No reason given for ban ?

[Unregistered - pkpkpk]

Account name: pkpkpk

Hey mods, I used to use Sythe many years ago, mainly selling signatures and occasionally accounts. I had a good record and then randomly got banned and no reason was given. I think I've actually tried to appeal before but there wasn't a system set up before. There is no reason why I am banned and I'm looking at getting into OSRS since its been brought back and that's what I enjoyed playing. I'd rather pick up my old account than start a new one here on Sythe as that seems rather pointless. Anyways, if there are any further questions that would help this process let me know. Thanks!

 

[Dave]

http://ww2.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1108267-hoping-get-someone-hear-me-out.html
http://sythe.org/dispute-forum-arch...ithin-first-month-no-answer-not-my-fault.html

I'm gonna PM FireZ, Govind, and n4n0, hopefully they'll remember something about you

 

[FireZ]

I remember him but nothing about his case

 

[Shin]

Surely you had some sort of interaction with Pen so you could have extrapolated the reason for your ban. Is this really not the case?

I don't see a staff member clicking on a random profile and banning them. There has to be some sort of backstory in regards to your relationship with Pen, whatever that may have been.

 

[Shin]

No response.

 

[unregistered response]

I made this appeal last week: http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1900869-no-reason-given-ban.html

It wouldn't let me reply to the thread, so I added and messaged both Shin and Dave on Skype, and allowed a couple days for them to get back with me... neither of them did.

To Shin on Saturday, 11/14 @ 8:10 AM: Hey Shin, sorry to bother you on Skype but I'm trying to figure out how to reply to a thread in the dispute section without signing in, I see that other people do it but when I click to reply it asks me to log in. I want to respond to what you said but cant. thanks!

To Dave on Saturday 11/14 @ 9:23 PM: Hey Dave, sorry to bother you on Skype about this, I reached out to Shin about 12 hours ago but never got a response. I made a post in the dispute sub forum but I'm having trouble replying to it... I've noticed that in other threads people have replied to their threads but it keeps asking me to sign in.

My thread was then closed on 11/15 with Shin who said:

No response.

I wanted to reply but it wouldn't let me unless I logged in, which wouldn't have worked. I couldn't figure out how the other people did that. Anyways, to respond to Shin's original comment on my thread:

Surely you had some sort of interaction with Pen so you could have extrapolated the reason for your ban. Is this really not the case?

I don't see a staff member clicking on a random profile and banning them. There has to be some sort of backstory in regards to your relationship with Pen, whatever that may have been.

I remember Pen being important on Sythe but had NO connection or personal relationship with Pen. I did not know him/her outside of the forum and I have NO idea why he/she banned me. I did frequent the opinion threads here so the only thing I can think of is that he/she didn't like something that I said. It's insane that this ban is still active considering there wasn't as much as a dispute against my account or anything. There was no case, trial, nothing. There was zero explanation. You can check my previous posts, nothing has ever been brought to the table and I don't know why that isn't setting off alarms for anyone else. I don't know what else to say to you other than that... This is definitely the last time I will try to recover my account considering I have nothing else to say. Tell me why I'm banned, bring up something I did, show me a dispute against my account... why is there nothing? Why did he/she disappear right after he/she banned me? I don't know! I don't know this person... do you?

 

[video]

Hey sorry for any confusion, in order to reply to a dispute thread you just have to make a new thread with your response and a moderator will automatically merge it in (like I've done here). I've reopened this since you have returned with answers

 

[Shin]

I don't recall receiving that message, so you must have messaged my public Skype which I haven't been on for about a week now. My apologies.

Hey sorry for any confusion, in order to reply to a dispute thread you just have to make a new thread with your response and a moderator will automatically merge it in (like I've done here). I've reopened this since you have returned with answers

This is all you need to do. Sorry for the delay.

 

[Unregistered - pkpkpk]

My bad, never realized they would be merged. Is there anything else I should add to this? I would try to look through my posts to see any type of interactions with Pen but I can't do that without an account.

 

[Unregistered - pkpkpk]

I don't mean to be rude but, this thread is going on 3 weeks old :/ ? Is there a current status? (You don't have to actually merge this, it just seems like the thread is dying)

 

[FireZ]

We have nothing to go on

 

[Unregistered - pkpkpk]

We have nothing to go on

I know you have nothing to go on, because there -is- nothing. I really don't know what else you expect me to say.

I decided to come back to make my final appeal after I read this post:

The primary goal of the staff at Sythe.org is to ensure that our users are satisfied with this site. This is reflected in our work, which includes banning scammers, deleting inappropriate materal, and cleaning up after ourselves, our colleagues, and our former colleagues.
I've been a member of this site since the day it started, and a member of staff longer than most of the staff that have come and gone over the years. Naturally, I view it as my duty to reverse the way that, over the past few years, so many people have been banned from this site or otherwise excluded from this community, for reasons that are not warranted per our official rules, for no reason other than that they were personally disliked by the staff.

I want to apologize on behalf of Sythe.org to those members who were punished and/or ostracized from this community for personal dislike, unfair reasons or absolutely no reason at all.

If you were banned or had your account deleted for such vague reasons as being "sinister", "a shady character" or "an undesirable", or for association with the same, regardless of how long ago, you are encouraged to post a dispute of the following format:


We encourage users who are still in contact with members whom they feel were wrongfully banned or deleted to inform them of the restitution we are offering. Obviously, this only refers to clearly unwarranted bans/deletions - if someone was banned for scamming or account recovery, for example, then they are not entitled to restitution.

Does anyone even uphold this? This situation is staring you in the face and you're asking for more evidence that I did nothing wrong... what is this? What else can I say.

 

[Superfluous]

managed to dig up two more old threads, neither of which explains this ban:

http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1355078-if-nothing-more-please-read.html
http://www.sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/1109457-banned-who-knows-what.html

 

[video]

This is a complete embarrassment to be honest, for 4+ years this guy has been disputing and he's been told to "just accept the ban" "you should have disputed sooner" and "I don't know why you're banned". We have a ban reason field for a reason, if this user deserves to be banned it's really pen's responsibility to include one. Oh and pen got banned for scamming himself so any argument of "He banned you so he must have had good reason" is completely invalid. It is entirely possible pen banned this kid for no reason at all.

With admin approval I'd like to see this user unbanned and let this be a lesson to everyone not to ban people while putting NOTHING in the ban field.

I'd also like to see proof that the person who made this dispute actually created the account pkpkpk and isn't a hacker. OP please make a new post with your registered email and previous locations used on sythe since your current IP doesn't match your old one

 

[Unregistered - pkpkpk]

I was wondering if there was anything else / if video saw my reply (it got removed).

 

[video]

I saw your reply, what you posted was accurate. Just waiting for an admin to weigh in on this

 

[Dave]

I suppose an unbanning is the only fair way to go about this, would like a second admins opinion. Though I suppose I'm fine with it

 

[Dave]

Got Richard's approval, he can be unbanned

 

[video]

#modscore http://sythe.org/dispute-forum-archive/956747-unknown-reason-being-banned.html oh and for what it's worth, pen was the one who archived your very first dispute the same month you were banned and he unsurprisingly didn't comment