Reporting BulletProof

[Bulletproof]

I know he can't be banned off sythe since there is not enough evidence, but is the payment that you 3 working out really fair?


End result is 33.6m/78m exp, 290m/460m payment, and 1 account banned

How is that a fair payment if neither of us is guilty?

youre the one that agreed on the payment plan many times, @Azie has your money go collect him from him.

 

[Azie]

@Bulletproof has traded me 53.2m for the refund amount.

Edit - @thesleepyaf has been paid 53.2m.

 

[tMoon]

I know he can't be banned off sythe since there is not enough evidence, but is the payment that you 3 working out really fair?


End result is 33.6m/78m exp, 290m/460m payment, and 1 account banned

How is that a fair payment if neither of us is guilty?

This is a good point and given previous precedent upon there being no guilty party, the responsibility would lie on both parties for re-payment; however, you have already been refunded 53M.

With this in mind, how much would a proper refund (placing half the guilt on both parties) be?

@Azie @Yankiee thoughts on the above?

Edit: Keep in mind, I am brain-storming solutions. Precedent may involve two individuals coming to an agreement, but this may not apply to your situation providing you admitted to botting on your IP and there is no proof Bulletproof botted at all. Alongside this, one account is permed and one was only temporarily banned. My comment is in no way binding; rather, (again), just brainstorming solutions.

 

[thesleepyaf]

Edit: Keep in mind, I am brain-storming solutions. Precedent may involve two individuals coming to an agreement, but this may not apply to your situation providing you admitted to botting on your IP and there is no proof Bulletproof botted at all. Alongside this, one account is permed and one was only temporarily banned. My comment is in no way binding; rather, (again), just brainstorming solutions.

He also admitted to running bot farms? Why am I highlighted for saying I previously botted?

 

[Azie]

This is a good point and given previous precedent upon there being no guilty party, the responsibility would lie on both parties for re-payment; however, you have already been refunded 53M.

With this in mind, how much would a proper refund (placing half the guilt on both parties) be?

@Azie @Yankiee thoughts on the above?

Edit: Keep in mind, I am brain-storming solutions. Precedent may involve two individuals coming to an agreement, but this may not apply to your situation providing you admitted to botting on your IP and there is no proof Bulletproof botted at all. Alongside this, one account is permed and one was only temporarily banned. My comment is in no way binding; rather, (again), just brainstorming solutions.

The problem is due to the agreed payment plan. The mistake was that instead of doing it based on GP/XP the payments were agreed on batch training. 70/70/70 was agreed for 50m but its only 2.1m xp. Average of 2.1m xp would only cost like 12m or so. Not sure what we can do?

 

[tMoon]

He also admitted to running bot farms? Why am I highlighted for saying I previously botted?

Because its your account and Bullet is not having problems with other accounts he has trained. This report would be an entirely different issue if multiple users utilizing his service were getting banned for botting.

 

[thesleepyaf]

Because its your account and Bullet is not having problems with other accounts he has trained. This report would be an entirely different issue if multiple users utilizing his service were getting banned for botting.

Fair enough. About the payment, I think @Azie has said it. I guess I just screwed myself over by agreeing to bullet's payment plans, I shouldn't have done that. I guess I can only hope for compensation for the banned account.

 

[Bulletproof]

Fair enough. About the payment, I think @Azie has said it. I guess I just screwed myself over by agreeing to bullet's payment plans, I shouldn't have done that. I guess I can only hope for compensation for the banned account.

You made up the payment plan and I fined tuned it for your liking. Yeah you're welcome.

 

@Azie @Yankiee @Tmoe
Read the above deleted post

 

[Azie]

The new material posted by @thesleepyaf will be discussed with the staff team.

 

[Azie]

Read deleted posts @Tmoe @Yankiee

 

[Gun]

@Azie @Killswitch Am i missing something here or should Bulletproof receive his 50m back since both accounts have returned to a good standing?

 

[Azie]

@Azie @Killswitch Am i missing something here or should Bulletproof receive his 50m back since both accounts have returned to a good standing?

The 50m was rightfully returned by Bulletproof as it was a refund for uncompleted services.

 

[Bulletproof]

@Azie @Killswitch Am i missing something here or should Bulletproof receive his 50m back since both accounts have returned to a good standing?

Aye

 

[thesleepyaf]

Can't wait to receive my full 290m back ^.^

 

[thesleepyaf]

33.6m/78m = 198.15m/460m. Not 290m. Forget about the botting, Nice scam for 92m.

You can cry about the payment plan being op's choice but you still ripped him off. The only reason for the payment plan was because op wasn't comfortable giving you all the money without any progress being done. The price was for ONE big job not for several small jobs.

The reason for the payment plan was so that neither side felt like they were scammed/trusting the other person with too much wealth as it was a big job, which is why wealth was given to the other player when he reached a suitable target set by them both.

I've been saying that for so long, thank you. The agreement was for level 3 to max, so exp should be calculated in total... I have no idea why it was decided the way it was.

 

[thesleepyaf]

Xp @ level 1 is what, 2k an hour? Compared to 90k+/hr (I think) @ higher levels? The payment plan and refund amount seem fair to me. If you paid me in installments of $30k per room completed for a total of $300k for a new house and I built 9/10 rooms before you blew the house up I'm not giving you $270k after investing my time and resources into it.

I wonder if I can get infracted for implying @xLiquidsnake and @thesleepyaf should shut the fuck up and stop posting irrelevant information on this scam report. It's for the greater good. One "spam" post to prevent many spam posts.

If you made 9/10 rooms for $270k then blew up my house I would want the money back lmfao. I have sent proof of that which the mods are reviewing, stop spamming my thread.

@Azie @Killswitch Am i missing something here or should Bulletproof receive his 50m back since both accounts have returned to a good standing?

I know you're trolling, but 2 black marks and 1 black mark with a temp ban is still not anywhere close to good standing.

 

[Bulletproof]

Can't wait to receive my full 290m back ^.^

You aren't getting anything more from me kiddo sorry.

 

[thesleepyaf]

You aren't getting anything more from me kiddo sorry.

I'm not doing this for the money anymore. Everybody is cheering for the ban.

 

[Bulletproof]

I'm not doing this for the money anymore. Everybody is cheering for the ban.

I'm not worried lol joke on all you LOL