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I generally think Philosophy is useless and has always been a subject for aristocratic patricians. I think philosophers in general need to get their heads out of their pretentious, ideological sandpits. I find debating the existence of the flesh on your arm utterly futile. It doesn't matter if you conclude its existence, inexistence or ambivalence of existence. You're still going to have to deal with it. That is my position: that philosophy is overwhelmingly worthless - it merely makes assertions that are unnecessary and change nothing.

Good point, but some people just like asking questions. It's like those kinds of math that you learn in school that have no realistic applications but still get your mind thinking more efficiently.
 
Good point, but some people just like asking questions. It's like those kinds of math that you learn in school that have no realistic applications but still get your mind thinking more efficiently.

People spend too much time just asking and not enough time answering. :laugh:
 
I generally think Philosophy is useless and has always been a subject for aristocratic patricians. I think philosophers in general need to get their heads out of their pretentious, ideological sandpits. I find debating the existence of the flesh on your arm utterly futile. It doesn't matter if you conclude its existence, inexistence or ambivalence of existence. You're still going to have to deal with it. That is my position: that philosophy is overwhelmingly worthless - it merely makes assertions that are unnecessary and change nothing.

Couldn't have said it better my self, literally. :p
 
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Philosophy is just silly. People spend too much time on what if and not enough time on what is.

Your statement doesn't really belong in this section. Try spam or off topic?

I mean just on its face, the statement is incorrect. Philosophy is about what is (metaphysics), what might be (reason), and what should be (ethics).

Philosophy is just the application of reason to any thought or set of ideas. If this notion is silly to you then by definition you have no reason to be in the SFA.
 
Your statement doesn't really belong in this section. Try spam or off topic?

I mean just on its face, the statement is incorrect. Philosophy is about what is (metaphysics), what might be (reason), and what should be (ethics).

Philosophy is just the application of reason to any thought or set of ideas. If this notion is silly to you then by definition you have no reason to be in the SFA.


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Philosophy does not waste time btw. It just helps people to make better decisions
 
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I'm mainly emphasizing this area of philosophy. Too much time spent on what might be, and not enough on what is.

Science is a sub-discipline of philosophy which focuses on what is. Are you saying there are more resources dedicated to other philosophy than to science?
 
Science is a sub-discipline of philosophy which focuses on what is. Are you saying there are more resources dedicated to other philosophy than to science?

The human mind can go on wondering about what is for eternity, it never ends. Science is limited to us because once you find out something is something, it will be that something and there is no room for "maybe it's something else."

I dislike the concept of philosophy mainly because it is a time waster, i.e. maybe there are aliens and maybe they are this and that. Instead of talking about maybe or what could be, you take what is and study and focus on that.
 
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The human mind can go on wondering about what is for eternity, it never ends. Science is limited to us because once you find out something is something, it will be that something and there is no room for "maybe it's something else."

This is not how science works.

I dislike the concept of philosophy mainly because it is a time waster, i.e. maybe there are aliens and maybe they are this and that. Instead of talking about maybe or what could be, you take what is and study and focus on that.

You are making a philosophical argument against philosophy. To be consistent with your position you would have to not post here.
 
This is not how science works.



You are making a philosophical argument against philosophy. To be consistent with your position you would have to not post here.

I'm talking about what is.

@ The science thing: Once they figured out h2o is h2o, it didn't become something else unless they added something to it.
 
Philosophy is what structures everything in modern day culture in society, without it there would be no religion, no science and no genuine curiosity about the world around you.

After reading a few threads through on the SFA forums, I've gathered that you're follow the path of Islam (correct me if I'm wrong) and without philosophy, there would be no Islam as people would not think and consider possibilities and think up theories and arguments.

They are guesses based on more guesses.

That would be philosophy at it's lowest and it does go on, yes. But philosophy in general consists of opinions that are based around factual information.
 
Philosophy is the meaning of life. It is the most awesome thing, and most important. I can't explain any better, cos my english isn't good enough for that.

(Okay lol that meanin of life thing was maybe little too much, but still, philosphy is very important thing. you, who say it isn't important 1) don't know bout it 2) you're stupid 3) you just don't seem to care bout it, which is a pity :<)
 
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I'm talking about what is.

@ The science thing: Once they figured out h2o is h2o, it didn't become something else unless they added something to it.


No, you're saying that it should be the case that people not talk about what should be.

You don't see a contradiction here?
 
H2o is h2o, not "it should be h2o."

...what?

The should be part is based on making conclusions about the unknown based on given facts. I think that that method is probably the most effective in making conclusions...
 
...what?

The should be part is based on making conclusions about the unknown based on given facts. I think that that method is probably the most effective in making conclusions...

I was originally talking about what if, not what should be.
 
I was originally talking about what if, not what should be.

There is no what if. As sythe said there's What Is (given facts) and What Should Be (events that ought to be coherent with the given facts).
 
There is no what if. As sythe said there's What Is (given facts) and What Should Be (events that ought to be coherent with the given facts).

So you're saying that no philosophy is based on what if this or what if that? Everything is based on facts?
 
So you're saying that no philosophy is based on what if this or what if that? Everything is based on facts?
Of course that's how an argument begins, then you bring the facts into the argument to see if it's head is still above the water.
 
So you're saying that no philosophy is based on what if this or what if that? Everything is based on facts?

You have clearly never taken a course on Philosophy.

If you want a real joke in the name of science in medicine, look at Psychology.

Philosophy has its practical applications, and is even the starting blocks of the Scientific Method which is used to evaluate and place our simplest to our most complex hypothesis, theories and laws. (The first two steps of the Scientific Method could be considered heavy in areas of Philosophy)
 
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