I'm having an argument...

You do realize there is video footage and pictures of osamas dead body right?

This, just they haven't released it, at least not to my knowledge. Also what use would posting the gorey pictures do if we were to post it on the news. I don't doubt they will make themselves onto the internet somehow.

Also, the US wouldn't of claimed that they killed Osama without knowing 100% it was him that they killed, just think about it.

 

[oblivion9032]

1. No
2. They did and they have unreleased proof.

 

[rsplayer31]

No sir, your argument is retarded. We can't make arguments with evidence we don't have. There is no point in saying "it's true there's pictures!" if we have no proof there are pictures. I understand that if this is true then yes obviously there will be pictures taken etc.. but like I said, I have my doubts that things went down the way they said they did. It's hard to imagine that with all of the resources the United States government has that someone who is pretty much public enemy number one can stay hidden for nearly 10 years. It just doesn't make sense. I don't care how good you are, one of the most advanced/powerful nations in the world > their cave operation.

By your logic all a prosecutor would have to do to win a trial is say "I have pictures of the defendant committing such crime, but I can't show them to you" and the jurors are supposed to just believe him. >_>

I just do not see the harm in releasing pictures of his body or having some sort of video proof it was him. As long as it didn't link back to any of the people involved in collecting the intelligence, there should be no harm.. I understand that the Muslim tradition requires a speedy burial but really.. you don't find it at least a LITTLE odd that all of a sudden we hear that he's dead, they did DNA testing, and then almost immediately they buried him AT SEA? He had to have somebody who would want his body. I'm sure he had supporters/family/friends who would've taken his body. If you can honestly say that these events are not strange to you, wow..

Your metaphor for this situation still does not work. There is a clear difference between a country holding out evidence, because of the impact it could have. You are not understanding my logic because for that situation in a courtroom you would need to present the evidence. I am saying that the US intelligence agencies has their information they are just not sure if they should release it. There are many things to consider in releasing them as much as I would like to see them myself. The pictures are said to be very graphic and the reaction osama's allies will take to seeing them worried our government.

It is not just the United States claiming that he is dead either. The United Nations have also confirmed the death of Osama. Would the United Nations make such claims without the United States presenting proof?

Because this is war I am pretty certain his body is entitled to the United States (Don't take me on that one though). They did not offer his body to his family because they would make him appear a martyr and terrorist would worship his burial site. They did however offer it to his homeland of Saudi Arabia, but they did not want it. Muslim tradition states they may be buried in earth or at sea.

I actually do believe that a man could be hidden for a decade, just look we still have not found Whitey. The problem is that as much as we want the United States to be a world police they simply are not. They must follow the laws of other countries. Getting through red tape takes time. It has been said we found his location through intel of an inmate at Gitmo. After that they proceeded to track one of osamas men.

Also I am sure that there are people who saw Osama. However, the terrorist over there rule in fear. Many of the poor locals are afraid of them, or they are given supplies by terrorist so they would hate to go against them.

I can see why people are skeptical about the entire thing. You just need to wait it out. Eventually more of the story will be heard and evidence presented.

 

[kill dank]

Also, the US wouldn't of claimed that they killed Osama without knowing 100% it was him that they killed, just think about it.

Because this is the 9th time people have claimed he was dead.

"""On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced quite bluntly: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore,” before carefully adding that “I have no evidence to support that.”

In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.”

In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.

In September 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan.

On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.

In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”

In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”"""

 

[neschn]

You people and your damn conspiracy theories. Just take it how it is, he's dead and what happens afterwards happens. I hate when people look into shit waaaaaaay too much.

 

[shawnwill1210]

i seriously doubt 9/11 was an inside job. everyone just loves a conspiracy theory.. no matter how ridiculous they are.

Also, i have no opinion on the osama bin laden thing. I would like to think they got him but until they release pics im unsure, and even with pics you cant be 100% positive

 

[tonitmeister]

I have read that Osama was actually a CIA agent years ago. He was supposedly funded by the US government and somthing happened. Idk what, but he fled. It is said that Bush bombed the towers to gain support from most all Americans to go after Bin Laden and fund a war. Perfect plan no?
I have no idea how much of this is true or bull shit, but I highly doubt that Osama Bin Laden is the person they say he is.
The US government is controlled by more powerful people than Bush and Obama. They call them the Bilden Berg Group, there is a whole conspiracy theory about them. It is also said that the group wishes to achieve "A United World Government." Again, like any average individual, I do not know exactly what is going on, but I highly doubt that a government as powerful as the US government is 100% pure.

 

[FireZ]

Because this is the 9th time people have claimed he was dead.

"""On January 18, 2002, Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf announced quite bluntly: “I think now, frankly, he is dead.”

On July 17, 2002, the then-head of counterterrorism at the FBI, Dale Watson, told a conference of law enforcement officials that “I personally think he [Bin Laden] is probably not with us anymore,” before carefully adding that “I have no evidence to support that.”

In October 2002, Afghan President Hamid Karzai told CNN that “I would come to believe that [Bin Laden] probably is dead.”

In November 2005, Senator Harry Reid revealed that he was told Osama may have died in the Pakistani earthquake of October that year.

In September 2006, French intelligence leaked a report suggesting Osama had died in Pakistan.

On November 2, 2007, former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto told Al-Jazeera’s David Frost that Omar Sheikh had killed Osama Bin Laden.

In March 2009, former US foreign intelligence officer and professor of international relations at Boston University Angelo Codevilla stated: “All the evidence suggests Elvis Presley is more alive today than Osama Bin Laden.”

In May 2009, Pakistani President Asif Ali Zardari confirmed that his “counterparts in the American intelligence agencies” hadn’t heard anything from Bin Laden in seven years and confirmed “I don’t think he’s alive.”"""

Wall of meaningless text. I could say I have 25 Million bucks as well but that doesn't make it true.

 

[kill dank]

Wall of meaningless text. I could say I have 25 Million bucks as well but that doesn't make it true.

No, It shows how many times people that hold positions of power in the United States government and world governments have already told us he was dead. What makes this time different from the last 8? The fact that they claim to have proof that nobody has seen? Or the fact that Obama found him instead of Bush?

Just google any date plus Osama on my list and you will pull up the info from credible new sites. This was just a compilation. Research before you call something meaningless. The point I was making is that the government is in no position to be believed after all the previous lies and misunderstandings regarding his death.

 

[FireZ]

Suggestions and accusations aren't anything. That whole list is total garbage tbh. They have actual proof this time. Its all speculation and 1/2 of those had nothing to do with the united states

 

[ShockWaveee]

Suggestions and accusations aren't anything. That whole list is total garbage tbh. They have actual proof this time. Its all speculation and 1/2 of those had nothing to do with the united states

Proof you haven't even seen yet are so willing to have blind faith in. The "they have no reason to lie to us" argument is bullshit, a lot can be gained from lying about this sort of thing.. whether it be his actual death, the manner of death, or the timeframe of death. If you can't see the effects both politically and economically that this sort of news could have, you're ignorant.

 

[jassmine12]

No one will like that his countryman should be killed. At least i don't want that.
so the answer is "no".

 

[Listen to Young Money]

Your metaphor for this situation still does not work. There is a clear difference between a country holding out evidence, because of the impact it could have. You are not understanding my logic because for that situation in a courtroom you would need to present the evidence. I am saying that the US intelligence agencies has their information they are just not sure if they should release it. There are many things to consider in releasing them as much as I would like to see them myself. The pictures are said to be very graphic and the reaction osama's allies will take to seeing them worried our government.

It is not just the United States claiming that he is dead either. The United Nations have also confirmed the death of Osama. Would the United Nations make such claims without the United States presenting proof?

Because this is war I am pretty certain his body is entitled to the United States (Don't take me on that one though). They did not offer his body to his family because they would make him appear a martyr and terrorist would worship his burial site. They did however offer it to his homeland of Saudi Arabia, but they did not want it. Muslim tradition states they may be buried in earth or at sea.

I actually do believe that a man could be hidden for a decade, just look we still have not found Whitey. The problem is that as much as we want the United States to be a world police they simply are not. They must follow the laws of other countries. Getting through red tape takes time. It has been said we found his location through intel of an inmate at Gitmo. After that they proceeded to track one of osamas men.

Also I am sure that there are people who saw Osama. However, the terrorist over there rule in fear. Many of the poor locals are afraid of them, or they are given supplies by terrorist so they would hate to go against them.

I can see why people are skeptical about the entire thing. You just need to wait it out. Eventually more of the story will be heard and evidence presented.

This. I'm sure the entire UN wouldn't claim he's dead officially if it wasn't true. Seriously, put all the conspiracy theories to rest.

 

[WhitePassion]

The photos and videos are unreleased by the government at this time but they do exist, they are debating whether to release them now or not, last I heard.

Quite naive to believe that...This is most likely just some bullshit to obama would win the elections..Epic how much of a hurry they were in to dump it to the sea..it wasnt even cool with the religious beliefs..They just needed to dump the "body" so noone could dig it up for proof

 

[Trophium]

9/11 wasnt a job i think!

 

[pcash]

osama's death was one of the strangest cover up by the government lol saying they threw him out to see why would you do that if you was looking for him for around 10 years seems to good to be true.

 

[kill dank]

This. I'm sure the entire UN wouldn't claim he's dead officially if it wasn't true. Seriously, put all the conspiracy theories to rest.

haha. They're all in cahoots with each other and in line to benefit from this.