Latest Marijuana Trend

[Queen]

Some people are against Marijuana and some are not. I have no hate on it. I have never tried it and there is a reason for it, because I don't want to risk getting caught. Both my parents hate it. I don't know why. If I smoked Marijuana and my parents knew they would drag me to the Police Station and force be to explain what I have done. My country takes Marijuana really serious. They literally hate it.

 

[Scimzz]

I smoke "Marijuana" alot actually , it makes you feel way better than being drunk or "intoxicated", but in my opinion marijuana shouldn't be illegal as it is used for medical reasons, and to feel good.

 

[Trent!]

I've been smoking marijuana for nearly 2 and a half years. I've done as much research as I could and I have a collection of over 20 pages of different quotes, sources, etc. I'm definitely capable of taking a genuine, and credible study that speaks against marijuana, and find the full copy of the real study, analyze it and adjust my statements based on what I've learned. My stances and opinions about various topics related to marijuana have changed over the years and I've become more experienced with it and have learned more about it.

Honestly, I used to be extremely against marijuana. I would get pissed at friends who did it, said that it was horrible for you or causes lung cancer, etc. None of which was true. One of my pot-head drug dealing friends lent me a DVD that was a docoumentary released in 2007-8 that pointed out a lot of the misconceptions about the plant. I've learned a lot about it through research and through personal use, and here are some of the things I've found:

1. It is physically impossible to overdose on weed unless you intend to fully smoke 6.25 grams of weed every second for 20 minutes straight, which even then, you would fall asleep before you could reach toxic levels.

2. Marijuana is statistically as addictive as Caffeine, both substances causes 9% of users to become addicted. Compare that to 15% of alcohol, 24% of heroin, and 33% of Nicotine (yes, 1 out of every 3 people who pick up a cigarette and smoke it will become addicted at some point in their life). While most people who are called "weed addicts" are really just psychologically addicted, which is all related to willpower, it IS possible to become physically addicted (I used to not believe it, but from personal experience, it definitely is possible). However, despite the fact that physical addiction is possible, through my own experience, it is extremely easy to break this addiction, and occasional periodic use will not cause you to suddenly fall back into addiction. I was smoking at least 2 grams every single day for over 8 months. I was physically dependent on the substance, and I went through 2 weeks of being sober, and started to smoke once a day. Later down the road my RSGP sales went south because of the crashing of the market and I was running out of money to buy more. Once I reached the point where I was not willing to spend anymore money, I was sober for another few weeks. It was exceedingly easy. In the last month I have only gotten high 3-4 times, compared to the 90-120 times a month I was getting high previously. I crave a big double-quarter pounder with cheese from McDonald's more than I crave weed right now. The only time I smoke now is if I'm hanging out with friends and having fun. I don't smoke before school like a used to, nor do I have any desire whatsoever to anymore. Hell, I passed my drug test for a new job recently, easiest thing in the world, and I didn't even end up choosing that job. My current job actually doesn't even drug test hourly employees unless they get injured on the job, and all they do is a saliva test, which only picks up weed within 1-2 days of use. I've lived with a Meth Addict, and an Alcoholic in my life, and those kind of addictions don't even compare at all to the addiction of pot, nor the difficulty of breaking a pot addiction.

3. Marijuana does NOT kill brain cells, and I can find you studies to prove it if you really want to fight me on that. Weed's two main chemical ingredients, delta9-Tetrahydracannibinol (THC) and Cannabidiol (CBD) bind like fats to your brain's neurotransmitters. This binding is not permanent, and for the average smoker the effects disappear within 30-90 days depending on how long you've been smoking and how often. I myself experienced the short term memory lapses after smoking as much as I was. I would be having conversations and I'd lose my train of thought so often it was discouraging to even try and have a long in-depth conversation with someone because I'd forget what I was saying 10x or more. My now ex-girlfriend and I would talk every day about tons of shit, and she would constantly have to remember for me what I was saying to bring me back on track (thank jesus she had such a fantastic memory, she was a life-saver). After only 14 days of not smoking, I'd started to talk with her again and she was in shock at the difference in my speech. In an hour long FaceTime conversation she only had to bring me back on track once or maybe twice because of simple brain farts. My psychologist has noticed huge differences from when I first started seeing him and to around now, and he said that it's very noticeable how much more consistent my short term memory is. This shows that while using regularly and consistently, there will be a build-up of these fatty chemicals to your brain, and will slow you down, however, it doesn't take long of being clean or even drastically cutting usage to notice a large difference. However, based on a study released a little over 2 weeks ago, using a sample size of 1,037 people, they tracked these subjects from ages 13... before pot use, until age 38. The compared the differences in IQ changes of 100% sober individuals to users who had started smoking weed before age 18, and those who started smoking weed after 18. They found that out of those who started smoking weed before 18 and continued smoking about 4 times every week until they were 38, when the study ended, experienced an average of 8 points IQ drop. I did not see any attempts to go without it for at least a year to see if there was any recovery, but maybe we'll see that in future studies. Interestingly enough, the doctors involved with the study actually stated that while they believed persistent pot use before the age of 18 was and I quote "neurotoxic," they also stated that they believed pot use over the age of 18 to be "relatively safe." Personally, I've already had full psychological evaluations by medical professionals twice in my life (part of the results includes an accurate IQ score), and I tested to have over a 120 IQ, so to me, 8 IQ points over 25 years isn't really much of a loss for myself personally, however everyone who is under 18 here can make that choice for themselves. It also means that if you're over 18 go ahead and smoke all the weed you want, it's not considered as dangerous by the doctors managing the study.

4. Marijuana has neuroprotective effects on the brain against ethanol (drinking alcohol) related cell death. This means that it actually helps prevent your brain cells from being killed through the use of alcohol.

5. Marijuana is NOT related to Lung Cancer (Tell me otherwise and I will provide you with a 40 minute video interview with Dr. Tashkin MD, the Medical Director of the Pulmonary Function Laboratory at UCLA who will tell you otherwise), and according to Cancer.gov, THC and CBD actually have been shown to have "Antitumor properties" meaning it shrinks the size of tumors, helps prevent the tumor from growing or spreading, and actually helps prevent cell death of healthy tissue surrounding the tumor cells. It has actually cured certain brain cancers in animal studies.

5. The Deparment of Motor Vehicles conducted a study where they compared the impairments of drivers who were under the influence of marijuana compared to that of alcohol. They stated that the overall impairment was comparable to about 0.05 BAC. In most states, 0.08 BAC is the legal limit, however some states, like my own, have a 0 tolerance rule with alcohol, meaning even a 0.01 BAC is considered drunk driving and you will get a DUI ticket for doing so. They also noted that users under the influence of pot were more likely to travel either at the speed limit or slightly under the speed limit, compared to alcohol causing an increase in speed. They also noted that pot influenced drivers were more aware of their impairment, and made extra precautions such as slowing down earlier so they have more time to stop at a stop light or sign, increasing the distance between the car ahead of them, and taking less risky choices while driving (such as waiting for a better opportunity to turn onto a busy street instead of trying to peel out fast so that you can make it in time).

And I'm sure I could think of some more things, but this post is already very long and I might just add more later.

For anyone who thinks weed is all horrible and terrible for you and what-not, try watching this award winning documentary released in 2007:
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[SexayMistahBee]

3. Marijuana does NOT kill brain cells, and I can find you studies to prove it if you really want to fight me on that. Weed's two main chemical ingredients, delta9-Tetrahydracannibinol (THC) and Cannabidiol (CBD) bind like fats to your brain's neurotransmitters. This binding is not permanent, and for the average smoker the effects disappear within 30-90 days depending on how long you've been smoking and how often. I myself experienced the short term memory lapses after smoking as much as I was. I would be having conversations and I'd lose my train of thought so often it was discouraging to even try and have a long in-depth conversation with someone because I'd forget what I was saying 10x or more. My now ex-girlfriend and I would talk every day about tons of shit, and she would constantly have to remember for me what I was saying to bring me back on track (thank jesus she had such a fantastic memory, she was a life-saver). After only 14 days of not smoking, I'd started to talk with her again and she was in shock at the difference in my speech. In an hour long FaceTime conversation she only had to bring me back on track once or maybe twice because of simple brain farts. My psychologist has noticed huge differences from when I first started seeing him and to around now, and he said that it's very noticeable how much more consistent my short term memory is. This shows that while using regularly and consistently, there will be a build-up of these fatty chemicals to your brain, and will slow you down, however, it doesn't take long of being clean or even drastically cutting usage to notice a large difference. However, based on a study released a little over 2 weeks ago, using a sample size of 1,037 people, they tracked these subjects from ages 13... before pot use, until age 38. The compared the differences in IQ changes of 100% sober individuals to users who had started smoking weed before age 18, and those who started smoking weed after 18. They found that out of those who started smoking weed before 18 and continued smoking about 4 times every week until they were 38, when the study ended, experienced an average of 8 points IQ drop. I did not see any attempts to go without it for at least a year to see if there was any recovery, but maybe we'll see that in future studies. Interestingly enough, the doctors involved with the study actually stated that while they believed persistent pot use before the age of 18 was and I quote "neurotoxic," they also stated that they believed pot use over the age of 18 to be "relatively safe." Personally, I've already had full psychological evaluations by medical professionals twice in my life (part of the results includes an accurate IQ score), and I tested to have over a 120 IQ, so to me, 8 IQ points over 25 years isn't really much of a loss for myself personally, however everyone who is under 18 here can make that choice for themselves. It also means that if you're over 18 go ahead and smoke all the weed you want, it's not considered as dangerous by the doctors managing the study.

Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, the combustion of it does.

When something is burnt like marijuana or tobacco in an enclosed space, there is not enough oxygen for Carbon to bind with, so CO is released as a by-product, gets into your smoke and respitory system and kills your brain cells.
Solution? Brownies or vaporizers.

Thanks for the long post, I've read it all, but I don't know why you went through the trouble of writing a wall of I din't know wh you would go throughh the trouble of talking about something that's indirectly related to the main point of the thread.

 

[Trent!]

Marijuana doesn't kill brain cells, the combustion of it does.

When something is burnt like marijuana or tobacco in an enclosed space, there is not enough oxygen for Carbon to bind with, so CO is released as a by-product, gets into your smoke and respitory system and kills your brain cells.
Solution? Brownies or vaporizers.

Thanks for the long post, I've read it all, but I don't know why you went through the trouble of writing a wall of I din't know wh you would go throughh the trouble of talking about something that's indirectly related to the main point of the thread.

If that were true you would hear studies and claims saying that smoking cigarettes kill braincells, which you won't find.

When you induce carbonization and inhale smoke, the carbon enters your blood stream through your lungs, which creates COHb (carboxyhemoglobin) which in large amounts can be harmful. The average amount of COHb in an average smoker is commonly around 3-4%. A normal nonsmoker is usually around 1.5%. According to the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services, "Generally, no adverse effects are expected below 10 percent COHb for healthy individuals."

While yes, smoking does increase your COHb levels, it doesn't raise it to a level that is high enough to cause harm such as brain cell death.

 

[SexayMistahBee]

If that were true you would hear studies and claims saying that smoking cigarettes kill braincells, which you won't find.

When you induce carbonization and inhale smoke, the carbon enters your blood stream through your lungs, which creates COHb (carboxyhemoglobin) which in large amounts can be harmful. The average amount of COHb in an average smoker is commonly around 3-4%. A normal nonsmoker is usually around 1.5%. According to the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services, "Generally, no adverse effects are expected below 10 percent COHb for healthy individuals."

While yes, smoking does increase your COHb levels, it doesn't raise it to a level that is high enough to cause harm such as brain cell death.

I was going to accuse you of having only superficial knowledge, but I guess that I would have been a hypocrite if I said that.
I guess that the misconception originated from people who knew that CO in the blood could cut off O2 supply and kill brain cells, but were not aware that a certain amount is needed for that to be possible.

Now back on topic please,
This topic was made to discuss the latest marijuana trend, not marijuana itself.

 

[mage3158]

The crusade against "bathsalts" or research chems was actually a good thing whether or not it was just hyped up media bullshit.

I do agree that marijuana and a lot of other traditional drugs are pretty safe in moderation, the facts are just covered by ignorance.

 

[Sypherz]

I don't plan on taking any drugs really. I have an addictive personality and my entire family consists of alcoholics. After seeing just pot and alcohol ruin my father. Well, ehh..

 

[ignitiion]

I've never tried marijuana, nor do i ever want to. To be fair it just sounds gross sucking smoke up into your lungs, but maybe it's just me. Also, apparently people say that it's a gateway drugs, but i attribute that to lack of self-control and knowledge from people who do smoke marijuana and get into heavier stuff rather than smoking marijuana itself. I have nothing against it in essence, or people who smoke it, but i make a personal choice not to. Not to mention the crowd in my area who DO smoke marijuana are horrible people and think they're amazing just because they do it.

 

[Aimless]

I was going to accuse you of having only superficial knowledge, but I guess that I would have been a hypocrite if I said that.
I guess that the misconception originated from people who knew that CO in the blood could cut off O2 supply and kill brain cells, but were not aware that a certain amount is needed for that to be possible.

Now back on topic please,
This topic was made to discuss the latest marijuana trend, not marijuana itself.

I don't see any relevance to the thread title in this thread. Where is anyone speaking of the latest marijuana trend? I thought it'd be wet weed rising up again.

 

[Emperor Nero]

I don't see any relevance to the thread title in this thread. Where is anyone speaking of the latest marijuana trend? I thought it'd be wet weed rising up again.

He is referring to the recent trends around Sythe in the MJ threads. If you notice it went from one of idgaf to more health conscious and people admitting that it actually does have long term effects.

 

[Meeder1]

People will sit on their high horse and tell you how smoking pot makes you a bad person, less intelligent, or lazy, in reality it does none of those things. The drug is only as harmful as the users mind is weak. Everything is fine when used correctly. Obviously if you're going into work high, or going to school high it could cause some problems, but for the majority of users (or maybe the minority, depends on where you are and what age group you're in) deal with it just fine.

TL;DR I smoke pot 4/7 days a week, and I retain straight A's, excellent school attendance, a positive attitude, and good work ethic.

 

[Terrankiller]

The trend seems to be to post a new thread about Marijuana every other day. I'll read the forums once or twice every week and there would always be a Marijuana thread.

 

[Egu]

Marijuana can go both ways, and it's not meant for just being smoked. As smoking anything, it can eventually cause you to have lung cancer, and create tar in your lungs. However if you are eating it, then it can clean your immune system. The whole plant itself has many uses.

 

[Staticil]

Holy crap, really? Still with marijuana? God people grow up and realize these threads are stupid. You all probably smoke but get your facts right, we all know it ruins your life so Sythe should prohibit these type of threads

 

[Trent!]

Marijuana can go both ways, and it's not meant for just being smoked. As smoking anything, it can eventually cause you to have lung cancer, and create tar in your lungs. However if you are eating it, then it can clean your immune system. The whole plant itself has many uses.

Well, smoking marijuana *should* cause lung cancer, but because of the THC and CBD content, it actually lowers the risk.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=large-study-finds-no-link

Occasional use of marijuana can actually be beneficial to lung function: "In fact, occasional marijuana use was associated with slight increases in lung airflow rates and increases in lung volume, the study found."

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=casual-marijuana-smoking

Holy crap, really? Still with marijuana? God people grow up and realize these threads are stupid. You all probably smoke but get your facts right, we all know it ruins your life so Sythe should prohibit these type of threads

Obviously it is YOU who needs to get their facts straight. Weed ruins your life? Orly, is that why near 50% of the White House staff have admitted to past Pot use? Is that why Obama smoked weed hardcore almost every day when he was younger, but became president of the united states? Hmmmmm.... I don't see your logic anywhere.

Anyway, on topic: Support in the United States at least is growing towards Marijuana. The reason why it's still not decriminalized/legalized yet is because of the fact that the current generation of politicians grew up in a time where everything you were told about weed was bullshit from government propaganda, NOT carefully conducted scientific medical studies. My theory is that as more and more of the politicians in power now either die or step down, our current generation will increase awareness about the realistic negatives and the existence of positives on the matter. The majority of the anti-marijuana groups or people are very ignorant about the realistic effects of the drug and why it was even made illegal in the first place (I can tell you right now it isn't because of anything to do with it being a drug, and if you don't believe me, watch the video I posted in my previous post on this thread). Also, in California for example, for Prop 19, the main reason they lost the popular vote was because many of the people who voted against it are senior citizens, and obviously grew up during the time in America where it was all bullshit propaganda instead of realistic education. This might sound morbid, but once those old people die, there will be a large amount of support , which will not be destroyed by conflicting age groups because of the increase in education over the years.

 

[cosrob97]

Obviously it is YOU who needs to get their facts straight. Weed ruins your life? Orly, is that why near 50% of the White House staff have admitted to past Pot use? Is that why Obama smoked weed hardcore almost every day when he was younger, but became president of the united states? Hmmmmm.... I don't see your logic anywhere.

It's like you're speeding in a car. You may do it a few times and nothing bad will happen, but eventually you'll get into a car accident if you continue to do it. So, like pot you can use it once and have no problems, but the continual use of it can ruin your life both mentally and psychically.

The white house argument is stupid. So some people used pot when they're young what does that mean? People have jumped off a bridge and survived to have some amazing occupation, so I guess I should jump off the bridge to get a great job too? It doesn't work that way.

Btw, weed causes tongue cancer. Google it before replying to it saying it doesn't.

 

[Piramid]

Holy crap, really? Still with marijuana? God people grow up and realize these threads are stupid. You all probably smoke but get your facts right, we all know it ruins your life so Sythe should prohibit these type of threads

Sythe isn't going to start censoring people's thread based off of opinions. Not going to take a position one way or another on this, but I do hate when people think that weed has no side effects. It's your choice to make to smoke it or not, but don't go acting like it's some god given miracle plant with no bad things about it. I smoke occasionally, but I know what I'm getting into and don't underplay it.

 

[Trent!]

It's like you're speeding in a car. You may do it a few times and nothing bad will happen, but eventually you'll get into a car accident if you continue to do it. So, like pot you can use it once and have no problems, but the continual use of it can ruin your life both mentally and psychically.

The white house argument is stupid. So some people used pot when they're young what does that mean? People have jumped off a bridge and survived to have some amazing occupation, so I guess I should jump off the bridge to get a great job too? It doesn't work that way.

Btw, weed causes tongue cancer. Google it before replying to it saying it doesn't.

1. The fact of the matter is that the amount of people who truly go into addiction and have their lives fucked up is exceedingly small compared to many other drugs... alcohol included, which is legal. Addiction rates are only 9%, the same as Caffeine. Alcohol is 15%, Heroin is 24%, and Nicotine is 33%.

2. I've been smoking weed for almost 2 and a half years. 3-6+ times a day for about 8 months or so. I still happened to get good grades and hang out with friends several times a week. I'm still smoking these days, just not as much, and basically just when I'm with a friend who has some/wants to. Uses weed for the right reasons can greatly aid in avoiding dependency. If you're depressed or struggling with something, and you are abusing weed to cover it up, chances are, even without weed, they would be using some other form of substances instead.

3. You really should read more careful and learn some better inference skills. The White House and Obama thing was not saying that weed making you successful, it was stating that just because you smoke pot that doesn't mean it's going to fuck up your life. Yeah there's a chance, but that is in your control. It is really quite easy to quit weed for weeks at a time, even if you're addicted; I would know, I've been through it. Also, those 50% of the white house staff had said they smoked pot within 5 years of getting their jobs. That would mean adult usage, unless they get hired right out of high school/college.

 

[SexayMistahBee]

1. The fact of the matter is that the amount of people who truly go into addiction and have their lives fucked up is exceedingly small compared to many other drugs... alcohol included, which is legal. Addiction rates are only 9%, the same as Caffeine. Alcohol is 15%, Heroin is 24%, and Nicotine is 33%.

2. I've been smoking weed for almost 2 and a half years. 3-6+ times a day for about 8 months or so. I still happened to get good grades and hang out with friends several times a week. I'm still smoking these days, just not as much, and basically just when I'm with a friend who has some/wants to. Uses weed for the right reasons can greatly aid in avoiding dependency. If you're depressed or struggling with something, and you are abusing weed to cover it up, chances are, even without weed, they would be using some other form of substances instead.

3. You really should read more careful and learn some better inference skills. The White House and Obama thing was not saying that weed making you successful, it was stating that just because you smoke pot that doesn't mean it's going to fuck up your life. Yeah there's a chance, but that is in your control. It is really quite easy to quit weed for weeks at a time, even if you're addicted; I would know, I've been through it. Also, those 50% of the white house staff had said they smoked pot within 5 years of getting their jobs. That would mean adult usage, unless they get hired right out of high school/college.

You should learn that knowing cool facts about marijuana doesn't give you the right to hijack my thread with a debate.
Seriously, I never gave a damn about the safety of marijuana, I was wondering why there were recent talks about it being bad.

So unless you have anything to say about that, stop posting.