Is suicide right?

[I Peter I]

Suicide is a long-term solution to a short-term problem. There is no problem that cannot be talked about and resolved. I think suicide in some cases is right and in some isn't. Some people just cannot be helped as they won't accept the help.

@Silab King - I think selfish is the totally wrong word here. Selfish is a word that perpetuates the stigma that suicide does carry within society, and it is a totally counterproductive word to use to describe it.

When you conceptualize suicide as "selfish" it sends the message to the people who are going through mental illness and are contemplating suicide that those people "owe it" to their loved ones to stay alive, although they are the ones experiencing the pain. People who say suicide is "selfish" are basically implying that that person's mental health and emotional pain is not what matters and it is how their actions will make their family and loved ones feel that takes the number one spot.

Imo that is wrong.

 

[R]

Suicide is a long-term solution to a short-term problem. There is no problem that cannot be talked about and resolved. I think suicide in some cases is right and in some isn't. Some people just cannot be helped as they won't accept the help.

I think there are a large number of people open to help and try their damned hardest to get help for problems, but just can't seem to feel any better. How is a life long mental illness a short-term problem?

 

[Astonished®]

Well, suicide is when a normal human-being cannot comply with life's aspects. Now, I think it is sad to see people literally throwing away there lives as they have not seen the full aspects of life i.e their future. Sure, we all have those troubled times, though if we look to the future we can always see brightness of life, after all, it's only a matter of time that trouble consists of. It's all matter of perspective really.

 

[HEHEGGG]

I think there are a large number of people open to help and try their damned hardest to get help for problems, but just can't seem to feel any better. How is a life long mental illness a short-term problem?

But can you say there isn't a solution to the problems? No problem is absolute, but your life is absolute.

 

[R]

But can you say there isn't a solution to the problems? No problem is absolute, but your life is absolute.

In some cases, yes I can. Hence why people who survive committing suicide usually attempt again, if not several, times. Even after being given all the help available in after care. Some people just end up living a life they hate, and nobody should be made to live it if they do not want to.

 

[Wonderland]

How is killing yourself right? -__-

Those who do are weak mentally, they need to grow a backbone and adjust.

 

[R]

How is killing yourself right? -__-

Those who do are weak mentally, they need to grow a backbone and adjust.

You obviously have no idea what a mental illness is or does. You should stop being so plain ignorant. You're just giving the lazy reply, you have no reasoning.

 

[I Peter I]

I think there are a large number of people open to help and try their damned hardest to get help for problems, but just can't seem to feel any better. How is a life long mental illness a short-term problem?

In my opinion, most suicidal people do not have "life long" mental illnesses. It's quite common for someone to have suicidal thoughts to be deemed as mentally unstable or mentally ill, however I don't think that's the case at all.

Most tend to be happy, healthy people who at the time see no other option at that time and end their lives. It's easy for us to assume the person ended their life because of mental issues, but it may be because of an event in their life that they do not think they can overcome. Some people overcome these thoughts and get through it at the other end, but some people unfortunately choose to end their lives.

I therefore stick by my statement that suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem, in generalization. There are exceptions however, of course.

 

[R]

In my opinion, most suicidal people do not have "life long" mental illnesses. It's quite common for someone to have suicidal thoughts to be deemed as mentally unstable or mentally ill, however I don't think that's the case at all.

Most tend to be happy, healthy people who at the time see no other option at that time and end their lives. It's easy for us to assume the person ended their life because of mental issues, but it may be because of an event in their life that they do not think they can overcome. Some people overcome these thoughts and get through it at the other end, but some people unfortunately choose to end their lives.

I therefore stick by my statement that suicide is a long term solution to a short term problem, in generalization. There are exceptions however, of course.

Depression is a long-term, mental illness. Serious depression, anyway. When you're depressed you don't think rationally, and therefore events may seem worse than they are. But being stuck in that state, can just be an endless suffering for some. And if they choose willingly to kill themselves, why should it be up to anyone else to say if it was right or wrong? Of course people can say, I wouldn't have or they wouldn't have or she wouldn't have, but that doesn't mean the particular persons decision was wrong.

The matter of this debate is, "Is suicide RIGHT", so I'm assuming you're saying it's wrong.

 

[I Peter I]

Depression is a long-term, mental illness. Serious depression, anyway. When you're depressed you don't think rationally, and therefore events may seem worse than they are. But being stuck in that state, can just be an endless suffering for some. And if they choose willingly to kill themselves, why should it be up to anyone else to say if it was right or wrong? Of course people can say, I wouldn't have or they wouldn't have or she wouldn't have, but that doesn't mean the particular persons decision was wrong.

The matter of this debate is, "Is suicide RIGHT", so I'm assuming you're saying it's wrong.

You assumed correct. I do believe suicide is wrong in the majority of cases. I am not going to be very narrow minded and say it isn't in some cases however.

 

[R]

You assumed correct. I do believe suicide is wrong in the majority of cases. I am not going to be very narrow minded and say it isn't in some cases however.

I wouldn't say the decision was "wrong", just possibly misinformed. It doesn't mean they were *wrong* to kill themselves - it is after all their life and I believe they have every right to end it.