe.

He didn't scam us, but he is beyond immature. He just reported it because I was damaging his shady business.

Are you going to remove my infraction so I can post the report? Otherwise I'm not going to report him, I'm not going to be infracted for trying to warn this community. What sense does that make?

Where can I reach an admin/SMOD? We are looking to advertise here on Sythe.

Did you bother to read to my post? I did not accuse him of scamming, I accused him of being an incredibly and beyond reasonable doubt suspicious user. Very shady, which is a tradition of skype users, which is why a high-end site like ours usually avoids sites like this. We figured we'd give it a try.

Thanks for the LACK of help.

Dear -------,

You have received an infraction for Accusing of scamming without proof for the content of this post:-------

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Use the Report a Scammer forum located at the bottom of the index to report a scam. Don't post it in the market.
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This infraction is worth 1 point(s).

Accumulating five infractions within a month will result in a three-day ban; accumulating seven infractions in a month will result in a week-long ban, and accumulating 9 infractions in a month will result in a two week ban. Several temporary bans will eventually result in a permanent ban.

We suggest that you read and follow the forum rules, which can be found at (http://www.sythe.org/sythe-org-news/148431-sythe-org-official-rules.html).

Thanks,
Sythe.Org Forums

Being a sketchy user, needing a TwC, and scamming all fall under the same category. We highly encourage that you post all of these reports here:
http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/
so that we can take care of the user quickly and efficiently. Please make sure to read these threads before making a report too:
http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1109411-how-make-proper-scam-report-rules-guidelines.html
http://www.sythe.org/report-scammer/1118369-templates-reporting-scammer-must-use.html

The infraction will stay to serve as a reminder to post these accusations in the Report a Scammer forum rather than in the market. It will expire in one month, and will cause no detriment to your browsing here at Sythe.org, nor can it be seen by other users.

In order to advertise, I would PM Sythe directly.
http://www.sythe.org/members/1-sythe.html

There are things that just plain don't work

Our system demoralizes people from reporting. This isn't the only person who has ragequit because I would issue an infraction for them trying to help

 

[Emperor Nero]

I don't think a shame only based system will be effective. Yeah, you can call someone out in a thread and tell them they are doing wrong but what does that teach them? If you threaten someone with possible loss of business through a temporary ban, because they wouldn't comply to forum rules that is much more effective. Where is the motivating factor to comply with the rules? They get banned from say the SFA, I am sure they don't care - it won't really effect them. It doesn't give them any 'incentive' to change.

 

[MohtasaUnique]

The public reprimand isn't a "shame" system, it's a reminder. We always tell users "infractions serve as reminders", but they're ineffective, and it's ridiculous to ban users for 5 "reminders". Plus, the public bit means that users can see us enforcing rules, they can see what's expected, and they can see that mods are doing their job.

It's not meant to intimidate, it's meant to remind the user, and educate others. If people are persistent, then they will earn a section ban for a while. THAT will be the punishment part of this system, not the public reprimands.

 

[MohtasaUnique]

Right up to the top lolz

 

[FireZ]

Rules were adjusted months ago