[RESOLVED] Keep Treatment Equal For All Users

I see them hand DNTs quick as fuck when there's any minor or major mistake involved, and it's for a good reason. I completely support your topic, nothing can return those 48 hours that were lost due to that mistake, and it shouldn't have got the point where he had to wait 48 hours+ to make a report to finally get his money.

ANYONE like me would've instantly been given a DNT in any similar situation and this I can guruantee lol.

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I'd like staff to be clear on this actually. We all are wondering if we were in this situation, would staff act the same way? What parameters change their reaction towards the situation? Staff need to be clear with this, so we know what to expect. If staff will deal with a "high rep" user differently than an average user, how much rep exactly must that person require to push through the instant DNT? Staff, can you be clear regarding this? Thank you.

 

Yeah, now put yourselves in staff shoes. You are you but you are not staff. If you were staff you would have known R2P by seeing one another on the forums for years on end. Maybe even in addition to that, you are friends through Sythe. You trade with one another, and you trust him. Would you be quick to DNT the user - essentially turning off his sythe trading for 48 hours - over something that you are 99.9% will be fixed? I wouldn't...but I'd go ahead and give him a TWC for the timebeing and tell him I'm doing my job.

 

When you invest 10+ years into growing a business on Sythe, and have handled $10M+ USD in trades, and you get DNT'ed for 48h of non-payment, then you can cry about inequality. But when you're a 1.5 month user who has a sig made by a potato and have not invested anything beyond making a couple of posts into your reputation, then trying to compare yourself to me is absolutely hilarious. Some things are earned. You don't show up as a nobody on a trading forum built almost entirely on individuals' reputation and somehow try to argue that it's unfair. Put your 10+ years in, 10,000+ hours in, then come back here and launch your complaint.

When trading is done entirely on reputation, the only situation where two users are treated unequally is when their reputations / investment into that reputation are comparable.

 

I did a little research on your boy "Dr Pepsi". Seems he spent a solid 2 years (2016-18) banned from Sythe for scamming like 20M 07. Right around the time he stole someone's 20M for some NMZ training (user actually claimed it was 300M, lost because lack of proof), he had something like 4 other reports open against him: Skank Services won't refund deposit.

Then I guess he finally decided he wanted to give Sythe another try, so he paid back the amount that was proven that he stole and left unpaid for 1 year+. Then he changed his name so people wouldn't discover his terrible old reputation, and opened some new gold shop. But yeah, this guy who has spent more than half his time on Sythe banned for scamming is also a highly trusted user. Definitely comparable.

 

After seeing R2 absolutely lay rape upon this peasant individual, I support R2 and the oldfag rules.

No support here, oldfag all the way.

 

It's the principle of the fact, the fact that staff is able to just decide when and when not to hand out punishments when the situation is the same (delay of payment) is absurd, don't you guys think? No offense to R2Pleasent, I see you're an old user and seem to be very trusted, but what happened with you is the TEXTBOOK definition of poor trading practices, which was the same thing Pepsi got TWCed for.

 

I wont even read most of this but I fully support your thread.

It doesn't matter if you're a tramp living on the streets or the queen of England, you are to be treated no differently. I know that some swelled up ego dwellers like Bus will quote me like "oh but we're too trusted", doesn't matter and completely irrelevant to the point of the dispute section.

I'm extremely trusted on other websites, it doesn't mean I shouldn't receive a trade with caution or a DNT, a worker scammed on OSbot (currently around #7 for feedback) and I was refunding it - Someone reported it here, despite the fact I was and did resolve it at roughly the same time... You're picking at straws to make yourself sound mighty when you're really not.

 

This ^ Dese Ego heads need shakin up a lil

 

He Ain't my *boy*, I personally don't know him. But regardless of his old passed. He *Pardoned* It's a fresh start as everyone puts it so that is not relevant to the point I am making, You handled Business extremely poor like he did, He received a twc for it and so should you.

You get special treatment because your an ex-mod and *Highly Trusted* but by the looks of what people are saying you handle business like a bitch.

 

Yeah he stole 300m and only needed to pay back 20m because of a technicality. He's SOOOOO innocent. You sure its a 'fresh' start for this fker? Far as I'm concerned he's a scammer. Great guy to raise as an example.

You use a known liar and scammer as an example and compare him to an ex-mod? Are you high?

 

If there is not enough proof that's not anyone's problem apart from the guy who submitted a report, Regardless I'm going to stop messaging on here. It's for users to get equal rights between each member. Pardoned or not pardoned doesn't matter. This thread/suggestion is about being equal and not allowing big companies to have better rights than normal members.

I am using his case as an example, You are too dumb to read the rest of the comments, If you got nothing to say about this suggestion then shut up.

 

Inequality is a very broad term tbh.
You can say inequality is valid on some scam reports, but obvious there is inequality that should be valued.
Example
User A: Scam report for 40$, username:bvgbdbgd , joined: 2 days ago
User B: User who has a few millions in revenue, gets twcd so he does not scam more people of 40$? That way competition and ill intented people can literally tag you regularly

Obviously, inequality can be an issue and has been on some instances, but R2p is the og here, obviously he will pay the person, obviously he waited too long, and it’s obvious that a warning is the right way to help him to correct himself.

If we just go around with the twc or banhammer, we basicly turn into jagex, literally, and if you see how open this community is, the pardon system, the dedicated time staff take, the new updates that were brought by @Champ to rules, its so much bigger than that

 

This is what I mean dude. I have done nothing wrong yet you want to disrespect me and try to personally attack me rather than sticking to the topic.

Whether I am here for 1.5 months or not, you won't find a report on me lol.
Secondly, that's the point of the topic. Treat "ALL USERS" equally.

This is exactly my point here, you seem ARROGANT due to being here for a longer time and FEEL PRIVILEGED to be treated in a special way simply because of that. I personally don't think that's a fair system, even in real life, you could be rich but the laws apply to everyone equally and that's what keeps things stable and balanced lol.

And indeed, what you have achieved is still marvelous so I congratulate you for that, but does that give you special treatment? No. And will personally attacking me or pointing out how cheap my signature is help you? No.

 

Hi, crazy pipe,

We all agreed he was going to be paid, And r2 is a very trusted and highly respected member no one will disagree.

99% of the community would have been Dnt'd and Twc'd until funds were paid and Twc for poor business, I think everyone agrees with that, I don't think a Dnt should have been applied since he replied on the post and was fully committed to paying, However, a Twc should have been applied due to the fact his miscommunication with the customer was not there, He promised a payment after 18 hours which in fact it was closest to 48 hours, Yes there was no risk of him harming that user but like many people have said Rules are Rules and everyone even the owner/Mods/Trusted users/None trusted users Must abide by.

It is clear that this case wasn't treated equally as other users have been Twc'd for this and that is why everyone is so upset with the ruling and mods have openly admitted that the case won't be re-opened for discussion which I personally think is absurd. Yes, I am strongly against bigger companies Ruling the Market and getting reports to go their way.

However, the mods have made it pretty clear where they stand with the whole situation. It clearly shows some people are above the rules where 99% of the community is not.

Sorry for the essay.

 

Of course he does.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who thinks it at least, he has done so for quite some time. Has a giant stick up his ass and tries to be funny with it.

 

Spot on, its a clear case of connections and it clearly needs to be resolved. The mods had no proof that R2 wasn't in fact exit scamming, they just "assumed" like wortel stated himself.

"but we all know the chances of R2P running away with $500 is less likely than if let’s say @Voyager"
Sadly an assumption does not resolve scams.

Support

 

@Ex Can you put a poll up? I think this will make it clearer.

 

Sure it will. The nobodies outnumber the somebodies.

Even R2 laid down the hammer and fucking shit all over most of the people on this thread lol.

Bunch of irrelevant nobodies expecting to be treated like the people who have slaved and built companies from the ground up and are worth 7 figures with 20,000 vouches is hilarious.

Like I said - It's a totem pole. Know where you belong on it.

 

Throwback to the time MMORPG (aka one of the most trusted, long-term users this site has seen) was DNT'ed and then TWC'ed for a late payment because one of his workers had to go to the hospital with their child. MMORPG's TWC dispute
I'd say they are treating businesses just a shit as the average user.

 

And should continue to do so