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Roger Gracie ground game > King Mo ground game. He will wreck him on the ground. Mo hasnt fought a bjj guy close to his league.

The thing is most wrestlers know how to stifle submissions.
Just keep the weight on your opponent and dont do anything. The BJJ guys are basically unable to do much.

Watch how Lesnar just prevent Mir from doing anything the second fight.

Mos a big dude, he can do it.
 
The thing is most wrestlers know how to stifle submissions.
Just keep the weight on your opponent and dont do anything. The BJJ guys are basically unable to do much.

Watch how Lesnar just prevent Mir from doing anything the second fight.

Mos a big dude, he can do it.

Again though, your talking about arguably the best grappler in mma. Trevor Prangley has been around a lot longer than King Mo, and is a good fighter and he manhandeled him.
I personally still think Mirs bjj is overrated. He subbed lesnar in his secnod pro fight, choked out a clearly rocked kongo, broke sylvias arm(ouch), subbed tank abott and hardonk. Not ground guys there at all.
 
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Again though, your talking about arguably the best grappler in mma. Trevor Prangley has been around a lot longer than King Mo, and is a good fighter and he manhandeled him.
I personally still think Mirs bjj is overrated. He subbed lesnar in his secnod pro fight, choked out a clearly rocked kongo, broke sylvias arm(ouch), subbed tank abott and hardonk. Not ground guys there at all.

Well i agree with that. Mo's still new and rising.
Im going to hold my horses on Gracie tho. I still wanna see if he can commit to MMA and do well in it. At LHW almost everyone can punch anyone's head off if hit directly. Except maybe pillowfist Couture.

Babalu will be a good fight considering Roger took little to no damage and could fight in another month.
 
Well i agree with that. Mo's still new and rising.
Im going to hold my horses on Gracie tho. I still wanna see if he can commit to MMA and do well in it. At LHW almost everyone can punch anyone's head off if hit directly. Except maybe pillowfist Couture.

Babalu will be a good fight considering Roger took little to no damage and could fight in another month.

Do you hate couture? Just wondering.
Gracie will be strikeforce champion next year if he fights often enough.
I think babalu will give him a tough test, but I think Gracie will sub him by rnc in rd 2.
 
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Do you hate couture? Just wondering.
Gracie will be strikeforce champion next year if he fights often enough.
I think babalu will give him a tough test, but I think Gracie will sub him by rnc in rd 2.

I actually like Couture. I just think hes pillowfisted atm.
Hmm, i would believe at rd2-3.
How will he match vs Henderson?
 
I actually like Couture. I just think hes pillowfisted atm.
Hmm, i would believe at rd2-3.
How will he match vs Henderson?

He is 48 so that he is still in the upper tier in the arguably toughest division in the best promotion in the world is a testament.
I think he could beat hendo. Hendo has been subbed three times: By anderson, and both nog brothers. Gracie bjj> theres.
 
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He is 48 so that he is still in the upper tier in the arguably toughest division in the best promotion in the world is a testament.
I think he could beat hendo. Hendo has been subbed three times: By anderson, and both nog brothers. Gracie bjj> theres.

Well the thing is Silva sub'd him when he got hurt. Just like what Penn did to Huges their first fight.
How well is Gracie's striking? and has his chin been tested?

And LHW is the most dangerous division right now.
 
Well the thing is Silva sub'd him when he got hurt. Just like what Penn did to Huges their first fight.
How well is Gracie's striking? and has his chin been tested?

And LHW is the most dangerous division right now.

His chin hasnt been tested yet, but he has been hit before. I think he has a solid chin.
Gracie striking is raw, and he does have a good reach 79'' i think.
 
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His chin hasnt been tested yet, but he has been hit before. I think he has a solid chin.
Gracie striking is raw, and he does have a good reach 79'' i think.

79 " inch reach is great, well hopefully Roger gets his striking better.

I like seeing top level Jiu Jutsu guys with amazing striking. Why?

Well it makes the other fighter think twice about takedowns.
 
79 " inch reach is great, well hopefully Roger gets his striking better.

I like seeing top level Jiu Jutsu guys with amazing striking. Why?

Well it makes the other fighter think twice about takedowns.

He willl prob just work on it, if he is smart. His ground game is great, and he doesnt need to work on it at all.
 
Yeah, do what Koscheck did, work on the striking more than grappling.

Something Brock cant seem to learn to do even after 2 years.
Koscheck has been in mma a lot longer than lesnar.
Lesnar has power striking, he just dont like getting hit.

Bottom Line, Lesnar is a dick but the biggest strongest dick there is.

Lesnar= Biggest Draw in mma.
 
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Koscheck has been in mma a lot longer than lesnar.
Lesnar has power striking, he just dont like getting hit.



Lesnar= Biggest Draw in mma.

Lesnar doesn't like getting hit but he doesnt know how to counter-punch that well. He ate shots from Couture just fine, but against hard hitters like Cain/Carwin?Dos Santos, one punch could change the fight. Lesnar has to stop flinching and start eating a hit for a hit.

Next Gracie's striking looks like Daiz's to me. Not that powerful but just enough to annoy the opponent. I also have never seen many people transitioning to mount as fast and skilled as Gracie.
 
Lesnar doesn't like getting hit but he doesnt know how to counter-punch that well. He ate shots from Couture just fine, but against hard hitters like Cain/Carwin?Dos Santos, one punch could change the fight. Lesnar has to stop flinching and start eating a hit for a hit.

Next Gracie's striking looks like Daiz's to me. Not that powerful but just enough to annoy the opponent. I also have never seen many people transitioning to mount as fast and skilled as Gracie.

Lesnar is getting better, he needs to bring more strikers into his camp.
Gracie is the best grappler in mma arguably, so its only natural how good he is a passing and sweeping.
 
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Lesnar is getting better, he needs to bring more strikers into his camp.
Gracie is the best grappler in mma arguably, so its only natural how good he is a passing and sweeping.

He needs to work on his striking ALOT more. He needs a Freddy Roach.

I saw the fight with Ron Waterman, what was Ron thinking, taking Gracie down? Gracie must have had an orgasm when it happened.
 
He needs to work on his striking ALOT more. He needs a Freddy Roach.

I saw the fight with Ron Waterman, what was Ron thinking, taking Gracie down? Gracie must have had an orgasm when it happened.

Lol he thought he had better jj than gracie :laugh:
He needs to bring in better strikers to deathclutch.
 
AKA Freddy Roach :P, Or Mike Tyson so he could use all that muscle for something.

Ron Waterman deserves to lose just for thinking that, he barely has a JJ background lol.

He did a good step bringing in Pat Barry. Pat barry is an elite striker.
He needs to bring in horsemeat too though.
 
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