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Accusing me of doing this myself i already explained earlier there would be no reason to do it now. Could have done that earlier when there was more wealth on it. And use a VPN from the UK? Oh.. The account was created in the UK? I mean you live there but this was never mentioned it was created in the UK aswell. Also i don't have access to your home IP to recover the account. Alot of accusations based on nothing, stupid to try and put the blame on me now.

 

Yeah but all the information about the account was given. I was given nothing. Only the password i set it to myself. I did not know the creation date. The creation country, The creation IP, and any other previous password than the one i used myself

 

You mean after you got chained banned last week? Who knows if you lost more staking since then during your sunday night stake session?

You seem to be good at maths from your previous additions in this report, im from the UK + im the original owner = likely created in the UK.

 

You've had multiple password changes during the year as you've requested them yourself

Creation date = hans

Creation country = obvious

creation IP = confirmed by excelont he could recover without it

plus any additional information you could have set on the account during the year of having it - its not impossible.

We're getting nowhere, wait for a mod.

 

Duh, obviously you're from the UK. Everyone on sythe knows that. And yeah i can imagine after having an account for 8 years it would be slightly more possible to be able to recover an account. And no. I rarely lose money staking and as you know. I buy gold with you if i need any. Even purchased 500m-1000m with you a very few times. That also makes no sense what you're saying. Smh.

I would like to clear out some things why it's very obvious and likely Dieze did this:

1. I was not staking this weekend. Making it from the perfect excuse for him to say he wouldn't steal anything because there would supposedly no wealth on the account.

2. What he did was just change the password normally to first check if there was anything of value on the account. If there wasn't it would simply be 'weird' that the password was changed just like with the other account, and we would simply fill in a password reset and be done with it. But in fact there was alot of wealth on it so he had to change the email in order to steal it or it would be to obvious because if only the password we're changed it would directly lead to Dieze because he has control of the connected email of the account. ( Why would it get recovered now after 1 year being purchased and with no issues )?

3. Now because there was alot of wealth he had to check account 2 as well. So he did the exact same thing; change the password to check for any wealth. But there wasn't any on it. He couldn't change the email of that account aswell because i only recently bought it so it would be way to obvious if 2 purchased accounts would get recovered 'at the same time'. So he threw it on 'You must have mistyped the password or something'. It's so obvious....

4. In Dieze's shoes it would be worth the risk to try and get away with it because he has a good reputation on this website. Adding up the 2 accounts with one being recovered and all wealth stolen at the right moment and the second account's password changed makes it a 1+1 = 2 situation and makes it so obvious what happend here.

Things like this should not be tolerated on Sythe nor any other RuneScape related forums. Imagine ANY account seller could just recover any of their sold accounts with wealth on it, steal it, and just pretend innocent and get away with it. Any person with a good reputation on these forums could just steal billions of a sold account if they would know the right time when to recover; pretend innocent, and get away with it. That shouldn't be tolerated.

I demand a full refund of the stolen wealth ~1.6b 07 and my money back for both accounts that i purchased of Dieze because clearly they are not secure for me to play on.

This story stands. Mods can decide.

 

account isnt near 8 years old fyi, the account you've had ownership for now almost as long as i have had it

 

I was reffering to the account Excelont was mentioning. And i'm not a braindead. If it was 8 years old it would have had a username login. Smh.

 

Sorry for posting here, but actual informations have to be written:

If the account was recovered by their owner before, noone can recover it unless they provide BETTER info than before.

So are you trying to say by having Creation date at "hans" and Creation country that's going to help? hell no.

The only way to recover info runs like a cycle, if you recover it, the next recover should be either the SAME info, or BETTER info.

Your replies make no sense, and it's obvious it was that you since you had the original EMAIL under your property.

 

Running round in circles here better to leave it up to the moderators to determine what action should be taken.

Better info such as? Payment info perhaps? There has been cases in the past where new owners of accounts have been able to recover accounts even with newer and more relevant info - i've not done too much digging but a quick reddit search brought up this

How Jagex is refusing to give me back my account I made 10 years ago because someone else frequently pays for solomon items. • r/2007scape

EDIT: ^ regarding above im not meaning he has bought solomon items, but its not unreasonable he could have paid for membership using card info etc.

All i know is that i didn't recover his account so the only other scenario is he or someone else has - and he is 2nd in line to be able to do it due to the duration he's had the account.

I have alot more reasons not to recover it than reasons actually to - with or without wealth this has a much larger impact on me than simply to gain some in game gold of which i had no idea how much he kept on those accounts, but generally from my experiences in dealing with him the impression i got is his gold is shared amongst accounts to avoid bans - as he always has to xfer to one account when selling.

Unless you work for Jagex and have evidence (Rather than assumptions) of how their recovery system phsyically works then i suggest you dont post further to avoid infractions

 

'Unless you work at Jagex' says you.

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He doesn't give out any recovery information. Yet i'm the one that recovered it? Also stats that he doesn't take back or buys back accounts he sold. But yet that was a different owner before i purchased it which i never knew until after the recovery. Any mods please? @video @Dave

 

I dont buy back the accounts IF the account recovery information is given. Please quote me in context.

Thats an observation that recoveries do take a few hours, im sure alot of people can agree that this is the case.

 

There u go. U mention you do not give out any recovery information and you don't buy back accounts if they no longer need it or want to sell it back. Yet you still did so and never told me about it. Nothing mentioning you saying you would buy it back if no such information was given.

 

You've completely misread what i've put

i said i dont give out the recovery information - in these instances i do buy the account back

when they demand the recovery information, i do not offer the to buy it back

why is that difficult to understand?

 

Unless you have additional information please do stop posting the same thing over and over and wait for a mod to reply, thanks.

 

Some input: I’ve been buying accounts on other sites and I had 0 info on a particular account I bought. It was a 1800+ TTL and I was given ZERO information on it.
Played on it for 3 weeks and attempted a recovery as I paid for membership once via card. Please note I had 0 info other than some recent pass changes and my subscription detail and I got the account recovered successfully on the first attempt. (HOW FLAWED)

Same with @chuckle i had a zerk I bought of him which he couldn’t recover himself (he created the account). I had the account for 1 month tops and the account got locked. Chuckle tried a few attempts to recover it to no avail even though he was the OO. Strange thing? My second recovery attempt got accepted.

The recovery system is flawled like mad so accusing dieze here is a bit rude especially with his reputation. You have had the account for over a year with your IP address attached mainly to you and that account (fuck knows how many membership + pass changes you have to go with it since the purchase to prove you own the account). You can very easily be faking this 1.6b thing. <- my opinion

I strongly defende Dieze in this situation because of his market rep and also I know first hand how easily accounts can get recovered by anyone other than the OO.

ALSO Jag mods don't just look for the original owner, they know about account sales and I highly believe they support appeals on those who have played on the account for a long period of time recently.

@JSand has had the same bad experience recently

 

I want Administrators to look at this report. Mods are deleting my posts and other people's posts defending me. @Panda mentioned to not post irrelevant information. Yet @Mercedes his post with information that has nothing to do with this report doesn't get deleted.

@video @Dave @Sythe

 

I can confirm this is correct.

*Hidden for market security*

however its an unlikely scenario as he already had pw access and impossible to prove so does not help this case.

sorry for posting but there is a lot of people posting incorrect info above which could lead to a unfair solution,
if you are not 100% sure on something please do not post it in a dispute

hope the mods can resolve

 

I’d also like to add onto this. I’ve bought an account before with all recovery info and recovering it worked perfectly fine. After awhile I decided to sell it and the seller wanted me to recover it for to prove that I had the recovery info. He gave me all the information including the payment no of the PayPal. It worked for me and when he tried to recover it with the info I gave him it didn’t work at all. When an account gets passed down the recovery info changes and makes it near impossible to recover unless you are the original owner and your IP is still the same.

 

What you all are forgetting you do not need to recover a account. you can change the email with just the login and password. its been done to me so i know its 100% possible looks like he changed email and trying to fraud dieze out of gp.

 

dieze would need to approve the email change first......