Aight, I'm not afraid to say I'm a member of Zamorak or of Sythe. I like both places, both have their good and bad qualities, and frankly, so fucking what.
Point is, me and Thorpe both agree this has gone too far. His propostions originally, I thought, were foolish attempts to get his way without any back firing. But so what if it is. Even IF Thorpe stole an idea from Zamorak, that just shows that Zamorak is better. IF the idea came from us, that means we have affected Sythe in a way.
Now that's a good thought. However, both of the admins/mods of both websites are stubborn.
Sythe, for instance, would not civilly discuss the matter with me, and zlined me from IRC. But oh well, I forgive and forget. It was bullshit, but hell, I'd rather this issue be fucking resolved.
Now, Sythe and Zamorak are very different and somewhat the same, the way we make that work depends on who is the better. We all know Fagex sucks, and as such no one likes it (no offence, I just don't like it XD. The shout box...yadayada.)
Bug, Repentless, WhoCares, Annex, Sythe, Thorpe.... Seriously guys... you're running websites of large proportions. Sythe.org may be bigger than Zamorak.org but it has been around longer too.
Now, two things can come of this, 1) we can continue being shitty with each other, and you guys can do your corrupt ban fest like normal.
or 2) this issue can be resolved, Sythe can have Sythe, Zammy can have Zammy...Which ever one is chosen.. who gives a fuck.
I often preach how I hate Sythe.org.... but I still use it. I host my writing here, and other things as well. But really, this just needs settled.
Now, here is what bug says on the issue:
"Zamorak.Org - Co-Owner - Bug says:
Annex and thorpe will be demodded, and the VU system will be removed from Sythe, or we'll get credit to our level of liking. End of story.
"
Originally, I wanted that. I wanted Annex and Thorpe gone for what they had done, and the VU removed, or credit given like we wanted. That was the ONLY form of agreement I would come to. But, seeing as this is just plain immature, fuck it. It's a fucking idea, yes it sucks, so you know what, Zamorak will just come up with something better and copyright it. We expand so much guys, and we have new projects and shit all the time... why in the hell are we worried about something that's preventing scamming. Good idea, yes, but really necessary to take lawsuit or anything like that? No. Thorpe will give credit, and we will ALL move on.
Now, here's what Sythe says on the issue:
"<Deacon> You know this started with the issue over VU
<Sythe> apparently
<Deacon> Well, we either want credit, or it removed
<Sythe> thats it?
<Deacon> No
<Sythe> you want credit for an idea you didnt even come up with
<Sythe> you guys need to go fuck yourselves
<Deacon> The way it happened sythe
<Sythe> we didnt steal your stupid idea"
You guys are using that "stupid idea".... And seriously, saying things like:
"<Sythe> get it through your fucking heads
<Sythe> ok look
<Sythe> we had enver even heard of you
<Sythe> until now
<Sythe> UNDERSTAND
<Sythe> COMPRENDEA?
<Sythe> you guys suck
<Sythe> you are the bottom of the bottom
<Deacon> No, because it had come through before big time...
<Deacon> Yes, we are
<Deacon> We agree
<Sythe> i hate you all just for being such moronic children
<Sythe> just fuck off and leave us all be
<Deacon> we haven't been around 3 years
<Deacon> or whatever
<Deacon> We are TRYING
<Sythe> yeah yeah shut up and go"
Seriously Sythe, you're not fit to run a website when you won't listen to your users. I use both places, but fuck man.. fuck.
Oh well.. you and Bug BOTH have your qualities that can be seen as...horrible... but nevertheless, the issues need to be resolved.
I'm going to call us all children now, and tell us ALL to grow the fuck up. Me included
.
Thorpe gives Zamorak credit, and a link. I'm sure that's easy, and there's no problem with it. No one else fights, any further attacks on EITHER website is an attack from an individual person. Should either expect the other of malicious intent, then the issue is resolved civilly.
Yes, this is a RuneScape cheating forum full of 8 year olds, but we aren't setting a good example. No wonder Jagex hates us...
The issue is resolved... Unban those who are Zamorak people simply because they are, and stop wrongfully banning people.
I would like feedback from BOTH sides, any inability to be mature and respectful over this issue will prove who is the better. So let us ALL be grown ups, ok kiddies
.
~Deacon
E:
From Bug:
Point is, me and Thorpe both agree this has gone too far. His propostions originally, I thought, were foolish attempts to get his way without any back firing. But so what if it is. Even IF Thorpe stole an idea from Zamorak, that just shows that Zamorak is better. IF the idea came from us, that means we have affected Sythe in a way.
Now that's a good thought. However, both of the admins/mods of both websites are stubborn.
Sythe, for instance, would not civilly discuss the matter with me, and zlined me from IRC. But oh well, I forgive and forget. It was bullshit, but hell, I'd rather this issue be fucking resolved.
Now, Sythe and Zamorak are very different and somewhat the same, the way we make that work depends on who is the better. We all know Fagex sucks, and as such no one likes it (no offence, I just don't like it XD. The shout box...yadayada.)
Bug, Repentless, WhoCares, Annex, Sythe, Thorpe.... Seriously guys... you're running websites of large proportions. Sythe.org may be bigger than Zamorak.org but it has been around longer too.
Now, two things can come of this, 1) we can continue being shitty with each other, and you guys can do your corrupt ban fest like normal.
I often preach how I hate Sythe.org.... but I still use it. I host my writing here, and other things as well. But really, this just needs settled.
Now, here is what bug says on the issue:
"Zamorak.Org - Co-Owner - Bug says:
Annex and thorpe will be demodded, and the VU system will be removed from Sythe, or we'll get credit to our level of liking. End of story.
"
Originally, I wanted that. I wanted Annex and Thorpe gone for what they had done, and the VU removed, or credit given like we wanted. That was the ONLY form of agreement I would come to. But, seeing as this is just plain immature, fuck it. It's a fucking idea, yes it sucks, so you know what, Zamorak will just come up with something better and copyright it. We expand so much guys, and we have new projects and shit all the time... why in the hell are we worried about something that's preventing scamming. Good idea, yes, but really necessary to take lawsuit or anything like that? No. Thorpe will give credit, and we will ALL move on.
Now, here's what Sythe says on the issue:
"<Deacon> You know this started with the issue over VU
<Sythe> apparently
<Deacon> Well, we either want credit, or it removed
<Sythe> thats it?
<Deacon> No
<Sythe> you want credit for an idea you didnt even come up with
<Sythe> you guys need to go fuck yourselves
<Deacon> The way it happened sythe
<Sythe> we didnt steal your stupid idea"
You guys are using that "stupid idea".... And seriously, saying things like:
"<Sythe> get it through your fucking heads
<Sythe> ok look
<Sythe> we had enver even heard of you
<Sythe> until now
<Sythe> UNDERSTAND
<Sythe> COMPRENDEA?
<Sythe> you guys suck
<Sythe> you are the bottom of the bottom
<Deacon> No, because it had come through before big time...
<Deacon> Yes, we are
<Deacon> We agree
<Sythe> i hate you all just for being such moronic children
<Sythe> just fuck off and leave us all be
<Deacon> we haven't been around 3 years
<Deacon> or whatever
<Deacon> We are TRYING
<Sythe> yeah yeah shut up and go"
Seriously Sythe, you're not fit to run a website when you won't listen to your users. I use both places, but fuck man.. fuck.
Oh well.. you and Bug BOTH have your qualities that can be seen as...horrible... but nevertheless, the issues need to be resolved.
I'm going to call us all children now, and tell us ALL to grow the fuck up. Me included
Thorpe gives Zamorak credit, and a link. I'm sure that's easy, and there's no problem with it. No one else fights, any further attacks on EITHER website is an attack from an individual person. Should either expect the other of malicious intent, then the issue is resolved civilly.
Yes, this is a RuneScape cheating forum full of 8 year olds, but we aren't setting a good example. No wonder Jagex hates us...
The issue is resolved... Unban those who are Zamorak people simply because they are, and stop wrongfully banning people.
I would like feedback from BOTH sides, any inability to be mature and respectful over this issue will prove who is the better. So let us ALL be grown ups, ok kiddies
~Deacon
E:
From Bug:
You're right, this is stupid. I can't deny that I still feel I'm justified -- to quote a Sythe member: "Intentional or not, thorpe DID act like a prick and steal from Zamorak." But like you said, it's gotten out of hand. My expectations of Sythe were... unlikely to be followed, to say the least. While I will certainly expect Sythe to give an explanation of the actions of his staff, my position on the VU system is that, while it was stolen, if we get a plain obvious link next to it that pretty much says "VU / Secure Trader system by Zamorak -- http://www.zamorak.org" I'd accept such a compromise.
However, while this mature chat is all fine on paper, we all know Sythe won't do it.
Why? Because Sythe is an immature, delusional asshole who thinks that he is god. This is one of the two main reasons Zamorak split from Sythe. Sythe was a pathetic excuse for an owner and he and his staff were corrupt. If Sythe can actually swallow his ego, maybe we can come to an agreement. If he's unable to follow such a simple concept, the war will undoubtedly continue until he gets a clue or one of us destroys the other.
~Bug









