Pures ruining the game for new players?

[BGlave]

Understanding how the combat system functions, pures are able to profit off that and use it in their favor to have have an unfair advantage in the wilderness.

This isn't necessarily cheating, however it undermines the combat system and breaks the game in a way for new players to not understand and give up.

Is it their fault for not standing a chance and understanding the game the way a veteran does?

Is it Jagex's fault for taking action too late against the system? (EOC)

Is the system fine the way it is?

I have always thought about this and the damage it caused the game, especially in a repairing game like oldschool.

 

[Anton1997]

Well I agree. A level 60 with 60 atk 70 str 1 def will beat the crap out of a level 60 with 40,40,30, but then again, theres nothing we can do about that. The noobs will have to make friends and eventually find out the advantages that pures have. Also, most newbies don't head straight to the wilderness after atleast a few months of training. If they were really interested in the game, chances are they would go on youtube or on a fansite and eventually run into the topic before they get wiped in the wildy

I believe the system is fine the way it is.

 

[DdsSpecK0d]

No matter what the game there are always pures/twinks ect. theyre purely pvp based acc's that's what they are made for. you find them everywhere (diablo, wow, rs, ect) stay away from wildy if you don't understand the game

 

[BGlave]

Well I agree. A level 60 with 60 atk 70 str 1 def will beat the crap out of a level 60 with 40,40,30, but then again, theres nothing we can do about that. The noobs will have to make friends and eventually find out the advantages that pures have. Also, most newbies don't head straight to the wilderness after atleast a few months of training. If they were really interested in the game, chances are they would go on youtube or on a fansite and eventually run into the topic before they get wiped in the wildy

I believe the system is fine the way it is.

All cases wouldn't be like this. I am sure they would be quick to pk after starting, as would anyone who finds out about this game.

No matter what the game there are always pures/twinks ect. theyre purely pvp based acc's that's what they are made for. you find them everywhere (diablo, wow, rs, ect) stay away from wildy if you don't understand the game

So they should stay away from the wilderness for not understanding the structure of the combat system? I understand where you are coming from, but be a little more open minded about the issue.

There needs to be some sort of official guide line for new players to read and learn from. Experiencing defeat over and over isn't really exciting or fruitful. I would be a little more judgmental if it was actually 2007, however that is not the case, it's 2014 where the veterans are able to conquer and the new players weep.

 

[Just Sayin']

Experience is key I guess.

 

[crowe]

thats all part of the game other examples of this

FPS like CoD : certain guns are superior to others thus vets have an advantage.

MMOs like runescape wow etc. all have better weapons armors so vets will know where to A.farm and B. how to use them to get the best from their items.

its just all part of being new and being realistic "pures" today [ if you wanna actually call them that] are nothing when compared to the days of rsc where using the wrong thing resulted into actually ruining your build [unlike today where you can get away with it easier and or switch the build much easier.

 

[TJOC]

New players will have a disadvantage in any game they pick up, just because they don't know the best methods and tactics dosn't mean that I will take it easy on them.

We all had to learn at some point too, if you remember.

 

[Chicken Noodle]

New players will have a disadvantage in any game they pick up, just because they don't know the best methods and tactics dosn't mean that I will take it easy on them.

We all had to learn at some point too, if you remember.

Completely agree with this.

@OP, in no way am I flaming you or your opinion. But your post is highly reflective of what this world is coming to. A world where there is no competition anymore for kids. Everybody gets that trophy or ribbon of participation. There are no winners or losers, everybody gets a gold star. Oh somebody isn't good at pking? Let's completely change the game for them so that they can be just as good as players who have been around far longer! Games, especially competitive games like RS, weren't made to be mastered over night. If you want that, go join a private server.

There is no flaw in the combat system, the Pure community has just found a strategic way to build their accounts to maximize DPS, because they are EXPERIENCED players. It just brings us back to the point that everybody is making, as in every game, the more experienced players win, plain and simple.

 

It's just a life experience if anything. If you're not good at something at first or don't know anything you try it again and again and learn from each loss/defeat. Eventually those new players learn that there are methods of staying safe from pures and also perhaps they'll be interested in starting their own pures.

Coming from someone who was in those shoes at one point I tried over and over again and eventually learned some tips and tricks to become better at the game.

Pking is just one thing, what about woodcutting? Are all the good woodcutting places for yew logs necessarily obvious? No. But with time, research and experience everyone can find those less common and more productive locations.

 

Learn and move on from it. Gotta adapt to the playing field in my opinion.

Getting your ass kicked, gotta switch something up

 

[cownap]

This is what makes Runescape great. Why do we have to bubble wrap everything for everyone once a video game gets main stream?

I remember starting out in Runescape being naive and the learning process of the game made it so much more entertaining. But I guess when games get popular they try to dumb it down and simplify everything so new players have a "smooth experience".

Personally I got hooked on Runescape as a child because of how volatile it was. You never knew what might happen. I remember being somewhat of a noob and hanging out upstairs in Varrock West Bank when what was likely a goldfarmer level 3 died to a random event. Only me and one other guy stood over his body because I guess everyone assumed he was a noob with no loot. I ended up picking up 13M and the other guy got like 25k yews. Or one day my luck could go the other way and I would be a victim of a scam.

But more specific to the topic, when I was noob and would try to pk in the wilderness I would get wrecked most of the time. But because I was so interested in the mysteriousness and unpredictability of the wilderness I made it a point to learn more about. I started watching pk videos and I was inspired by pures rather than discouraged.

tl;dr If a player is interested in the PvP element of the game they will learn themselves, we shouldn't dumb the game down for them.

 

[TheSaintsRow]

I totaly agree with your statement tbh.

 

[DdsSpecK0d]

This is what makes Runescape great. Why do we have to bubble wrap everything for everyone once a video game gets main stream?

I remember starting out in Runescape being naive and the learning process of the game made it so much more entertaining. But I guess when games get popular they try to dumb it down and simplify everything so new players have a "smooth experience".

Personally I got hooked on Runescape as a child because of how volatile it was. You never knew what might happen. I remember being somewhat of a noob and hanging out upstairs in Varrock West Bank when what was likely a goldfarmer level 3 died to a random event. Only me and one other guy stood over his body because I guess everyone assumed he was a noob with no loot. I ended up picking up 13M and the other guy got like 25k yews. Or one day my luck could go the other way and I would be a victim of a scam.

But more specific to the topic, when I was noob and would try to pk in the wilderness I would get wrecked most of the time. But because I was so interested in the mysteriousness and unpredictability of the wilderness I made it a point to learn more about. I started watching pk videos and I was inspired by pures rather than discouraged.

tl;dr If a player is interested in the PvP element of the game they will learn themselves, we shouldn't dumb the game down for them.

Exactly I completely second this!!

 

[dragon man]

This is what makes Runescape great. Why do we have to bubble wrap everything for everyone once a video game gets main stream?

I remember starting out in Runescape being naive and the learning process of the game made it so much more entertaining. But I guess when games get popular they try to dumb it down and simplify everything so new players have a "smooth experience".

Personally I got hooked on Runescape as a child because of how volatile it was. You never knew what might happen. I remember being somewhat of a noob and hanging out upstairs in Varrock West Bank when what was likely a goldfarmer level 3 died to a random event. Only me and one other guy stood over his body because I guess everyone assumed he was a noob with no loot. I ended up picking up 13M and the other guy got like 25k yews. Or one day my luck could go the other way and I would be a victim of a scam.

But more specific to the topic, when I was noob and would try to pk in the wilderness I would get wrecked most of the time. But because I was so interested in the mysteriousness and unpredictability of the wilderness I made it a point to learn more about. I started watching pk videos and I was inspired by pures rather than discouraged.

tl;dr If a player is interested in the PvP element of the game they will learn themselves, we shouldn't dumb the game down for them.

dont know any better way to say this,agreed.