Maryland Public Schools...

[ljc_og]

New rule in Maryland, if a young person (physically a male) who identifies as a female wishes to stay with the female students on a over-night field trip is aloud to room with the females. They are not aloud to be separated in a room by themselves. They will be given all the privileges as a female would. Due to the students privacy the school system may not let the other females parents/guardians aware that a physical male is being allowed to sleep with their daughters. What is your opinion and why? Is the school system right or wrong?

 

[Shredderbeam]

New rule in Maryland, if a young person (physically a male) who identifies as a female wishes to stay with the female students on a over-night field trip is aloud to room with the females. They are not aloud to be separated in a room by themselves. They will be given all the privileges as a female would. Due to the students privacy the school system may not let the other females parents/guardians aware that a physical male is being allowed to sleep with their daughters. What is your opinion and why? Is the school system right or wrong?

From the way you phrased this, your opinion is pretty clear.

Having known a few transgendered individuals in my life, I'd say that the social consequences of "coming out" far, far, far outweigh the benefits to being able to sleep in the girls room. Transgendered people are literally bullied to the point of suicide, very frequently.

If somebody is willing to come out as being transgender, I say they should be given every support.

 

[DarkSpark]

Well, there is more to it then just saying once off "I'm a girl let me sleep with the girls" you have to have a background of transgender action. And to a child whom identifies as the other gender they aren't going to be trying to do anything with the opposite gender that someone homosexual wouldn't... Do we have problems with homosexuals staying on the rooms with their own gender?

If you think they're just going to let sleazy guys sleep in the girls room it isn't how it will work.

 

[Mootrucks]

I mean it's not like they're going to allow people who have suddenly started identifying themselves as the opposite gender to sleep with the gender they identify as (or are they?), but I completely agree with Maryland allowing this to happen, I can see why some parents wouldn't though. Also how young are we talking, young is pretty vague or at least in my opinion, if we're talking like under 12 I can't see why parents would be upset I mean how many people under 12 are thinking about sexual things.

 

[Floridian]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, don't lash out at me for stating mine.

It's wrong and it supports a mental deficiency. Instead of helping these children understand what is wrong in their head, they are enabling them. There is something wrong with a male if he wants to be a female. Every gender is born with natural instinctive attractions to the other gender. If the specimen is lacking these attributes than they are either A) lying and seeking attention, B) have a genetic mutation, or C) have a severe mental disability or distortion. Enabling them to act in antisocial and unnatural manners is wrong.

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, don't lash out at me for stating mine.

It's wrong and it supports a mental deficiency. Instead of helping these children understand what is wrong in their head, they are enabling them. There is something wrong with a male if he wants to be a female. Every gender is born with natural instinctive attractions to the other gender. If the specimen is lacking these attributes than they are either A) lying and seeking attention, B) have a genetic mutation, or C) have a severe mental disability or distortion. Enabling them to act in antisocial and unnatural manners is wrong.

How do you go about helping these children understand what is wrong in their head?

 

[Chris]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, don't lash out at me for stating mine.

It's wrong and it supports a mental deficiency. Instead of helping these children understand what is wrong in their head, they are enabling them. There is something wrong with a male if he wants to be a female. Every gender is born with natural instinctive attractions to the other gender. If the specimen is lacking these attributes than they are either A) lying and seeking attention, B) have a genetic mutation, or C) have a severe mental disability or distortion. Enabling them to act in antisocial and unnatural manners is wrong.

Agree with this 100%. Transgender is a mental illness, and should be helped with medicine/drugs. It should not be helped by altering their body drastically with surgery + saying their illness is okay and to stay with the gender they "identity" as. Which also makes the gender they identify as extremely uncomfortable.

The problem is if you tell the transgender community it's a mental illness and that they should be helped with medicine and drugs compared to surgery they flip shit. They take huge offence to it and it becomes hard to talk with them logically.

 

[Floridian]

How do you go about helping these children understand what is wrong in their head?

I'm not a psychiatrist. I'd start with them.

 

I'm not a psychiatrist. I'd start with them.

So-called “conversion therapy,” sometimes known as “reparative therapy,” is a range of dangerous and discredited practices that falsely claim to change a person’s sexual orientation or gender identity or expression. Such practices have been rejected by every mainstream medical and mental health organization for decades, but due to continuing discrimination and societal bias against LGBTQ people, some practitioners continue to conduct conversion therapy. Minors are especially vulnerable, and conversion therapy can lead to depression, anxiety, drug use, homelessness, and suicide.

The Lies and Dangers of "Conversion Therapy" | Human Rights Campaign

You should do some research before spewing nonsense.

 

The problem is if you tell the transgender community it's a mental illness and that they should be helped with medicine and drugs compared to surgery they flip shit. They take huge offence to it and it becomes hard to talk with them logically.

Which medicine will cure them of their "illness"?

 

[Chris]

Which medicine will cure them of their "illness"?

I'm not a doctor or a scientist, so I can't recommend a good one.

 

I'm not a doctor or a scientist, so I can't recommend a good one.

There is no medicine they can take that will magically change their sexual orientation. This should be obvious.

 

[Floridian]

The Lies and Dangers of "Conversion Therapy" | Human Rights Campaign

You should do some research before spewing nonsense.

I didn't specifically recommend "conversion therapy" because I didn't even know what it was before you posted it.

I stated my opinion, I'm not going to argue with you about one specific part of my post.

I even added in there to please not lash out at me for staking my opinion. You do this across threads, angrily questioning someone for having an opinion that you don't agree with.

Don't get butt hurt. Owait lol

 

I didn't specifically recommend "conversion therapy" because I didn't even know what it was before you posted it.

I stated my opinion, I'm not going to argue with you about one specific part of my post.

I even added in there to please not lash out at me for staking my opinion. You do this across threads, angrily questioning someone for having an opinion that you don't agree with.

Don't get butt hurt. Owait lol

The longstanding consensus of the behavioral and social sciences, and the health and mental health professions, since the 1970s, is that homosexuality and bisexuality are per se normal and positive variations of human sexual orientation.The research consistently failed to provide any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality or bisexuality as a disorder or abnormality. There is a large body of research evidence that indicates that being gay, lesbian or bisexual is compatible with normal mental health and social adjustment. Because of this, the major mental health professional organizations do not encourage individuals to try to change their sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. Indeed, such interventions are ethically suspect because they can be harmful to the psychological well-being of those who attempt them; clinical observations and self-reports indicate that many individuals who unsuccessfully attempt to change their sexual orientation experience considerable psychological distress. For these reasons, no major mental health professional organization has sanctioned efforts to change sexual orientation and virtually all of them have adopted policy statements cautioning the profession and the public about treatments that purport to change sexual orientation.

Sexual orientation change efforts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not hurt at all, it just irks me when people spew ignorance without doing the proper research beforehand. Your opinion isn't objective, nor is it factually correct. I don't agree with fiction.

 

[Floridian]

Sexual orientation change efforts - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Not hurt at all, it just irks me when people spew ignorance without doing the proper research beforehand. Your opinion isn't objective, nor is it factually correct. I don't agree with fiction.

Your research does not rule out my other two options. Specifically (A)

Also, would you like to talk about the second half of the article you posted? The part that says SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH has led to the CONCLUSION that YOU SHOULD NOT CHANGE YOUR SEXUAL ORIENTATION and DISCOURAGES PRACTICES WHO DO SO.

 

Your research does not rule out my other two options. Specifically (A)

Let's illustrate the original post.

There is a child who pretends to identify as a different gender in order to sleep with the opposite sex on this field trip. For this to be believable, wouldn't this child have needed to pretend for a longer period of time, prior to the announcement of said trip? You're undermining the evaluation process and competent adults capable of making rational and common sense decisions.

 

[Floridian]

Let's illustrate the original post.

There is a child who pretends to identify as a different gender in order to sleep with the opposite sex on this field trip. For this to be believable, wouldn't this child have needed to pretend for a longer period of time, prior to the announcement of said trip? You're undermining the evaluation process and competent adults capable of making rational and common sense decisions.

I don't even know what's going on anymore because I haven't even addressed the field trip thing.

I agree that the mentors would responsibly uphold the safety and privacy of the girls.

But your posts are becoming increasingly confusing and I don't want to keep going back and forth publicly so if you want to discuss it add my skype.

 

I don't even know what's going on anymore because I haven't even addressed the field trip thing.

I agree that the mentors would responsibly uphold the safety and privacy of the girls.

But your posts are becoming increasingly confusing and I don't want to keep going back and forth publicly so if you want to discuss it add my skype.

What relevance would mentioning your (A) point have in a response to my own if it wasn't in accordance to the premise of this thread?

 

[Floridian]

What relevance would mentioning your (A) point have in a response to my own if it wasn't in accordance to the premise of this thread?

• Points A, B, and C were supporting my opinion that it is wrong for people with such influence on a child's live to enable the child to express his unnatural and antisocial disorder.

 

• Points A, B, and C were supporting my opinion that it is wrong for people with such influence on a child's live to enable the child to express his unnatural and antisocial disorder.

That doesn't make sense. You're saying the research done on the subject of sexual orientation doesn't rule out your point of people lying/wanting attention. How is that relevant if it isn't in response or referring to the thesis of this topic? That's not even a logical retort.