K2 Kush or Spice

[CallmeShocken]

What are your views on it? Iv smoked it a few times and for the most part it use to be legal..

It gets a great high but many people do not agree its a good product..

 

[The debater]

K2 gives AWFUL trips. Kush is alrightt. Spice CAN be good but if it goes bad it goes REAAL bad.

 

[FloydZeppelin]

It's dangerous. Doesn't matter which way you look at it, it's dangerous. Scientists don't even know what all is in it and this stuff is being manufactured to kids. (Inb4 smoking cigarettes is bad for you - I know, that isn't an argument)

It's bad news and I've seen it change people, and I've seen people physically harmed by it. I'm telling you right now if you value your life and mental state, I seriously suggest you stay away from it.

Just because it doesn't hurt some people doesn't mean it can't hurt you.

 

[Emperor Nero]

It's dangerous. Doesn't matter which way you look at it, it's dangerous. Scientists don't even know what all is in it and this stuff is being manufactured to kids. (Inb4 smoking cigarettes is bad for you - I know, that isn't an argument)

It's bad news and I've seen it change people, and I've seen people physically harmed by it. I'm telling you right now if you value your life and mental state, I seriously suggest you stay away from it.

Just because it doesn't hurt some people doesn't mean it can't hurt you.

I agree with this. I have seen it mess up a lot of kids lives around where I live. I know a few kids who threatened to kill their parents because of it and one who went after his mom with a knife because of the stuff. The drugs are just an assorted concoction of chemicals that effects neurotransmitters and stuff.

http://www.livescience.com/6149-fake-weed-real-drug-k2-causing-hallucinations-teens.html

 

[Childish Gambino]

Tried it a couple years back, heard it was just rose pedals with chemicals.. was an awful experience. It's not even that great, and the driver of the car (who also smoked) changed and was just mad at everything and everyone and ended up almost killing us as well by running a red light that was red for a while before we got to the light. Just a bad overall experience. I'd stay away from it.

 

[florol]

Both are terrible for you. Don't do it.

 

[CallmeShocken]

I don't understand how it stayed legal and only has a ban right now then? I feel since not much is known about it people are afraid of it. It offers a better high then weed and is still legal in some states i believe.

 

[Emperor Nero]

I don't understand how it stayed legal and only has a ban right now then? I feel since not much is known about it people are afraid of it. It offers a better high then weed and is still legal in some states i believe.

It's only legal because the government can only ban the chemicals in it and once the government bans a chemical they just slightly alter some of the bonds and can start selling it again. So they keep pumping out newer and newer formulas that become increasingly unstable and untested. The stuff causes some really bad stuff. Hallucinations, extreme aggression, elevated blood pressure levels, nausea and vomiting. Not stuff that makes for a good high in my opinion.

 

[CallmeShocken]

It's only legal because the government can only ban the chemicals in it and once the government bans a chemical they just slightly alter some of the bonds and can start selling it again. So they keep pumping out newer and newer formulas that become increasingly unstable and untested. The stuff causes some really bad stuff. Hallucinations, extreme aggression, elevated blood pressure levels, nausea and vomiting. Not stuff that makes for a good high in my opinion.

It does have chemicals but so do cigeriets.. There's a chance of the unknown but the thing is the legalality of it. They can't make you do time for something legal.

 

[Emperor Nero]

It does have chemicals but so do cigeriets.. There's a chance of the unknown but the thing is the legalality of it. They can't make you do time for something legal.

I am not sure what you argument is? I am just saying that the chemicals in it are highly untested, unlike that of cigarettes. The FDA doesn't go out and take samples of these things from the factories and test them because they can't. Cigarette formula and production is monitored and highly regulated by the FDA and governmental studies go on, but where the formula for these designer drugs changes so often is impossible to test them because once one formula is stuck down by the law there is a new one out on the market. I know for a fact that Tennessee has banned the sale of all designer drugs in any form as well as Virginia and Kentucky.

 

[Soccer is Life]

That stuff is garbage, I smoked it a few times but it made me feel bad so I stopped, I'm glad it is finally getting banned.

 

[Annex]

I don't understand how it stayed legal and only has a ban right now then? I feel since not much is known about it people are afraid of it. It offers a better high then weed and is still legal in some states i believe.

A better high than weed is a complete joke, Weed is better than this garbage. I smoked spice once that someone else bought and it did absolutely piss all and I felt ripped off even though I didn't purchase anything.

 

[CallmeShocken]

It's actually proclaimed to be more potent then the actual real weed. I'm not taking sides I just feel since the chemicles are unknown people are affraid. I Tryed Codeblack berry today and it was 10x stronger then weed. Took 2 hits to be completely baked.

 

[Onsar]

Synthetic weed is the worst thing for you.
Sure, it may be legal, but the health side effects are so horrible that it's not even worth it imo.

 

[FloydZeppelin]

It's actually proclaimed to be more potent then the actual real weed. I'm not taking sides I just feel since the chemicles are unknown people are affraid. I Tryed Codeblack berry today and it was 10x stronger then weed. Took 2 hits to be completely baked.

It is more potent, but so is meth/heroin/speed/crack. And what do you know, those are all dangerous as well.

Stay green dude, trust me.

 

[nodnarbusn]

JUST SAYING, its far too soon for any of the claims of it being "healthy" or "unhealthy" to be substantiated at all for the time being as no long term studies HAVE been done what so ever .
Herb is best ofc but most people who smoke the synthetics KNOW that already, ATM the best thing to do is just use the synthetics (spice , k2 ect ect ) in extreme moderation as it is VERY possible to get tooooo baked off of them and in my experience very uncomfortable because of smoking too much . But as i said it being harmful is debatable since there has NOT been any real study and or proof as to these allegations of people being harmed.

 

[jclthe2nd]

don't smoke it. it's hella bad for you people can actually turn narcotic from it. stick to smoking weed and if your tested buy a fake bladder online or buy the drink cleansers. just stay the fuck away from spices unless you don't give a shit about your brain.

 

[Saint Grimm]

JUST SAYING, its far too soon for any of the claims of it being "healthy" or "unhealthy" to be substantiated at all for the time being as no long term studies HAVE been done what so ever .
Herb is best ofc but most people who smoke the synthetics KNOW that already, ATM the best thing to do is just use the synthetics (spice , k2 ect ect ) in extreme moderation as it is VERY possible to get tooooo baked off of them and in my experience very uncomfortable because of smoking too much . But as i said it being harmful is debatable since there has NOT been any real study and or proof as to these allegations of people being harmed.

A man in texas ATE HIS DOG ALIVE on synthetic pot. Other people are EATING OTHER PEOPLE ALIVE on synthetic cocaine! but no, there is no proof of this stuff being harmful....




Are you talking about the original K2 that came out back in the early 2000s? or the stuff made by "bocomo dew"? the one from the 2000s never got me high. And Dew seems to get me to high.... not mention there was a guy in texas tht smoked sum dew and started eating his dog.... ALIVE. bathsalts used to be the shit, but now their causing people to run around naked and eat other people? idk i havnt used bathsalts in a long time, but to me, its all in the samy category, fake versions of shit i love to do lol. but deffinatly stick to the real stuff. Its better for you, infact weed is acually HEALTHY for you! but im not gona tell u smokin k2 or dew or snortin bathsalts is wrong, cuz ive been there, done that, and had a fuckin great time with it. lol

 

[Saint Grimm]

oops. double post? lol

 

[imrealaboutbuyinggaia]

all of those legal shit is bad for you. Did you know everytime you smoke spice tons of chemicals go into your body? And k2 can lead you to a hospital ugh this crazy shit is dumb. Why can't people just stick to marijuana?