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You said they never signed anything, no paperwork, nothing....
Make them prove you ever had their property in the first place, then go from there.
 
Don't worry. You can't really prove the verbal contracts before the police were involved, but they failed to uphold their end of the contract after they were involved, which is verifiable.

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This should have been the end to this thread along time ago.

You wont lose, the police and his family agreed on payment by Wednesday, which was not met. Forfeiting the laptop to YOU.
 
Here is a thread made by Sythe that is somewhat linked to your situation.
http://www.sythe.org/showthread.php?t=940339

You and the owner of the computer entered into a social contract. There was an agreement made by both parties but it wasn't necessarily written down. As the police know you sold the laptop, your best bet would be to have them contact the person you sold it to, and have them retrieve it for the $400 you received from them, as it was not your property. In a sense, you did have ownership of it as they had not paid you $160, but that did not mean you had the right to sell it, as they had not signed anything or agreed that you would be able to do so had they not paid the bill.

From here, that's all I can see you doing. In court, you will most likely have to reimburse the party for the cost of the laptop (by its retail value today), but the $160 they owed will be deducted from that and taken into cosideration as well. (Don't forget the police are your witness, as they verbally verified the payment of $160 by said Wednesday.) If you would like to fully win this, you would have to get a lawyer and make an attempt to counter-sue, which would be interesting regarding your situation.

I wish you the best of luck. Hopefully you won't lose much from this, but if there's one thing I can say, don't be greedy.

While it may not make a difference, situation may change from those mentioned in Sythe's thread as said "social contract" was with a minor.
 
The only problem with what is quoted above is that the police are involved.. And they make have records of you saying you have it etc. But on the flip side, they should have records on the family saying they'll pay you bye Wednesday. So, I would recommended using the police to your advantage. Use them as a witness in your defense. In the end, you'll probably end up owing them the 400$ and them paying you the 160$ out of that.
 
I like this idea. But I don't think I'd have the courage to be quit in court.

Court is Nov 9th. I'll tell you guys what happens.

EVIDENCE IS EVERYTHING.. do you have a lawyer yet? he should help you out.. go to legal aid.. its free lol.. just say i agreed with the police to receive payment * by this day.. wednesday?* and you didnt so you sold. Also turn it around on them and try and charge them for harrasement for calling and bugging you and having you sued after you told them not to call and to have payment by a certain date. :)
 
So let me get this right, You told the police when they came to your door that you would give the laptop back after they paid what they owed you. Or else you would sell it, Therefore you made a verbal agreement. I think the outcome will be (if you can prove you did sell his laptop for $400) That you will have to pay him $240 then keep $160 for yourself.
 
did anybody else besides you and the kid know about all the time and warnings you gave him? because if so i would ask them to get involved
 
Goodluck, man!
 
First of all sorry for my bad english.
You will lose the cord and will need to pay the price for a new laptop for sure. Example: I bring my laptop to a actual real laptop making service. I don't pay. They can keep the laptop till I payed but not sell them since it's not theirs.
Sorry but your fucked.
 
Interested in how this will turn out...but as it was said before, use the police advantage.

Good luck at court if you haven't been there yet.
 
The laptop was not yours to sell and you can not add terms to a verbal agreement after the fact, especially ones imposed by yourself unless you previously protected your right to do so somewhere your verbal agreement.

You handled the situation incorrectly and although you did have just right to sue for the amount owed to you via the verbal agreement, you did not have the right to sell his laptop.
 
The laptop was not yours to sell and you can not add terms to a verbal agreement after the fact, especially ones imposed by yourself unless you previously protected your right to do so somewhere your verbal agreement.

You handled the situation incorrectly and although you did have just right to sue for the amount owed to you via the verbal agreement, you did not have the right to sell his laptop.

He wasted his time and money on it and he did not get paid and they did not bother to pick it up, so he got what he spent in it and got out.

How'd it go?
 
I'm being sued and if anyone knows something about law I would appreciate their advice.

Let me explain the situation:
During the summer I was fixing my friend's BF's computer. He's a 15 year old kid but I was cool with him. His laptop had a broken screen. I charge $60 for the labor and $100 for the part. I take the computer and fix it within a few days.

I remind him weekly that his laptop is ready and he needs to pay for it. After three weeks I tell him that if he doesn't pay I'm going to sell it on eBay. A week passes and I tell him that it's sold. I didn't actually sell it I only told him that. His family flips out and calls the police, his mom threatens me ect. I don't talk to her or the police. I tell them not to call me back and hang up on them.

About two weeks later. Police knock on my door. Being a decent person I told the police I will still give them back the laptop once they pay the $160 that they owe me. I get a call from the police and say that they will pay on Wednesday. Two Wednesday's later I sell the laptop on craigslist for $400.

Another week later the police come to my house and ask for the laptop. I told them that I sold it. They ask for my identification and told me I would probably be sued. A couple week later I got papers to appear for court.


Does anyone have any advice so I can win this court case?

I understand what you done by selling the laptop cause he did not pay you the sum of money he owed you, however all in all you should not have sold the laptop at all since its not registered in your name and you dont have a reciept, although that kid seems a right D1ck and his family seem poor or just plain stupid, they do have the right to attempt to sue you because afterall the laptop is legally theres.

also you should have sent a written letter with what you want and need and when by e.t.c and kept a letter yourself as this is a very good way to show you gave them many chances and alot of time to pay you.

However goodluck man, but i also believe the family are lieing as to why you would pay alot of money to go court with a lawyer over a $400 laptop..
 
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