Name sniping

[Saphir Dice]

If I got that name and I dont want snipe,so whats then? I'm Scammer?

 

[T V]

I might have exaggerated it a bit on them being "trustworthy and loyal", but I believe O_R_L_Y and someone else (forgot their name) who were both pretty well known sythers were both banned for sniping names.

Why did this happen when there isn't a rule against it?

Yes, he says 'sniping in general' isn't against the rules, but this is the whole reason why there needs to be a clearer definition for what sniping actually is (In terms of Display Names).

 

[fpla]

Yes, he says 'sniping in general' isn't against the rules, but this is the whole reason why there needs to be a clearer definition for what sniping actually is (In terms of Display Names).

May I see that whole thread please?

 

[T V]

May I see that whole thread please?

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1130229

 

[Austinsmilee]

http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1130229

After reading this whole thread, I really beileve that O_R_L_Y should be unbanned. If his argument would have been more consiese, he probably would have won.

He should have made a bigger deal about Sniping vs. Avaliable Username. The root of his innocence is that they need to provide evidence that the name was indeed sniped. Otherwise O_R_L_Y just created a new runescape account- and the name "6" happened to be avaliable.

Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

 

[T V]

After reading this whole thread, I really beileve that O_R_L_Y should be unbanned. If his argument would have been more consiese, he probably would have won.

He should have made a bigger deal about Sniping vs. Avaliable Username. The root of his innocence is that they need to provide evidence that the name was indeed sniped. Otherwise O_R_L_Y just created a new runescape account- and the name "6" happened to be avaliable.

Innocent until proven guilty, not the other way around.

It's pretty well known that he stole 6 while the owner tried to transfer... even ORLY himself has admitted to it and openly talks about it lol

And this is getting off-topic. This thread wasn't created to discuss ORLY's ban.

 

[SuF]

I think this sums up the issue really nicely, to be honest.

 

[ARTICx]

If people still debate on wether he should banned or not I don't think It sums it up...

 

[Duly]

To be honest your right, although i dont like the fact people stack names at all but yeah "sniping" is scammer to a certain extent i guess...

 

[T V]

I realize it's been added to the Sythe.org Rules, but I still think there lacks a clear definition.

 

[SuF]

I realize it's been added to the Sythe.org Rules, but I still think there lacks a clear definition.

What would you like it to say?

 

[T V]

What would you like it to say?

Sniping - taking a name that was intended to be sold/transferred.

 

[SuF]

• Scamming: or any suspicious behavior similar to scamming or counter-scamming (i.e. attempting to scam). This also includes:
  • Impersonating other members, posting vouches for yourself with other accounts, and any other similar behavior.
  • Impersonating ranks through the use of your signature.
  • Name Sniping - knowingly taking a Runescape display name that was intended to be sold/transferred

Like that?

 

[Karl]

Like that?

... No thanks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS

I'd rather not give people the impression that they could get away with sniping mid trade, IMO, just keep it at it is so people who know what is it they're doing, is wrong.

 

[T V]

... No thanks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:BEANS

I'd rather not give people the impression that they could get away with sniping mid trade, IMO, just keep it at it is so people who know what is it they're doing, is wrong.

Sounds good to me.

This thread can be locked now ^_^

 

[ARTICx]

If the name is not sold on Sythe is it still a ban if you snipe it?

 

[Salesman2525]

Apparently the definition is becoming pretty blurred.

Prior to the release of unused display names last November-February, a few other friends and I had already been collecting display names some time. What we would do is add random words/names like 'Melt', 'Muk', 'Silence', etc., to our ignore lists and when we found one that had changed its name, we would keep it added. When we noticed it either lost its name-change icon or the owner changed their name to something else, we'd take the previous name if it was still available. Never did we refer to this as 'sniping'. In fact, there really wasn't any way to 'snipe' a name back then; you pretty much just had to get lucky and catch the name if you happened to notice it became available.

However, after the releases, the term 'sniping' started to get thrown around as both a form of scamming and a regular means of obtaining a display name. Generally, when I take a new display name, I don't say I "sniped" it, because I myself associate the word with scamming (for the record, I think if you steal a display name you know is being transferred/sold, that should be considered a form of scamming, regardless of what the internet defines it as). Every name I've never taken was either systematically released by Jagex, or entirely disowned by the previous owner.

To "snipe" is to literally hide and wait to take down a target; you're expecting the target, and know the precise moment it will enter your cross-heirs. During the name releases, although you could know the order in which names were going to be released, there was no way of knowing for sure when it was going to be released (sometimes Jagex would pause for a couple minutes or up to a few hours) or if it was going to be released at all (some names would be randomly skipped). Again, you had to get lucky to get the name before anyone else did. I could understand why this could be considered sniping. However, Jagex hasn't released a single name in over 5 months, so the only "sniping" that can be done is on names being sold/transferred.

That's what I feel separates "name sniping" from regular name taking, especially in terms of Name Sales. If you watch a name being sold with the intent of stealing it, and successfully do so, you should be banned. You didn't just casually notice it was available; you had every intent to steal a name you knew was being sold or transferred from owner-to-owner.


tl;dr Sniping should = stealing, which should = ban.

There isn't really anyway to 100% prove the name was sniped, so meh. It's confusing.

 

[Rsc Addiction]

agree