Logical proof that God exists

Yes, that's absolutely correct. You have found the hidden truth of my logic.

 

How is God existance itself? His Existance isn't necessary, which is what I've been asking all along. Just because something doesn't exist doesn't mean it doesn't have the possibility to exist. God may be the cause of our existance, or an explosion could have been the cause of the existance of both ourselves and God (makes you wonder if God started off as a monkey or sludge). Existance can exist with or without God. They are not necessarily innertwined.

And then Walk On Home beat me to the latter part of what I was going to say... >_<

 

Sythe, i just lolled so hard at that way you put that, that i may need to take some panadol.
I still dont know if im laughing for or against. but ok.

 

wow that confused me lol, didnt understand a thing of it...

 

Sythe wins for the lack of anyone being able to understand and then dispute his post...

 

No kidding...
Sythe, we have no room for further misconstruing. Your symbolic structure holds no universal interpretation. But seems you've reached similar conclusions others have, which have already been counter-argued.
I still think the proof holds absolutely no ground. But I gave up on this thread long ago, it progressively makes less sense.

 

He is existence itself because it is a God stripped of all attributes but existence. What else would it be?

The concept of God stripped of all attributes but existence cannot be self-contradictory, because it is but one point, which cannot contradict itself. For a contradiction to occur, there must be two points, such as a circular square.

Whyever not?

 

I'm familiar with what you intended, but are you going to be so stupid as to say it's universal? You should've given the key originally.

Anyhow, it's plain wrong. You generalized statements into such logic as "p->p"... that is true, obviously, but the interpretation is wrong (I assume it's supposed to be "God existing implies he always existed", which is what was stated). That's the tip of the iceberg.

 

I didnt understand anything from the link, and nor do I understand anything from your comments.

 

Your error is that you have made God a necessary being by making him synonymous with existence.

Existence has to exist, and that is true. God, stripped of all his attributes except existence, is no longer anything except existence. So if God is only existence, then he must exist... but God is not existence. If you instead assume that it was never originally one of his attributes (as an Atheist would), then he cannot exist.
If he doesn't hold the attribute of existence in the first place, then he is stripped down to nothing. Because after all, if he doesn't exist, then it is impossible for him to exist.

 

Right, dont get me started >.< Christianity was made up my the jews long ago, used as a "hoax" to cover up our real past and so to leave a certain few with alot of power. You say it is "Impossible for g*d Not to exist" to be honest there is no proof that it exists what so ever. You might say "Well theres no proof g*d doesnt exist either" Theres no proof a mans penis can jump "off" and walk around juggling whilst playing "Y M C A" on a piano with its "feet" either but it does not mean it exists, not at all.

 

.QFT.

 

Really bad convoluted logic. Use the Cosmological Argument, it's irrefutable.

 

you shouldnt need proof to belive in god
having faith in god is the most important thing, and thats all you need

 

Originally Posted by Box of Candy
If god existed, there would be no Gay Rights, because being homosexualy is against his will. Thus, god does not exist.

Box Of Candy I sallute ur godlyness

 

I think that only applys to a Christian god, but you know.

 

i beileve in god but wtf was that stupide homo shit

 

It is not necessarily true that the existence of God means he's their. If God is not their, that does not mean he cannot be their. The statement, is as follows, destroys it's meaning. If God does exist, it does not mean that his existence is valid.

Example: ..

It's like food and digestion. The food at a point in time exist.. However once you chew, swallow, and digest the food, it no longer exist. However, if matter cannot be created nor destroyed, that must mean that the food still exist, but doesn't.

Get it?