Logical proof that God exists
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We haven't continued to evolve because first, there's in incentive. Everybody survives to pass along their genes, and second, it takes place when there's a need for it. We're perfectly adapted to our environment as it is.
We didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from a common ancestor.
Again, this has nothing to do with the thread topic. Bring it to the evolution thread.
We didn't evolve from apes. We evolved from a common ancestor.
Again, this has nothing to do with the thread topic. Bring it to the evolution thread.
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god exists for sure. how did the world come together? o matter just formed it....how was matter there? god exists whether u believe it or not.
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we didnt evolve from monkies. monkeys evolved from us. there was a town of bad people. believed in no god and were bad. as a result god made them into monkeys. how could hairy hunch backs and crazy turn into us? but how can hairless turn hairy, straight back turn curve..and normal turn into insane? look at it. they got bended. got hairier. and got mad. thats how. thats why there all crazy since they were crazy as humans
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I believe we are composed of about 99.99999% (Probably more) of nothing.
I believe mater = energy and energy = matter.... (Example: E = MC2)
I believe the universe IS infinite.
I believe in natural selection.
I believe we modify little pieces of our DNA as we live.
I believe in Aliens. (Can't be sure about them visiting us though.)
I believe there is a whole set of colors/sound we couldn't even imagine.
I believe in parallel universe somewhere lost in the galaxies.
I believe that when I will die, my brain survive for a couple seconds, minutes, hours maybe. And it's gonna be the happiest/sadiest (Heaven/Hell) moment of my existence , depending on what I did and what I regret of my life.
I don't believe in god. The idea of god is just not logical.
But I do believe that something animate the world, a "force" that we can't necessarily percept, it doesn't have needs, it's "perfect" since it cannot make good or bad choices. it doesn't have a conscience like we do, it won't send us to heaven or hell, it's just the energy around us, that animates each and everyone of our cells and atoms. It flows through everyone, it's everywhere and nowhere in same time.
It's most commonly known as "energy", that thing that burns you when you put your fingers too close to a fire, the thing that makes your heart beat every single day of your life. We are all related to it, since it goes through every single atoms of the universe, so we can presume to be all his son if I believe the bible.
Well, just never mind about me not believing in "god". Well, I don't really do since I don't believe in the same perception as most (If not all) religion in the world do.
Here's a link to a movie everyone should watch. It's definitely not a waste of time.
I must say I don't agree on a lot of point demonstrated, but it's really instructive.
zeitgeistmovie.com
So anyway, since I don't really believe in god, and I commit a lot of sins everyday... I guess I will see you in hell. Have a great time.
I believe mater = energy and energy = matter.... (Example: E = MC2)
I believe the universe IS infinite.
I believe in natural selection.
I believe we modify little pieces of our DNA as we live.
I believe in Aliens. (Can't be sure about them visiting us though.)
I believe there is a whole set of colors/sound we couldn't even imagine.
I believe in parallel universe somewhere lost in the galaxies.
I believe that when I will die, my brain survive for a couple seconds, minutes, hours maybe. And it's gonna be the happiest/sadiest (Heaven/Hell) moment of my existence , depending on what I did and what I regret of my life.
I don't believe in god. The idea of god is just not logical.
But I do believe that something animate the world, a "force" that we can't necessarily percept, it doesn't have needs, it's "perfect" since it cannot make good or bad choices. it doesn't have a conscience like we do, it won't send us to heaven or hell, it's just the energy around us, that animates each and everyone of our cells and atoms. It flows through everyone, it's everywhere and nowhere in same time.
It's most commonly known as "energy", that thing that burns you when you put your fingers too close to a fire, the thing that makes your heart beat every single day of your life. We are all related to it, since it goes through every single atoms of the universe, so we can presume to be all his son if I believe the bible.
Well, just never mind about me not believing in "god". Well, I don't really do since I don't believe in the same perception as most (If not all) religion in the world do.
Here's a link to a movie everyone should watch. It's definitely not a waste of time.
I must say I don't agree on a lot of point demonstrated, but it's really instructive.
zeitgeistmovie.com
So anyway, since I don't really believe in god, and I commit a lot of sins everyday... I guess I will see you in hell. Have a great time.
Illogical reasoning.
grimreaperofrunescape said:
This is so poor, on so many levels, that I'm not sure where to begin.
fireflame said:
Good. I agree with most of those points.
fireflame said:
Seconds, at most. The brain cannot sustain electrical function after death.
fireflame said:
So, you believe in energy? Fair enough.
fireflame said:
It is very instructive, but be careful of a few points it makes without backing them up.
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All I have to say...
1. WHAT THE FUCK?
2. GOD PWNS YOU!
3. God is real.
You're out of your FUCKING mind do think that the beautiful human body came from a fucking ape. And then the so called theory of "evolution of humans"...absolute bull shit. Go ahead all Atheists and try to act all logical with your "FACTS" and are going to try to prove me wrong. GOD EXISTS.
1. WHAT THE FUCK?
2. GOD PWNS YOU!
3. God is real.
You're out of your FUCKING mind do think that the beautiful human body came from a fucking ape. And then the so called theory of "evolution of humans"...absolute bull shit. Go ahead all Atheists and try to act all logical with your "FACTS" and are going to try to prove me wrong. GOD EXISTS.
We didn't come from apes. Apes and humans evolved from a common ancestor.
Why is evolution bullshit?
Why does God exist?
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can you prove that god exists? if someone believes in evolution there athiest?\
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and as shredder said, we did not come from apes. that is why there is a huge war against evolutionist and creationism. damn christians and all you people think that we are saying we came from apes. we both evolved from a common ancestor and that is why we have some of the same characteristics.
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I'm starting to dislike you...
That's off topic, if you want to argue evolution then stay in the evolution thread and argue it. And to answer your question of the chance a planet that can support life being...brb
We had a deep disgustion in rs about this today.If you don't want god to exist then that's you. If you do believe he does, then... >.> He does exsists. Also he has no sex, so i dunno ;O
If you're talking about the Judeo-Christian God, then that almost certainly doesn't exist. Whether or not people want to delude themselves into thinking that he is real is another story.
jaamal said:
God would still be necessary, because he would basically be existence itself.
If you stripped God of all his traits, except for existence which isn't a trait of GOD to begin with. It is only A characteristic of God if GOD has to exist, because existence exist. But A Being that has no characteritics is no longer neccesary and needed so the world will be fine with-out this GOD. So existence of this God does not exist.
God without an attributes, traits, or characteristics isn't a being. It's existence itself, and that is what is necessary. Obviously, if existence didn't exist, how could anything else?
Not existence of all things, only "things" that are traitless, if something has no attributes, traits, or characteristics it can not be anything. It has no mass to take up space, it has no form to show shape, and it has qualites of things that exist. Everything that humans have encountered have traits to describe it, and if not traits, at least mass.
If something is stripped of all attributes but existence, then it is the essence of existence itself. Do you deny that all things that exist, exist? If you remove all things from the universe, absolutely everything, there is still something, and that is simply existence. Do I make it out to be a great spiritual force? Absolutely not. The fact remains, however, that existence itself can exist.
In order for God to exist after being stripped of qualties except for existence, then you would have to prove another way that this GOD's existence existed before he lost his traits.
On another note, existence itself can not happen. Removing all things from the universe would still leave the universe itself to exist and that is something that has traits. Anything with no traits can not exist, because they can not be proved to exist.
It's not God anymore. It's just existence itself.
jaamal said:
The universe is the totality of all things. It's not some giant object hanging in nothingness. If you remove all traits from the universe (space-time, matter, etc.), then nothing exists but existence.
But this thing/GOD before you stripped it of existence had no proof of its existence, so to strip this thing of all attributes would leave nothing, not even existence.
But stripping the universe of it traits leaves nothing. Look at the definitions of the word exist, all of these defintions can only be used on things with traits. If you are nothing, then you can not exist.
Exist
1.to have real being whether material or spiritual
2.to have being in a specified place or with respect to understood limitations or conditions <strange ideas existed in his mind>
3. to continue to be
4. to have life or the functions of vitality
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