[RESOLVED] Keep Treatment Equal For All Users

I agree if this was black and white but it never is. I've seen others do similar things while being ACTIVE and they don't get a TwC. But you are dealing with a company who has hundreds of customers a day. It's not always possible for the employees and admin to be on the same page. A deadline should not have been mentioned, because it's almost impossible for any worker to know when an admin is going to be there. Especially an admin with no set schedule and for a website that can be ran on its own for quite some time without him.

 

Im asking for a temporary dnt to be applied. Just till payment. Then what if they receive a million more orders and they cant pay out, or they receive orders and payout to their favorite customers. It’s just unfair

 

Also If you are struggling to satisfy all your customers then you need to employ more or take less in, It's not the customer's fault For the company director's failures, Some of the scam reports I have read people get Twc'd for poor trading which this is the perfect example.

*A deadline should not have to be mentioned* Ofc it does Like you said you are dealing with a Large Customer Base, You should be informing everyone what's going on.

How can you say this is not Black and White? It clearly is, A payment should have been sent instant instead of 48 hours later without informing the bloke Also he must have felt cause for concern to write a report.

This is exactly like Dr. Pepsi's case apart from a different mod.

Anyway, I have got my feedback to this suggestion out of the way, No hard feelings! best of luck for the future!

 

I feel it's just a waste of time for both staff and the user in question SOMETIMES. If he was getting no replies on live chat or being told he wasn't going to be paid I can see the DnT happening but this wasn't the case. R2pleasent himself was not in contact with staff when the report was opened but I was talking on his behalf and gave answers to both the seller, and staff. I don't think you can just DnT everyone who has a valid report on them. Every report should be handled differently. What you classify as sketchy others may not.

And no I don't think R2pleasent is above the rules but he's no flight risk and any long term member of this site knows that. I don't think its possible to ever treat everyone as equals.

 

It wasn't the company director's failure, it was a worker who was misinformed or just expecting something when he shouldn't have. Can you blame the admin for not giving his schedule? yes probably, but if you know the company from the inside you know it works well and he's never had a set schedule. The deadline should have never been mentioned period.

Anyways I know this whole ordeal shouldn't have happened and we are definitely going to try our best to avoid it in the future.

If there are any concerns anyone wants to voice to me about our trading practices I'll gladly help you with them on discord or in PM. But I assure you they are pretty solid and I don't think a TwC is really warranted.

 

We will have to agree to disagree, But fair play for admitting your failures. Twc is 100% warranted but best of luck to you guys!.

 

Personally, I believe a TWC should be issued in a situation like this. R2 is very well known most places. I do agree with the original post though, everyone should definitely be treated equally - well known or not.

Obviously R2 isn't a scammer, but there are big names out there that HAVE scammed in times of desperation. Also, again (personally), I would not like waiting any longer than a few hours for a decent sized payment but that's just me.

I get paranoid easily, so I'd say anything over a few hours of waiting I start getting sketched out dealing with large quantities of gold.

 

I'd rather see people use common sense than follow a dumb principle that doesn't need to be followed, no thanks.

 

Treating everyone equal is dumb principle, nice! thats common sense

 

This thread is to literally put everyone on a equal basis in rasc.

If sites are so wealthy and in good standings then they shouldnt mind a DNT for the split few hours they dont payout.

Like i said, there could have always been a few other factors in the initial example thread i used. A worker could have been scamming etc. Hense a DNT should have been applied which would alert R2 to get the shit together and the DNT would show the community that it isnt safe to trade with that user at that moment of DNT status.

 

There is no risk in trading with R2P, nor do his or his employees trading habits get questioned more than once every couple of years at most. Issuing a DNT would do nothing productive for R2P or anyone else this site, nor would a TWC.

If someone working for R2P were to be scamming customers through their site I don't think they would be seeing the outside world for very long, so again its a case of common sense.

 

It doesn't matter who he is, HENCE WHY the equal treatment notion

 

He's not crying , he's making the main point of the thread obvious

 

Yet the change would be redundant and only cause more hassle for both users and staff. Why make a change that has zero positives to both the community and the site?

 

It's an overall precaution?? If we are all treated as equal , and someone is holding $405 of your cash, youre telling me you would want to wait 48 hours + on that. That is double your donor status which took you over 4 years to even get

 

Yeah and the main point of this thread to cry about inequality which doesn't even exist. Nobody has even shown me a case where staff misexercised the judgement not to DNT a trusted user and they got to scamquit more due to that decision.

Everyone keeps saying "Yeah we are so treated unfairly!!!" this is exactly like the same issue I just had dealt with yesterday. People are making claims that have no evidence. For a non-existent problem.

The dudes a millionaire - He was waiting on more than you make in a year for a single BTC cashout from 1 of his 5 companies to payout the $400. Staff took a look at that completely reasonable stance and rightfully exercised discretion to take no punishment action.

Thinking people need to "trade with caution" a guy worth 7 figures with dozens of employees that's been safely trading and operating on this forum for over a decade over a delayed $400 payment is fucking LAUGHABLE. What makes it even worse is the fact he had a completely legitimate reason as to why the payment was delayed.

Stop crying. This is almost mob mentality.

 

Youre obviously not understanding any point of this thread at all and it's really baffling

 

Your claiming R2 was treated differently by not being issued a DNT immediately when a report came up.

I have did nothing but explain over and over the reasons BEHIND him not being issued the DNT which should be common sense but I spelled them out baby style for you all.

I completely understand your point. I also understand that staff enforce the rules at their discretion and an administrator handled the case. I also understand that a bunch of irrelevant people are crying about how staff don't issue DNT's to the rich but do to others.

Staff are human. Rules = Their discretion. Clearly a multi-millionaire is going to be treated in some forms on a different level. This isn't a bloody democracy. It's at best a republic and at worst a dictatorship. This isn't "we are all friends and are all equal".

Get. Over. It. There's a reason the "gap between the upper class and other classes" exists. As I told Russian. Know what class you are. Know where you belong on the totem pole. This isn't Kindergarden. Staff are real people dealing with real problems. Just like real world judges are real people dealing with real problems. The rich are treated differently in the real world; Why on Earth would you be naïve enough to think it would be different online of all places?

If you think staff are unjustly treating users or are "corrupt" than that's a different matter and one I'd advise you speaking to administration regarding. This isn't a matter for a bunch of nobodies to gang together and support and form mob mentality over their "unfair treatment".

If you have a problem ; Than speak to staff about it. I'm sure @Charlotte would be happy to speak to anyone that feels they've been treated unfairly.

I can personally attest that one thing staff are good at is listening to me bitch and moan non stop so if they listen to me I'm certain that anyone whos treated "unfairly" they'll also listen to.

 

I'm probably irrelevant to this topic, but yea there are some good points on both sides of the topic, r2 is a multimillionaire no risk blah blah and then there is everyone should be treated the same democracy shit like that blah blah. I think what should have happened as a "multi millionaire" company. R2 should have compensated for the wait time as the customer was waiting for over 2 days and yea that is unacceptable and that is not the customers fault. It's the sites fault for not delivering on time as promised.. Thus, the customer should have been compensated for waiting a long time. Then both sides would be happy, so stop being fucking greedy r2 and compensate him for his losses, give him a bonus or some shit idk

 

Just to reference that is typically what happens. There's dozens of examples of guys like Partypete/Kaii/R2/Myself/etc(gold sites) compensating users over wait times. Typically its just a few dollars but I've seen $50.00+ before for like week long waits.

It's like people have lost their minds; This is a standard practice that has gone on since the dawn of gold selling. 2 days is nothing. Nothing compared to other waits people have did lol.

I know gold sites that at this very second have tabs running of 5 figures+ owed that are a month old. Delayed payments are not something remotely new. Gold eats a lot of capital. G2A holds money for very long times(typically 21-28 days from start-> finish) - A lot of gold sites don't keep or don't have that sort of capital and cash available on hand 24/7 in every single payment method.

Sometimes that causes a breakdown of communication between Employer and employee as Dank said. I've seen gold sites with $100,000 in their paypals ready to go but $100 in BTC.

It's very expensive from a margin side to move all that money around.

Pay 7% fees to g2a-> 1% to withdraw to bank-> wait 7 days-> than you have to move that cash to 3 different places lets say, paypal, skrill and BTC. Costs 1-2% to move to paypal, 2-3% for skrill and 2-3% for BTC. All of that takes another 3-7 days. Lets not forget u might also be paying 2-3% currency conversions along the way.