Illuminati

[BeeStar]

This is rather ridiculous. I can't believe people actually believe in this stuff, as said above it's all coincidences. I guess one thing I'll say is that if the "Illuminati" is so powerful, why doesn't it suppress the people who believe in its existence?

 

[Noam]

You claim they are real, yet I am unable to find a single legitimate source that proves this. please LINK us to solid evidence.

 

[Foxichu]

If the Illuminati is real, and all powerful, wouldn't they kill people like us that know of their existence? Exactly. They wouldn't have let their secret become so wide-spread if they're that good.

 

[TheJCDaly]

You claim they are real, yet I am unable to find a single legitimate source that proves this. please LINK us to solid evidence.

How about The Illuminatus! Trilogy. How about John Robison's "Proofs of a Conspiracy". Read the books, they include the proof, as i said RESEARCH is needed. This thread is not going to make anyone believe in the Illuminati if they do not, that is not the intention, this is for people who either believe strongly against the Illuminati, or people who believe in the Illuminati. The proof is there, you just have to read it. "Perfectibilists: The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati", is one of my favorites, which explains in detail the beginning of the Order, along with the influence in modern society.

 

[Noam]

If the Illuminati is real, and all powerful, wouldn't they kill people like us that know of their existence? Exactly. They wouldn't have let their secret become so wide-spread if they're that good.

Actually, to hop over to the other side for a second, the general public is less likely to believe something that is similar to a "Conspiracy" theory. the best way for the illuminato to make themselves mysterious is to take responsibility for random shit that happens, like tupac.

But the illuminati do not exist, nevertheless

 

[Herman Li]

Based off all these comments I bet no one watched the video I posted on the other page, /ignorance.

 

[TheJCDaly]

If the Illuminati is real, and all powerful, wouldn't they kill people like us that know of their existence? Exactly. They wouldn't have let their secret become so wide-spread if they're that good.

For debate purposes. Do you think they care about 200 people on a forum? They control money. Why would they care what the middle class thinks? It's referred to as a "secret" society, not because no one knows they exist, but because their members and intentions stay within their meetings. Just like an "secret" society, you have members who will eventually go against you. Tupac put Illuminati on the map in the USA with Killuminati. To say they don't exist based merely on that sentence is like saying The Free Masons don't exist, because in fact they are a "secret" society too, but have lodges all over America.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Based off all these comments I bet no one watched the video I posted on the other page, /ignorance.

Not going to lie i overlooked this, but now watching this it is a GREAT point. Nice Video.

 

[Herman Li]

Yeah there was another video I watched yesterday where Rockefeller admitted in one of his autobiographies (or something) that he joined the free masons and planned on creating a NWO. If I can be fucked I'll find the video at some point.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Yeah there was another video I watched yesterday where Rockefeller admitted in one of his autobiographies (or something) that he joined the free masons and planned on creating a NWO. If I can be fucked I'll find the video at some point.

Ah, i've watched a bunch of this videos, one of the most *scary* (couldn't find a better word) would have to be the michael jackson interviews, where he calls his label producer "The Devil" and says we have 4 years before its irreversable (added up to 2012 when he said it). I personally do believe that very soon there is going to be mass population control, not just a few thousand, such as 9/11, but millions, even billions.

 

[Herman Li]

Ah, i've watched a bunch of this videos, one of the most *scary* (couldn't find a better word) would have to be the michael jackson interviews, where he calls his label producer "The Devil" and says we have 4 years before its irreversable (added up to 2012 when he said it). I personally do believe that very soon there is going to be mass population control, not just a few thousand, such as 9/11, but millions, even billions.

Possibly. I'm subscribed to various youtubers and it's extremely interesting to hear their thoughts. One thinks around the 29th the elite are going to shut down the internet

 

[TheJCDaly]

It's scary to think of these things, it really is. The main problem is most of America thinks its not possible. They don't see that there is someone or something, a higher force, that is doing what they want in this country. They do not analyze what the government tells them, they just take it in stride and continue with their lives. I'm not saying that everything you read about the Illuminati is true, nor am i saying that they control "everything". I'm just convinced that they do have some sort of power over the things happening in this country, and i believe personally they have a lot of power. That is why it is great to debate, to see how others think.

 

[BeeStar]

Sort of going off topic, but I think I read somewhere that the Illuminati is because of aliens landing on Earth a hundred years ago or so? If that's not what you believe then tell me, but if it is, do you actually believe in that? /facepalm

 

[Herman Li]

Sort of going off topic, but I think I read somewhere that the Illuminati is because of aliens landing on Earth a hundred years ago or so? If that's not what you believe then tell me, but if it is, do you actually believe in that? /facepalm

No and I'd like to get the source from where you read that.

I wouldn't dismiss it immediately though, as you're obviously doing. You weren't around 100 years ago. You can't say for sure.

 

[Snatchmasta]

Based off all these comments I bet no one watched the video I posted on the other page, /ignorance.

I actually did watch that video, and the others posted by the same user
[YOUTUBE]eAt5Sg2dj9k[/YOUTUBE]
Video is faked^

Kind of kills the legitimacy. (same user)

How about The Illuminatus! Trilogy. How about John Robison's "Proofs of a Conspiracy". Read the books, they include the proof, as i said RESEARCH is needed. This thread is not going to make anyone believe in the Illuminati if they do not, that is not the intention, this is for people who either believe strongly against the Illuminati, or people who believe in the Illuminati. The proof is there, you just have to read it. "Perfectibilists: The 18th Century Bavarian Order of the Illuminati", is one of my favorites, which explains in detail the beginning of the Order, along with the influence in modern society.

Give me contemporary proof that the illuminati are real and are involved with the entertainment industry.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Sort of going off topic, but I think I read somewhere that the Illuminati is because of aliens landing on Earth a hundred years ago or so? If that's not what you believe then tell me, but if it is, do you actually believe in that? /facepalm

That is actually a common belief. Alot of people believe that there were orignally two islands created by god, and aliens inhabited one of those islands, and took 13 men (The 13 families of the world). It is an interesting theory none the less.

 

[TheJCDaly]

I actually did watch that video, and the others posted by the same user
[YOUTUBE]eAt5Sg2dj9k[/YOUTUBE]
Video is faked^

Kind of kills the legitimacy. (same user)



Give me contemporary proof that the illuminati are real and are involved with the entertainment industry.

There is no "proof" that they are in the entertainment business, after all they are a "secret" society. But as i just posted, there are books thats include testaments from former Illuminati members, read the books if you want proof they are real. They explain how and when they were started.

 

[Herman Li]

I actually did watch that video, and the others posted by the same user
[YOUTUBE]eAt5Sg2dj9k[/YOUTUBE]
Video is faked^

Kind of kills the legitimacy. (same user)



Give me contemporary proof that the illuminati are real and are involved with the entertainment industry.

That dude posts some fake videos for the purpose of getting his message across. For example, he has a video of a "secret revealed speech from bush", where "Bush" admits he is a terrorist and kills people or something. Obviously fake but he does it for the fuck of it.

 

[Snatchmasta]

That dude posts some fake videos for the purpose of getting his message across. For example, he has a video of a "secret revealed speech from bush", where "Bush" admits he is a terrorist and kills people or something. Obviously fake but he does it for the fuck of it.

So false propaganda pretty much?

Sounds rather hypocritical

 

[Herman Li]

So false propaganda pretty much?

Sounds rather hypocritical

?

It's like making a fake story of the events of the Civil War to show how the Civil War happened. For example, using the previous example I gave of the fake Bush speech; it was intentionally a fake speech created, as if Bush himself said it. He did not say those things, however, the youtuber who created the video believes he was responsible for those things.