Minimum Trust Requirement for Account Sales

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I'll admit, this is going against what I believe are Sythe himself's policies on freedom to post threads etc. however, I think it's just gotten to a point where something needs to be done.

I can say without exaggeration, and I know that almost every other trusted middleman or market user can agree, that 95-99% of accounts sold are recovered within a month. If needed, I will present evidence to back this up, I'm hoping that this is a sort of "understood" fact but ask and you shall receive.

It's so bad that if I'm asked to mm a trade, I have to explain to the buyer "there is a 95% chance that the account you're buying will get taken back, do you want to proceed?" regardless, people seem to have some notion of "he seems trustworthy, so sure" or "it's a good price, I can't say no". Basically the buyers can't be trusted to pick safe sellers.

What I'm proposing is that there be some sort of requirement to even be able to list an account for sale on sythe. X # of vouches or something. Something that would at least make it seem like it's in the seller's interest not to scam.

Taking a look at the 100-138 mains section, you'll notice that almost half of the sellers joined within the past 30 days, others have a paltry number of vouches for training skills etc. Any account can be taken back at any time by its creator. I'll say that again since that seems to be a commonly-ignored fact. ANY ACCOUNT CAN BE TAKEN BACK AT ANY TIME BY ITS CREATOR, REGARDLESS IF RECOVERIES/EMAIL ARE REMOVED The kinds of sellers you often see in the marketplace don't exactly have incentive not to scam. They take 50m for their level 138 account, recover it the next day, create a new sythe account and relist the runescape account for sale. Wash, rinse, repeat.

As of now, it seems to just be accepted that account sales are risky, and most experienced traders looking to buy an account will steer toward trusted users. IMO, there are only a handful of people on this site whom I'd trust to sell an account (especially in light of Ricky and I Fatality I recovering all of their sold accounts).

In summary, it is too easy to scam through account sales, as any account can be taken back at any time. Many traders, new and experienced alike, get scammed by these kinds of sales, very very few account sales actually go through successfully. I'm proposing that there be some sort of minimum requirement in order to list accounts for sale.

Thanks for reading

 

[Lym]

I support this, It's sad to see so many people getting scammed but, do you have an ideas on what you can consider a "minimum trust" requirement?

Vouches aren't hard to obtain, post count isn't hard to obtain, so what would be considered trust?

 

[malakadang]

For me it comes down to this:

Does this site have a duty to abandon it's free-market style in pursuit of reducing scammers in a certain section.

OR

Is it the buyers responsibility to ensure they do their own research, and be held accountable and feel responsible for their own actions.

I do see EXACTLY where you are coming from, however, for me I think people should be held accountable for their own actions. There are countless stickies available, for all to see and they're not hard to locate. If the buyer cannot exercise their own discretion, and initiative before spending hundreds of dollars at times to notice the stickies, and realize themselves that accounts are recoverable, then it's their fault. We all acknowledge that, and it therefore comes back to the first two points above.

Also, as for the I fatality incident, regardless of whether he had sketchy trading habits and committed past transgressions, he was considered a trusted account seller by the majority of the Sythe populace, evident in the number of accounts people were willing to purchase from him. Surely a threshold under fatalities trustworthiness would not suffice for obvious reasons which I can go into if required. However, should the threshold be greater than I fatalities assumed trustworthiness, then who can sell accounts? How would this threshold work pragmatically?

 

[Dom]

Support, an account I had swapped had gotten recovered by the "original owner", and I wasn't told that he wasn't the original owner of the account.

 

[Stevothedevo]

Thanks Video for having the intestinal fortitude to say what a lot of people were thinking.
I support you 100%.

I believe this site has some sort of "duty of care". Sythe needs to be proactive not reactive.

Cheers

 

[FireZ]

This goes directly against a free trade market, and thats never going to go over well.

2ndly, its traders themselves responsibility to trade safely. We can't and won't tell you who to trust. Any account can be taken back at any time and you never know when a Ricky will come along.