Limitation on user T.O.S

[Drrizzzy Drake]

I've noticed many threads have their disclaimers and Terms of Service that you agree to if you trade with them. What are the limitations, if any, on these?
For example several threads say if you send the money as anything other then a gift they will not refund and it will considered a donation. If someone wanted their money back and the seller sites the t.o.s and wouldn't refund the money what would be the outcome? If the person claimed the money back would they be a scammer? If a user does something that would be considered a scam but it was allowable in their t.o.s that the buyer agreed to would they be safe ?

 

[Determinate]

I don't think there are any limitations to TOS atm.

Public opinion is probably along the lines of if you don't agree, don't trade.

 

[Matt Hasty]

I reported this a few times because I don't agree with it at all. Not everyone can read the little fine print you have at the bottom of your thread that's in size one font. If they don't agree to the T.O.S over MSN, the whole thing should be invalid. Just because someone doesn't send a payment in the correct format, it means you get a free scam card? No it doesn't mean that, and you shouldn't be able to get away with it either.

Everyones T.O.S should be reviewed and verified by a moderator or they don't exist.

 

[Drrizzzy Drake]

I reported this a few times because I don't agree with it at all. Not everyone can read the little fine print you have at the bottom of your thread that's in size one font. If they don't agree to the T.O.S over MSN, the whole thing should be invalid. Just because someone doesn't send a payment in the correct format, it means you get a free scam card? No it doesn't mean that, and you shouldn't be able to get away with it either.

Everyones T.O.S should be reviewed and verified by a moderator or they don't exist.

My thoughts exactly. It gives too many freedoms that wouldn't normally be allowed. If I sold a guide and the T.O.S said no refunds and the guide was exceedingly worthless/ not as described I should have to refund or face a ban.

 

[Matt Hasty]

My thoughts exactly. It gives too many freedoms that wouldn't normally be allowed. If I sold a guide and the T.O.S said no refunds and the guide was exceedingly worthless/ not as described I should have to refund or face a ban.

You wouldn't face a ban, because before buying a guide most users ask you if the guide makes or does what's suppose to, and they ask about refund options. If they agreed than it's their fault in the end and they'd have no weapon against you other than possibly getting your thread closed down.

The T.O.S should be fair, but once you agree to them it's your fault. Although if you have not noticed they had a T.O.S, and you traded and got shitted on later you'd have a good fight.

 

[Drrizzzy Drake]

So a long as your T.O.S isn't to ridiculous and you make it obvious and not in size 1 font its rules are in effect?

 

[Matt Hasty]

So a long as your T.O.S isn't to ridiculous and you make it obvious and not in size 1 font its rules are in effect?

Yup, until an admin makes a decision on rather or not there should be limitations that's how things are done. Although if you didn't say you agree and the seller still sold the product to you, their T.O.S basically gets flushed down the toilet.

You have to agree to the T.O.S, for it to take into effect.

 

[Magic Arrow]

We will ban anyone who refuses to refund a payment because it wasn't send in HIS desired payment type. T.O.S mean nothing when it comes to a common sense decision.

 

[Drrizzzy Drake]

We will ban anyone who refuses to refund a payment because it wasn't send in HIS desired payment type. T.O.S mean nothing when it comes to a common sense decision.

Thank you, thats the answer I was looking for.

 

[Weasel2013]

We will ban anyone who refuses to refund a payment because it wasn't send in HIS desired payment type. T.O.S mean nothing when it comes to a common sense decision.

Even if on the application there was literally a line stating

Do you fully agree to my TOS and relinquish your right to common sense decisions:

Or something like that. Like an agreement to the TOS AND a relinquishment to the rule.

 

[Matt Hasty]

Maybe remove their T.O.S, until they got mod verified? What's the point in having a T.O.S if they don't mean anything anyways.

 

[Markla709]

Maybe remove their T.O.S, until they got mod verified? What's the point in having a T.O.S if they don't mean anything anyways.

I agree, its ridiculous. On Rune Mart, ToS need to be verified. I know RM isn't what Sythe wants to be, but it works.

 

[The Legit Shop]

I personally cant stand it when people don't have the intellect to read my rules I post on a thread. I don't have any rules about sending payments but about what to post and what not to post. If you cant read and comprehend something simple you shouldn't even be dealing with real money.

 

[Matt Hasty]

I personally cant stand it when people don't have the intellect to read my rules I post on a thread. I don't have any rules about sending payments but about what to post and what not to post. If you cant read and comprehend something simple you shouldn't even be dealing with real money.

You sound like a total dick, stop being so rude. Learn to respect your customers. Make your thread easy to read, and you should have no problems.

Report spam when it happens, there's no reason to be mean about it.

 

[Tim Burton]

Your taking TOS into serious consideration in this topic. Put it this way. Even if they say their TERMS OF SERVICES IS BLA BLA BLA Doesnt mean jack. Because depending on how they word it would screw you over which no one wants that. As in if someone is offering botting services and says do not log in for a week and you log in and they did nothing to your account even on the seventh day but, you login to check your status they will say "He logged in here is pic for proof." The same thing happened to me. but his ass got banned. So what i'm merly saying is screw what they say in their tos, just always screen cap what they tell you.

 

[The Legit Shop]

You sound like a total dick, stop being so rude. Learn to respect your customers. Make your thread easy to read, and you should have no problems.

Report spam when it happens, there's no reason to be mean about it.

I do make it clear and easy to see. If it happened once or twice then I wouldn't be a total dick about it. But atleast 3 or 4 times on every thread, I think that is just too much and proves incompetence. I do report it as spam, but this isn't the point of this thread or my post. It was the fact that people need to learn to read and comprehend and if you don't agree with something that was stated, then don't purchase it. The seller makes up his rules and conditions for which he supplies the product, not whatever conditions you want to follow or think are fair.

 

[Plznate]

I think mod verification of all TOS would be a great idea. I would support that.

 

[x llama i]

I think mod verification of all TOS would be a great idea. I would support that.

Agg, This thread is getting hostile ;O

 

[oblivion9032]

I think mod verification of all TOS would be a great idea. I would support that.

i would support this too but i suppose there would need to be some limits on what your tos could be then

 

[Magic Arrow]

Even if on the application there was literally a line stating

Do you fully agree to my TOS and relinquish your right to common sense decisions:

Or something like that. Like an agreement to the TOS AND a relinquishment to the rule.

You can agree with their rules, but it does not mean the Sythe staff has to. His little line means nothing if it goes against one of our rules.

Maybe remove their T.O.S, until they got mod verified? What's the point in having a T.O.S if they don't mean anything anyways.

They just make the seller or trader feel more secure, while not actually doing much. It's not a legally binding agreement, and as such we will not take it into consideration when considering a scam report.

I agree, its ridiculous. On Rune Mart, ToS need to be verified. I know RM isn't what Sythe wants to be, but it works.

RM is much smaller than Sythe. It's not really viable here.

I personally cant stand it when people don't have the intellect to read my rules I post on a thread. I don't have any rules about sending payments but about what to post and what not to post. If you cant read and comprehend something simple you shouldn't even be dealing with real money.

Let me say it again, your rules mean nothing.

I think mod verification of all TOS would be a great idea. I would support that.

Not needed. TOS mean nothing when they go against the rules.