Make luring a perm ban offense

It's already against the rules to lure Sythe.org members.

 

Yeah, to lure Sythe.org members using Sythe.org... but the discussion here is to not allow luring anyone, even if they do not have a Sythe account.

 

There hasn't been a case I remember when someone's reported someone for luring in a serious manner. All I'd be suggesting, if anything, is that luring discussion shouldn't be allowed or encouraged on Sythe.org. It encourages people to think that deceiving, social engineering and stealing is okay here, and it isn't.

I'll bring this up with staff or possibly Richard methinks.

 

Is luring a form of scamming?: Yes

Is there even enough activity on Sythe to make luring a ban-able offense?: No

 

They don't know they're going somewhere to risk losing their items, or give them away. No consent is given at all with regards to giving away their property, be it in the form of a gift, sale, or a bet.

 

Every player takes that risk no matter what... You can walk outside of the bank on RS and get a random, and die from the random event... did the person consent to let that happen? Yes. They gave consent by walking out of a safe area with their items.

Same thing goes when asked to follow another player. The person may not know where they are going, but they are bringing their items at their own will, and essentially giving consent by leaving the safe area.

 

"Bob is confused, angry, shocked and possibly depressed by this event."

Bob is easily manipulated, dumb, and learned his lesson.

It's not scamming if you bring your things to a place you can die in. You're just dumb.

No support.

 

I support, I believe luring is just another form of scamming.
this comes from me who once mined 20k PURE ESS by hand (2m) and got lured by the wilderness and died by a teleblock/ice barrage duo.

I was like 11 and I think i may have cried as it would have been my first 1-2m earned.

You should just shut your face. Newcomers on Sythe are also easy to manipulate and are dumb to trading ect. If we scam a newcomer is it okay because they are a "leecher"?

The vast majority of lures now adays are NOT leading people into the wilderness where you die. (Teletab scam ect).

You should really research lures before posting on this thread, mate, because you are terribly wrong.

 

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When I made a similar suggestion about staking glitches (which steal from your opponent 100% of the time and unfairly unlike luring) I was told that if there was any evidence of it involving sythe or happening through sythe that it could be considered for punishment, so I have to agree with Syed on this, that the same thing should be done for luring.

 

Again, if its wrong enough to be banned for where does it matter where it happens?

The least we can do is keep luring threads away from the website.

 

Just because you feel I'm wrong, doesn't mean you can insult me. I feel you're wrong, and I don't have an urge to insult you.

Correct, newcomer Sythe members are easily scammed - hence why I show them precautions for their next trade and to not instil faith into random people. Runescape has made way too many precautions to getting lured, and nobody who's "new" has something worth luring.

So you're just being silly because you got lured and have bad blood to anyone who will.

P.S - never have lured, but never have been lured. Because... come on now.

 

Never ever luring is fun why make it a perm ban.

 

The "game mechanic" excuse is bullshit. If someone is willing to deceive people online then they are willing to do so in real life. The items they SOCIAL ENGINEER are worth real money and are in turn traded on here for REAL money.

This "its jagex's problem" excuse is also bullshit, if we follow that same train of thought handling other scammers we would not be able to punish many (if any) of them.

Oh thats paypals problem ect

Offsite scamming is bannable, thats exactly what this is.

Im all for ending all luring discussion ect on it, it would be awful hard to prove a lure in most cases anyways so punishing it would be difficult. Allowing talk of it and even helping these people find partners to lure with sends the wrong message imo.

 

Newcomers lack the knowledge of others making them more vulnerable. Taking advantage of that is pretty sad when it comes down to it.

Never seen the fun in scamming someone for their belongings.

 

I'm confused, on Sythe or RS?

Because on RS - newcomers lack anything to steal.

On Sythe, yeah... that's a huge problem and we see it happen daily.

 

Not gonna make a huge post over this. No support, to me its so much more different than actually scamming someone. If I remember correctly Sythe was first only for cheating on Runescape and making luring a bannable offense is kind of contradictory. Go ape shit over what I think, I could care less. Just throwing in my 2 cents.

 

Luring isn't cheating, glitching is. You can get banned for luring on runescape.

 

I agree that luring is a game mechanic and shouldn't be interfered with. But what about abusing glitches to gain an unfair advantage over others? Buying/selling staking glitches for RS or any other RSPS shouldn't be allowed as it's really just selling a method on how to scam. The victims fully expect the stake to be fair and are not given any sort of warning. How is this any different from scamming?

Currently sythe staff members follow the precedent that if someone admits to scamming anywhere (even in-game), they will be permanently banned (regardless of whether it is related to RWT or not).


For example:

If user A says that he scammed a random player for 10m in Runescape, he'll be banned on Sythe.

If user B says that he used a staking glitch while staking a random player to win 10m, no action will be taken against him on Sythe.

Both of these scenarios have happened in the past.

 

While I agree that it is a game mechanic, and that there's no element of RWT directly involved how is it non considered social engineering? Maybe I am misunderstanding Social Engineering but manipulating someone into doing something for your benefit seems to be luring.