In addition, for your own personal gain. Which makes the situation even worse.
Make luring a perm ban offense
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Your post is a bit off topic but if you see this could you provide a source? Didn't see anything like that on the homepage / I don't really play anymore.
No. Luring is part of the game and always has been. Not even Jagex ban for it (I doubt they'd care anyway). If you get lured, its your own fault. I even got lured once years ago.
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They ban for luring. Did you fully read OP? It's considered scamming and should be reported as it. They will ban you if caught in the act. They investigate your account and will ban/mute you depending on the severity.
You do not have to be stupid to get lured. It's part of the game? So is scamming. I've yet to see someone make a good rebuttal to my counter argument.
Looking at the state of the thread, doesn't look like any changes will be made.
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Similar to in many courts of law;
A conviction is generally characterized by the analysis of two main elements.
The actus reas: The guilty act
The mens rea: The guilty mind.
When looking at luring: The subject (victim) may not be aware of certain game mechanics, which in turn is their fault and may eventually put them at some sort of loss at some point. This isn't essential information because the focus for this situation is on the offender (lurer). Performing a lure is a very premeditated and planned attack with an effort to steal someone's goods; whether or not the victim is educated on how the mechanics work, the lurer has a clean intention to tactfully steal their goods.
Why wouldn't luring be a perm-bannable offensive if it's such a premeditated and though-out form of scamming? It's probably one of the dirtiest forms of scamming out there in my personal opinion.
What makes it worse is that normally a lot of social engineering is involved to build up to the scene of the crime. A lot of the time it comes at the cost of compromising a good friendship.
Game mechanics are game mechanics, they'll always be manipulated. The same way that users used to pull items out of trade boxes near the last second of the first confirmation screen to swap them out for cheaper items. From an unconfirmed source I heard that accounts were monitored that were frequently reported for "scamming", and when they performed this action under the presence of a J-mod, they were banned for the offense. Jagex later implemented several security updates for the way that the trade mechanics worked, however users were punished for manipulating it in the past.
A conviction is generally characterized by the analysis of two main elements.
The actus reas: The guilty act
The mens rea: The guilty mind.
When looking at luring: The subject (victim) may not be aware of certain game mechanics, which in turn is their fault and may eventually put them at some sort of loss at some point. This isn't essential information because the focus for this situation is on the offender (lurer). Performing a lure is a very premeditated and planned attack with an effort to steal someone's goods; whether or not the victim is educated on how the mechanics work, the lurer has a clean intention to tactfully steal their goods.
Why wouldn't luring be a perm-bannable offensive if it's such a premeditated and though-out form of scamming? It's probably one of the dirtiest forms of scamming out there in my personal opinion.
What makes it worse is that normally a lot of social engineering is involved to build up to the scene of the crime. A lot of the time it comes at the cost of compromising a good friendship.
Game mechanics are game mechanics, they'll always be manipulated. The same way that users used to pull items out of trade boxes near the last second of the first confirmation screen to swap them out for cheaper items. From an unconfirmed source I heard that accounts were monitored that were frequently reported for "scamming", and when they performed this action under the presence of a J-mod, they were banned for the offense. Jagex later implemented several security updates for the way that the trade mechanics worked, however users were punished for manipulating it in the past.
I prefer to have my nightmares with open eyes.
First, Jagex does ban for it and it is against the official rules.
Second, all that I get from you two is this: "If you get scammed its your own fault, why bother punishing the scammer" :/
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Either permently ban for luring or allow all types of social engineering that doesn't constitute theft of a monetary value
Either permently ban for luring or allow all types of social engineering that doesn't constitute theft of a monetary value
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It takes me to the point when I lured someone once for their rune armor and after I did it I felt SO bad. I tried to give it to back to her, but I had hopped worlds, and had no clue what her RSN was.
I took her items forcefully when she trusted me so much.(Scammed.)
It takes me to the point when I lured someone once for their rune armor and after I did it I felt SO bad. I tried to give it to back to her, but I had hopped worlds, and had no clue what her RSN was.
I took her items forcefully when she trusted me so much.(Scammed.)
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