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Post Count : A Defining Factor?

In being one of the most outspoken and opinionated people around here my post count goes up very quickly (41+ per day) on a bad day.

It doesnt mean a whole lot as there is no competition and no prize.
 
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I'm just saying that it does mean something. How many OMMs or staff are stomping around with less than 1k posts.

I don't think anyone in this thread is trying to argue that it is the defining factor or trust. I think everyone knows that quality and quantity of vouches is what is important

I was staff with like 800 posts, so I can honestly say from personal experience. Post count doesn't mean a whole lot ;)
 
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I was staff with like 800 posts, so I can honestly say from personal experience. Post count doesn't mean a whole lot ;)

I agree it doesn't mean a whole lot, my point is that it means something.

Imo a person with a 2005 join date with 3k+ posts is less likely to scam than someone with a 2005 join date with 15 posts.

The person with more posts has more to lose as they have invested more time into this site.

It also means something simply because people DO use it as a gauge of trust. I'm not saying that people SHOULD use it as a gauge of trust, but because many users do then it does mean something.

(Also you are always an exception to the rule faggot:P)
 
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I agree it doesn't mean a whole lot, my point is that it means something.

Imo a person with a 2005 join date with 3k+ posts is less likely to scam than someone with a 2005 join date with 15 posts.

The person with more posts has more to lose as they have invested more time into this site.

It also means something simply because people DO use it as a gauge of trust. I'm not saying that people SHOULD use it as a gauge of trust, but because many users do then it does mean something.

(Also you are always an exception to the rule faggot:P)


I sense a little hostility "faggot" :p

I personally have seen people in the marketplace and read in missed msn convo's where I was invited to MM, but was afk, where one of the persons involved states, "I have more posts, I'm more active on sythe, so I'm more trusted."

I read these and laugh. It happens, and quite often in fact. I will never let post count get in the way of my decision of whether a person is trusted or not. When I first started on sythe, as a MM with 300~ posts, I had people with 500-800+ posts use me as a MM. They trusted me. They didn't distrust me because of my low post count. They took the time to look at my legitimate vouch count, which is what everyone else should do. I will agree with you on one thing, however. Using your example, two people with a 2005 join date: one with 15 posts, one with 1k posts. Sure the person with 1k posts has more to lose. But that doesn't mean he won't risk it. As a gold trader and middleman, I deal with all types of people. Leechers who just joined this month. leechers from 2005. Gurus from 3-5 months ago, gurus from 2005. Also as a Moderator, I've banned people from all of the above categories.

Basically what I'm trying to say is, post count is the LAST thing you should consider when deciding someones trust value.
 
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I sense a little hostility "faggot" :p

I personally have seen people in the marketplace and read in missed msn convo's where I was invited to MM, but was afk, where one of the persons involved states, "I have more posts, I'm more active on sythe, so I'm more trusted."
You can't blame them. People are going to say anything they can to sound more legit and avoid going first, legit or scammers. This just prooves that people do hold the ideology that post count means something.
I read these and laugh. It happens, and quite often in fact. I will never let post count get in the way of my decision of whether a person is trusted or not. When I first started on sythe, as a MM with 300~ posts, I had people with 500-800+ posts use me as a MM. They trusted me. They didn't distrust me because of my low post count. They took the time to look at my legitimate vouch count, which is what everyone else should do. I will agree with you on one thing, however. Using your example, two people with a 2005 join date: one with 15 posts, one with 1k posts. Sure the person with 1k posts has more to lose. But that doesn't mean he won't risk it. As a gold trader and middleman, I deal with all types of people. Leechers who just joined this month. leechers from 2005. Gurus from 3-5 months ago, gurus from 2005. Also as a Moderator, I've banned people from all of the above categories.
Of course, no one is ever 100% trustworthy. We've all seen OMMs and staff in the past succumb to scamming. Though I still think in my example that the post count factor would make that person less likely to scam as opposed to the low post count person.
Basically what I'm trying to say is, post count is the LAST thing you should consider when deciding someones trust value.
Like I've said, I don't think it's the defining factor, or even a terribly important one. Though you kind of admitted that it DOES mean something if you are still taking it into consideration, even if it's the last thing to consider ;)

I think any smart person on here knows how to read vouches and judge legitimacy.

The thing is there are a LOT of people who aren't as smart and DO judge by post count. So a service provider or mill seller may lose customers who are judging them by post count, which means that post count does mean something.
 
No why would they do that ? I think its built in with the vb code I may be wrong though. And also some people like having a post count so they feel they have achived something.

So it stops all the spammers trying to get up their post count.

I've seen some vB forums that've removed it, I don't know if this version supports it.
The irony of Gohan (Mr. One-Week-Til-20k-Posts) posting first in this thread is tickling. :laugh:

I've never given a second glance to a person's post count. As I say in any thread that insinuates post count matters, I couldn't even name within 100-200 posts of accuracy what mine is. I'm gonna guess..... 2200? ;)
EDIT: Holy crap, I've been on a posting frenzy. :o





Iirc from when I had my own forums like 5 years ago, removing the counter is impossible but removing it from being displayed is incredibly easy. However, I will never suggest removing post count outright. There are several instances where post count is valuable; for example, if I was offering advice to somebody, as well as being a correlative reference to somebody's activity.

What I meant was it to be removed from being displayed.

You can generally tell good advice just by reading it and if not by that the way it's being presented (with proofs and *usually* good language). Ironically, a lot of people with high post count just spam it up so your argument is a conjecture.;)
 
I've seen one million threads like this, it's pointless.
Post count doesn't mean anything more than you sit on Sythe and post random stuff.
90% of my posts are in the Market, I have like 1.3k, and I've been here for 4 years.
Look at join date, quality vouches, and search the name to look at RaS reports.
 
I have seen members on here with under 50 posts, but a 2005 join date. I would way rather trade with them rather than a member with a high post count who has recently joined. I myself have recently joined, and I have a low post count. With this combination I find it nearly impossible to ever be trusted, but a MM is always the best option.
 
You can't blame them. People are going to say anything they can to sound more legit and avoid going first, legit or scammers. This just prooves that people do hold the ideology that post count means something.

Of course, no one is ever 100% trustworthy. We've all seen OMMs and staff in the past succumb to scamming. Though I still think in my example that the post count factor would make that person less likely to scam as opposed to the low post count person.

Like I've said, I don't think it's the defining factor, or even a terribly important one. Though you kind of admitted that it DOES mean something if you are still taking it into consideration, even if it's the last thing to consider ;)

I think any smart person on here knows how to read vouches and judge legitimacy.

The thing is there are a LOT of people who aren't as smart and DO judge by post count. So a service provider or mill seller may lose customers who are judging them by post count, which means that post count does mean something.

you should really stop coloring your text

and i dont think postcount means anything, if i spam 850 posts in two months doesnt mean i will be trusted.
i trust people on their vouches, not posts
 
Unfortunately I think it tends to be a big defining factor to the honest newcomers. Which can be a bad thing because quality < quantity. I think newcomers tend to be lazy / uninformed and instead of checking vouches they will check post count and let that deem who is trustworthy to them.

If anyone wanted they could just post on everything with meaningless and unhelpful information to boost their post count, but the smart traders know to look past post count.
 
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I agree with some of the above posts, although the post count displays how active the user is on the forum itself, un-necessary bumping & offers that are obviously never going to be considered are annoying, un-needed & slow down my replying A LOT. For example: Someone has asked a question on a forum and genuinely needs help, I don't want to post if his question has already been sufficiently answered, yet I have to filter through 15 comments saying "hehe", "lol", "GTFO", "Free bump". I can't for the life of me understand why its even necessary.

When deeming trust, one key factor for me, although prejudice: Someone who can put together a sentence with correct grammar, use of punctuation, and doesn't add me and say "y0 m8 i'll offer $900 for ur lvl 9 acc".
 
I'll be honest, post count does help me trust them a bit more, so i guess in a way it does.
 
Alright, lets take Gohan for example. Notice he has 20k posts? Lets pretend he didn't have any vouches/wasn't a mod/was plain. Would you trust him JUST because a spam-whores Sythe?

Some people would because of his join date is a few years ago, some others wouldn't because he has absolutely no vouches.

I could be like 20 post count with 400 vouches. I'd trust someone with 400 vouches/20 post count rather than 3 vouches/20,000 post count any day.
You could go through the guy with 20 post count and see that most of his posts are quality 5 paragraph posts.
 
I dont care about post count after i saw a Feb 2011 (joib the 28th) with 1.2k post count. It just goes to show that, like you said, people can useless post.
 
It's a combination of post count and join date that help me decide whether to deal with the person or not.

I've seen people with 20 posts and a join date of 2+ years ago making threads saying TRUSTED LONG STANDING MEMBER.. :laugh: scammers in disguise.
 
Post count, join date, vouches, general professionalism in what they post and what they have in their signature, types of trades they've done before, how many times I've seen them post good helpful comments etc.

...Are all things I look for in a trustworthy trader.

But to be honest, I'd never trust anyone on Sythe forums unless they're one of the few staff I've worked with. Even then, I see no need to ever go first, and still don't understand why people don't break payments into increments.
 
Alright, lets take Gohan for example. Notice he has 20k posts? Lets pretend he didn't have any vouches/wasn't a mod/was plain. Would you trust him JUST because a spam-whores Sythe?

Some people would because of his join date is a few years ago, some others wouldn't because he has absolutely no vouches.

I could be like 20 post count with 400 vouches. I'd trust someone with 400 vouches/20 post count rather than 3 vouches/20,000 post count any day.
You could go through the guy with 20 post count and see that most of his posts are quality 5 paragraph posts.

^ He makes a good point, market moderator or not. I would trust Gohan with or without vouches, due to his post-count. I assure you post count is a trust factor to some degree, but it's not enough to make or break a trade.
 
i dont really get scammed and i almost exclusively look at vouches.

i say 25+ vouches and they've done trades bigger than the one you're doing and you should be safe.

if someone has a few hundred dollars in sales or purchases (at least) and you're making a $25 trade, they have 30 vouches etc.... they're safe to trust >usually<

and never ever ever............ EVER trust unverified paypals. they just do it so they can scam. >usually<
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