You both are missing the point. Calling me an "e-whore" is only the tip of the iceberg because you were also talking about the Admin. (According to Sythe himself, the no shit taken policy is in effect.) Also, he didn't admit to giving me special treatment. He admitted that his actions were inappropriate in the event. As for you having no personal issues, then you should have not used any derogatory descriptions about either party in your comments, especially when an Admin is of concern. If you are really taking the "no personal issue" side of things then redirect the person asking about what happened to the Admin himself instead of stirring up old shit to cause drama in the SF. For the most part everyone, including myself, are trying to let bygones be bygones. Him enforcing the "no shit taken" policy is within his right, and it's not to be mistaken as him being power abusive. Lastly, Roary handled all of the bans since N4N0 didn't want to be the major influence on the decision making process of those who got banned. It was a professional decision he made and it was the right one.
Clearly, you took
NOTHING from what he said here.
http://www.sythe.org/12992716-post1.html
Okay firstly, my posts are supposed to be my thoughts and feedback for N4N0. I've appreciated what he has done for the site and acknowledged that, and have gone on to make the points which
PERSONALLY, have been his downfalls; the purpose of these threads.
Now breaking down your argument:
You both are missing the point. Calling me an "e-whore" is only the tip of the iceberg because you were also talking about the Admin. (According to Sythe himself, the no shit taken policy is in effect.)
My post was trash talking at YOU. Not N4N0. Looking back at his previous feedback thread I gave him very, very good feedback, because before you arrived in the whole scenario, he was my favorite staff member. My post was directed at YOU. As for the 'No Shit Taking Policy' (I can't actually read it as I'm SF banned so am going on memory), it was introduced at a time when you were not active to see what was happening in the Spam Forum. An Admin or Mod would post and would get abused/trolled extensively, to a point where something DID need to be done. My post was not aimed at N4N0, nor did I bring his integrity into it in that post, only in this feedback section. You say he doesn't give or hasn't admitted to giving you special treatment, but look at this quote:
There's a difference between trolling and going out of your way to insult not only a member, but my girlfriend,[/B] by calling them "An ewhore who sucked my my dick" plus more.
That's the only point I was making there, which he has basically admitted to. He acted differently and more defensively because you are his girlfriend. You are NOT part of the 'No Shit Taking Policy', as you are not a member of staff. If you were then my actions were out of line and I would be apologizing right now, not composing an essay in defense of my views.
As for you having no personal issues, then you should have not used any derogatory descriptions about either party in your comments, especially when an Admin is of concern
1. My comment was not aimed at or derogatory in any way towards N4N0, not breaking any rules.
2. If you honestly expect people to be sincere and polite in the Spam Forum, then you are completely deluded. I don't think I need to bother finding a number of spiteful posts from the Spam Forum to use in evidence of my argument as they are everywhere. I call my best friends on here horrible derogatory things, that's personal, it's just whether the user understands the section it has been posted in and there is no real intent there.
For the most part everyone, including myself, are trying to let bygones be bygones.
Fair enough. However the post I was Spam Forum banned for was just telling a user who had no idea what had happened, what happened.
Him enforcing the "no shit taken" policy is within his right, and it's not to be mistaken as him being power abusive. Lastly, Roary handled all of the bans since N4N0 didn't want to be the major influence on the decision making process of those who got banned.
I had a month ban given to me by Roary and I said that's fine, I deserve it, and took it on the chin. No complaints. I have moaned about my most recent Spam Forum ban, which was given to me by N4N0, not Roary. He can enforce the 'No Shit Taking Policy', sure, and I encourage him to do so... when it's actually relevant. Once again my post was at you, not him. Nothing in my post was derogatory about N4N0 himself, therefore I have not done anything to bring the policy into action.
Clearly, you took
NOTHING from what he said here.
http://www.sythe.org/12992716-post1.html
Don't think you realize, I was banned for a month. I have not seen this post until now. So no, I haven't taken anything from it as I couldn't view it before. He apologized for his actions, as did I when I got my ban for a month. Seems about fair there. N4N0 said Nodasurburn was unbanned as he apologized, however I won't as in THIS instance I don't feel my ban was just. My dispute was overlooked and deleted, and I had no way to get a fair trial.
In response to this, the Spam Forum was never a place where you could say whatever you wanted about Administrators of the site without consequences. Richard (Sythe) used to ban people all the time for personal attacks. Yes, you have freedom of speech and all that but this is a private site, administrators like N4N0 are humans are our always going to look out for their friends.
As stated in my reply to Trin, my posts were not an attack on N4N0 or any staff member for that matter. I understand that in doing so it warrants a ban. I never blamed N4N0, I blamed Trin for her conduct, therefore I didn't break any rules.
Life has special treatment happening everywhere you look, I think it takes a lot of courage admit that emotions affected his judgment. I will admit Trin probably gets treated differently but it’s not because N4N0 dating her or whatever, it because he knows her in real life.
Just want to refer you to this quote:
There's a difference between trolling and going out of your way to insult not only a member, but my girlfriend,[/B] by calling them "An ewhore who sucked my my dick" plus more.
Therefore his reasoning was that he reacted more as it was personal agenda based and he was her girlfriend. He also publicly apologized for some of his special treatment in the run up to the events which took place, which I very much appreciate.
Also, his response to this situation has been more than professional. He passing off judgment to stop the unfair treatment bitchaton but he doesn’t have to Richard won’t put up with this shit (from past experience) why should N4N0 have too?
Agreed. It has been handled well by him and I hadn't been able to read his public apology until just now, so I can appreciate that fully. However I have not questioned his integrity in the post I was banned for, it was aimed at Trin, and until it's added to the rules that trash talking at Trin is bannable, I fail to believe I am in the wrong. Alternatively just give her staff, so the policy covers her. She pretty much has whatever power she needs when she wants it anyways.
He does not, truthfully speaking I think ya’ll owe parties involved an apology. I know this is the internet but trolling is a waste of time, N4N0 offers his services and hour and hours of personal time to improve Sythe experience for others.
Never said he needs to. My critisizm of him was fuelled by being (What I deemed to be) unfairly banned, and having my dispute ignored and deleted. I did not give him negative feedback after my months ban, it was just. I have only given it after the latest instance as I felt it was unjust and the incorrect way of dealing with the situation. If he really got offended by my post (even though it wasn't aimed at him) or told me from now on I can't trash talk people or more notably Trin in the Spam Forum, he could have PM'd me. I would have had my warning from a superior and if I did something out of ine, then it's a warranted ban. But it wasn't.
If you think you can tell your bosses co-workers that his wife is a ***** then good luck keeping your job and avoiding lawsuits
This made me laugh a bit.
1. It's the internet.
2. More notably, the spam forum and it was trash talking
3. The fact that admins are referred to as 'bosses' and friends on the site as 'co-workers' made me laugh. I'm not paid to be here, nor am I working, nor would I refer either in those respective lights.
Sythe isn’t much different the forum works on respect and bad mouthing doesn’t get you anywhere.
Not planning on going anywhere in all honestly. The main purpose of this was to try to shed my view that I believe my Spam Forum was was not warranted, and this is almost acting like the dispute that was never looked at.
N4N0 accepts constructive comments and will admit he makes mistakes but in this case I don’t think he made any mistakes.
Not sure if we are talking about the same thing still? I'm talking about what I was Spam Forum banned for, not previous incidents or his conduct there. I've commented that the way my ban was given to me, the fact that my dispute didn't even get a fair trial, or a review of any sort, and that it was all fueled on a personal agenda, is what I was giving him feedback for.
N4N0, take a few days off buddy if you need it but please don’t leave us
He won't leave and I'm not calling for his head. Just can't see justification behind my Spam Forum ban when no rules were broken.
From now on please can this remain as feedback for N4N0? I would still much appreciate a response on my last 2 posts N4N0, but from you, preferably... after all this is between us and I have explained myself as much as possible in this thread and how I can not see what I am guilty of doing.
Many thanks for reading.
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