Skyline GTR
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he did release the update earlier today
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robotzindisguise
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Nobody's ever even got a 10 black mark ban. There was around 10 people bot busted and the max ban was 5 black marks, of course when there are over 100 people online at any given time of the day, many people do over-use and it's easy to get half a black mark and temp ban if you do, but that's not anything to do with the bot - people are informed of what's sensible. There was even around 100 online during bot-busting and relatively very few got caught.
I do sympathise with mods that it's not easy (about 3 of those had 5+ black marks already for various other offenses, and from being bot-busted, lost their account) to deal with or moderate people who are upset etc, but it should also be clear from those threads with screenies of J-Mods that the 5 black mark bans were from bot-busting (rather than detectability) and as soon as we knew what J-Mods were doing, we let people know and gave advice, although the risk of running into a J-Mod is statistically low. I don't think anyone who's used my bot for a significant amount of time would call it detectible, in the same way I don't think people who've never used my bot should make judgement from hear-say. For example, we investigated the one person who started a thread complaining of a perm ban in these forums, it turned out he had around 6-7 other offenses on his account and his ban from being bot-busted only contributed 5 of his 13.8 black marks. These people may be upset etc and complain and blame the bot, but it's true that despite recent bot busting (which will not happen again now that code for auto-talker has been moved entirely server-side) the number of people with 99 magic outweighs the number of bans several times over, and the number of 10 black mark (the regular ban for autoing) bans from Magic Training 2 is zero.
I suspect more will complain about the thread closing - especially if your reason is because of bans.
Ironic that because the thread is closed, people will not know the new version with auto-talker source code removed from the client (the vulnerability with the old one) was released yesterday. Until my copy of flash cs3 arrives on Monday I can't update my site so I was hoping to inform people via the thread.
It means people may continue using the old one with the vulnerabilty, not realising there's been a fix, meaning that by closing the thread, you've increased the risk of people getting bans (although I suspect J-Mods have stopped bot-busting now anyway). All in all, I hope you will reconsider before the poll closes.
We always try our best, and the few who were bot-busted have all been given the option of enough free time to get 99 magic (if they wish to). I've already updated the bot and it seems Jagex have stopped bot-busting since there's not been more 5 black mark bans recently, but what I'll do for now is update the parts of the site that aren't flash based, inform people via their RID clients there is a new version, deactivate the old one, and if you have any questions, send via e-mail.
Thanks
I do sympathise with mods that it's not easy (about 3 of those had 5+ black marks already for various other offenses, and from being bot-busted, lost their account) to deal with or moderate people who are upset etc, but it should also be clear from those threads with screenies of J-Mods that the 5 black mark bans were from bot-busting (rather than detectability) and as soon as we knew what J-Mods were doing, we let people know and gave advice, although the risk of running into a J-Mod is statistically low. I don't think anyone who's used my bot for a significant amount of time would call it detectible, in the same way I don't think people who've never used my bot should make judgement from hear-say. For example, we investigated the one person who started a thread complaining of a perm ban in these forums, it turned out he had around 6-7 other offenses on his account and his ban from being bot-busted only contributed 5 of his 13.8 black marks. These people may be upset etc and complain and blame the bot, but it's true that despite recent bot busting (which will not happen again now that code for auto-talker has been moved entirely server-side) the number of people with 99 magic outweighs the number of bans several times over, and the number of 10 black mark (the regular ban for autoing) bans from Magic Training 2 is zero.
I suspect more will complain about the thread closing - especially if your reason is because of bans.
Ironic that because the thread is closed, people will not know the new version with auto-talker source code removed from the client (the vulnerability with the old one) was released yesterday. Until my copy of flash cs3 arrives on Monday I can't update my site so I was hoping to inform people via the thread.
It means people may continue using the old one with the vulnerabilty, not realising there's been a fix, meaning that by closing the thread, you've increased the risk of people getting bans (although I suspect J-Mods have stopped bot-busting now anyway). All in all, I hope you will reconsider before the poll closes.
We always try our best, and the few who were bot-busted have all been given the option of enough free time to get 99 magic (if they wish to). I've already updated the bot and it seems Jagex have stopped bot-busting since there's not been more 5 black mark bans recently, but what I'll do for now is update the parts of the site that aren't flash based, inform people via their RID clients there is a new version, deactivate the old one, and if you have any questions, send via e-mail.
Thanks
Skyline GTR
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you release a new update today but all it did was sit their why was that?
Go robotz!!!
Bring back the MTA thread! Closing it just because of bans is just dumb. I got banned myself with 5 blackmarks and im not here complaining. I understood the risks involved in using the bot, i folowed suggestions but failed to see that people were getting banned for having the auto-talker on. It was ME that failed to check the mta thread and i kept using the bot.
Without the thread no one will be able to check out how the bot is improving, how robotz is going to update it, when new bots will come out, how people are getting caught, what new settings to use, what is suggested to buy with points, etc, etc.
BRING THE THREAD BACK!!!
Bring back the MTA thread! Closing it just because of bans is just dumb. I got banned myself with 5 blackmarks and im not here complaining. I understood the risks involved in using the bot, i folowed suggestions but failed to see that people were getting banned for having the auto-talker on. It was ME that failed to check the mta thread and i kept using the bot.
Without the thread no one will be able to check out how the bot is improving, how robotz is going to update it, when new bots will come out, how people are getting caught, what new settings to use, what is suggested to buy with points, etc, etc.
BRING THE THREAD BACK!!!
robotzindisguise
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If you have a prob with update, check your settings, make sure you've not got anything typed in chat (which activates emergency stop) then if it still doesn't work send a screenshot of your RS screen to [email protected]
Hello,
I've heard you were having some problems etc with setting up your forums, I'm wondering if I can start an Invision powerboard, for everyone to post their problems rants and bugs this will clear up sythe's Cheating section and your thread aswell.
[email protected] if you want to discuss anything further.
robotzindisguise
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2.08
The site will still say 2.07 until my copy of flash cs3 arrives Monday, but the download is 2.08
Skyline GTR
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i sent off an email to you cause it didnt work and a pm
robotzindisguise
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Yes lol. Just to highlight my point earlier, Xtream has what over 20M mage Xp from using the bot since version 1 and zero black marks, but if there's a couple of bans everyone hears about that.
No, I've been very busy the past few days (and my workload just increased) but now the new version is done, I will have time to go through my e-mails later today. Sorry for the delay
I was busted from using the mta bot, got 5 blackmarks and never got this option
robotzindisguise, I have no clue on how java works. But perhaps it may be a wise idea to apply some sort of news system into your bot. Therefore you could warn people of such things when they open the bot.
Just a thought.
Just a thought.
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I had the same problem. I downloaded the 2.08 version and it logged in and just sat there.
Maybe at the time there was a problem with the server or something since you had just released it.
I'll try it again today.
edit: Sigh, deleting that thread has put me down to five posts....
Maybe I should hang out on other areas of this site as well
robotzindisguise
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I was busted from using the mta bot, got 5 blackmarks and never got this option
You have this option if the 5 black marks tipped you over 10 black marks and you've used final appeal. If so send log-in details to [email protected] and you can get a new account with 99 magic within a few months.
Yeah I agree. I don't think there will be more bot busting now that code for the talker is secured, however it would have helped a lot if I'd been able to warn people, and so not to underestimate Jagex I plan to add this incase anything similar happens again. Thanks for the suggestion
Triggerfinger
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The only reason people were getting banned is because they cannot be bothered to read back a few pages and check on the latest info. Robotz specifically said that botting should be reduced significantly because of Mods staking out in the MTA because of the autotalker being released to Jagex. So, by talking to us botters they could figure out we were botting by the way we responded. So, with that in mind Robotz said to turn the autotalker off and only bot in tele to be 99% safe. But of course, there are morons who do not read these forums and just bot all the time because they think they are safe. So, in retrospect, the people who are getting banned deserve it because they cannot be bothered to read and/or follow simple suggestions by the creator of the friggen bot!
Please bring back the MTA thread, when Robotz gets the other update out with new mouse movements and a new server hosted autotalker, things will be better for all.
Never mind the whining homo's who think they deserve a refund or that Robotz in trying to screw them. They are just immature and deserve to be banned if they cannot follow RID instructions.
Bring back the MTA forum.
Please bring back the MTA thread, when Robotz gets the other update out with new mouse movements and a new server hosted autotalker, things will be better for all.
Never mind the whining homo's who think they deserve a refund or that Robotz in trying to screw them. They are just immature and deserve to be banned if they cannot follow RID instructions.
Bring back the MTA forum.
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