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Penises evolved for a biological purpose, but evolution doesn't prescribe what something is "meant" to do. "Meant" implies "intended for", and evolution doesn't have intents. Don't confuse hard facts with subjective morality.
That biological purpose was not a poop excavator.
Also, of course evolution has intent. That intent is survival of the species. Booty penetration does not aid in the survival of the species. lol
 
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That biological purpose was not a poop excavator.
Also, of course evolution has intent. That intent is survival of the species. Booty penetration does not aid in the survival of the species. lol

Lol. Intent implies intelligence, and evolution doesn't have a guiding intelligence. I'm sure you knew exactly what I meant, I just wanted to clarify, as this is basic 7th grade biology.

When my alarm goes off the the morning to get up for work, I sometimes lie in bed for 10 minutes savouring the warmth of my blankets. Does that aid in the survival of my species?

I decided not to have children, as I like having money, and I dislike having my sleep interrupted. Does that aid in the survival of my species?

Do you see where I'm going here?
 
Lol. Intent implies intelligence, and evolution doesn't have a guiding intelligence. I'm sure you knew exactly what I meant, I just wanted to clarify, as this is basic 7th grade biology.

When my alarm goes off the the morning to get up for work, I sometimes lie in bed for 10 minutes savouring the warmth of my blankets. Does that aid in the survival of my species?

I decided not to have children, as I like having money, and I dislike having my sleep interrupted. Does that aid in the survival of my species?

Do you see where I'm going here?
"philosophers are comfortable talking about animals having a “purpose” imbued by natural selection (to spread their genes). So if biological evolution is a product of cosmological natural selection, it has a purpose in a defensible sense of that term—and we're part of that purpose."

Also, getting more sleep does aid in your attentiveness and in turn potentially your survival. Regardless my point saying that a penis did not evolve to be put into a butt is not wrong. That is most certainly not true. And again, at no point did I bring morals into question.
 
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"philosophers are comfortable talking about animals having a “purpose” imbued by natural selection (to spread their genes). So if biological evolution is a product of cosmological natural selection, it has a purpose in a defensible sense of that term—and we're part of that purpose."

Also, getting more sleep does aid in your attentiveness and in turn potentially your survival. Regardless my point saying that a penis did not evolve to be put into a butt is not wrong. That is most certainly not true. And again, at no point did I bring morals into question.

You are missing the point.

Natural selection by evolution is quite simply as it is put; it's not necessarily a purpose, it just so happens that those capable of reproducing are the ones who spread their genes into offspring. It does not mean the penis is 'meant' to do that by natural selection, it just so happens that those capable dominated the gene pool.

Your argument can be used in a many of ways such as playing sports; risk of injury - therefore 'wrong' against natural selection. If people did what was 'meant' we'd all be producing as many offspring as possible and not risking ourselves of death at every instance.

Simply put, you cannot use that as an argument to imply another use for ones body part as wrong, when natural selection has no intention.
 
can you explain why men have pleasure in taking a dick in the ass

maybe it was ment to be this way, afterall pleasure in something is always the right way in society

That's not a reason, and actually has a biological function behind the "why."

Proper stool formation is supposed to 'massage' the prostate, which plays a role in the male genitals. It's not intended for anything else.
 
You are missing the point.

Natural selection by evolution is quite simply as it is put; it's not necessarily a purpose, it just so happens that those capable of reproducing are the ones who spread their genes into offspring. It does not mean the penis is 'meant' to do that by natural selection, it just so happens that those capable dominated the gene pool.

Your argument can be used in a many of ways such as playing sports; risk of injury - therefore 'wrong' against natural selection. If people did what was 'meant' we'd all be producing as many offspring as possible and not risking ourselves of death at every instance.

Simply put, you cannot use that as an argument to imply another use for ones body part as wrong, when natural selection has no intention.
I never said it was wrong in the moral sense, or really even in an incorrect sense. Call it what you want but if you can use a wrench to loosen a screw I guess it works, but it's not quite what it's intended purpose is.
 
"philosophers are comfortable talking about animals having a “purpose” imbued by natural selection (to spread their genes). So if biological evolution is a product of cosmological natural selection, it has a purpose in a defensible sense of that term—and we're part of that purpose."

If you don't include a source, nobody knows what you're quoting from.

Also, "purpose" is generally used metaphorically. It's understood that evolution has no guiding force behind it, so when "philosophers" (or actually biologists) speak of purpose, they speak of function.

Also, getting more sleep does aid in your attentiveness and in turn potentially your survival. Regardless my point saying that a penis did not evolve to be put into a butt is not wrong. That is most certainly not true. And again, at no point did I bring morals into question.

Of course it didn't evolve to be put into a butt, but what relevance does that have? This is a thread about whether gay sex is wrong, not what functions the penis evolved for. It's right there in the thread title.
 
If you don't include a source, nobody knows what you're quoting from.

Also, "purpose" is generally used metaphorically. It's understood that evolution has no guiding force behind it, so when "philosophers" (or actually biologists) speak of purpose, they speak of function.



Of course it didn't evolve to be put into a butt, but what relevance does that have? This is a thread about whether gay sex is wrong, not what functions the penis evolved for. It's right there in the thread title.
Well what exactly is your definition of wrong then? I'd say it's wrong to use a butter knife as a hammer, because you're probably going to break the tool. Sticking your dick in an ass opens you up to all sorts of infections. I guess by your logic chewing on glass is not "wrong"?
 
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I never said it was wrong in the moral sense, or really even in an incorrect sense. Call it what you want but if you can use a wrench to loosen a screw I guess it works, but it's not quite what it's intended purpose is.

You're not really providing a good analogy.. Surely if the task was to penetrate a man's anus, then the penis would be a cracking tool for the job. I could understand if someone was attempting with their elbow, then your analogy would suit.

Again, with the 'purpose', you could say these days it makes no sense to have intercourse to produce a child as in vitro fertilisation is possible. Having intercourse only poses risk of infections to be as bleak as your argument implies.
 
You're not really providing a good analogy.. Surely if the task was to penetrate a man's anus, then the penis would be a cracking tool for the job. I could understand if someone was attempting with their elbow, then your analogy would suit.

Again, with the 'purpose', you could say these days it makes no sense to have intercourse to produce a child as in vitro fertilisation is possible. Having intercourse only poses risk of infections to be as bleak as your argument implies.
Human excrement is possibly one of the worst things you could expose your urethra to. Good analogy or not the point stands. You should not expose yourself to it. Would you build a boat meant for traveling salt water out of high carbon steel?
You're missing the point of the analogies. The point is why would use use a tool in such a way that could harm it?
Is wiping your ass with your hand wrong?
Exposing yourself to feces in any way, shape, or form is wrong. Not exclusively man on man.
 
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Human excrement is possibly one of the worst things you could expose your urethra to. Good analogy or not the point stands. You should not expose yourself to it. Would you build a boat meant for traveling salt water out of high carbon steel?
You're missing the point of the analogies. The point is why would use use a tool in such a way that could harm it?
Is wiping your ass with your hand wrong?
Exposing yourself to feces in any way, shape, or form is wrong. Not exclusively man on man.

So in essence, your argument collapses if protection is worn?
 
i dont wanna stick my wick in a same sex bum hole..... but end of the day all theses man made morals mean nothing,nothing can be right from wrong... if it makes you happy do it
 
So in essence, your argument collapses if protection is worn?
Not necessarily, as it still puts the person on the receiving end in harms way. The skin inside of there isn't like your outside skin and is much more prone to tearing. It's meant to hold fecal matter, and if it tears you can end up with a pretty nasty infection in there. Still more dangerous to at least one of the party members, which still isn't the end of issues. :)
 
Kyle if anal done right no tears or any harm happens just fyi lol
 
Well what exactly is your definition of wrong then? I'd say it's wrong to use a butter knife as a hammer, because you're probably going to break the tool. Sticking your dick in an ass opens you up to all sorts of infections. I guess by your logic chewing on glass is not "wrong"?

When you say "use a butter knife as a hammer", the implication is that you're using the wrong tool for the job. It's not wrong morally, but it's fairly stupid. When you talk about anal sex, you're consistently using the word "wrong" in the sense of "immoral". I don't know if you're conflating the two on purpose, but please stop. There's a huge difference between "using the wrong tool", and "sinning". I'm sure you know this.
 
When you say "use a butter knife as a hammer", the implication is that you're using the wrong tool for the job. It's not wrong morally, but it's fairly stupid. When you talk about anal sex, you're consistently using the word "wrong" in the sense of "immoral". I don't know if you're conflating the two on purpose, but please stop. There's a huge difference between "using the wrong tool", and "sinning". I'm sure you know this.
I've repetitively stated I do not mean wrong in the moral sense of the word. "Wrong" is synonymous with incorrect. Dunno what your point here is. Also for the 14th time, I mean wrong tool for the job in a sense that sure, it somewhat works but you're putting the tool under stress and it's likely to break. Would you use a long skinny screwdriver as a pry bar? I mean it works but why wouldn't you choose to do that? Because you're going to break the thing.
 
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It literally doesnt matter at all what so ever.

Existential nihilism - Wikipedia

If nothing matters, why did you take the effort to post?

I've repetitively stated I do not mean wrong in the moral sense of the word. "Wrong" is synonymous with incorrect. Dunno what your point here is. Also for the 14th time, I mean wrong tool for the job in a sense that sure, it somewhat works but you're putting the tool under stress and it's likely to break. Would you use a long skinny screwdriver as a pry bar? I mean it works but why wouldn't you choose to do that? Because you're going to break the thing.

Fair enough. Do you think that gay sex will break penises? If so, why?
 
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If nothing matters, why did you take the effort to post?



Fair enough. Do you think that gay sex will break penises? If so, why?

I find you ridiculous and ridiculing you makes me feel slight pleasure.
 
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