Illuminati

[TheJCDaly]

This thread will be a discussion about the Illuminati. Basically I have very strong views on this subject, and wanted to know how others feel about it.
Warning: this is not a "friendly" topic. Anything is fair game, from the killing (or so called killing) of tupac, to 9/11. Do you think the Illuminati has control over this society?
And if you don't do you think a freemason/secret society group does? Please be in depth, for i am in a debating mood.

 

[Itz Destiny]

If it is real, I wanna join. Not trolling being serious

 

[TheJCDaly]

Honestly, who wouldn't. If it is real, some experts are predicting mass population control by the year 2050. Do you think a small group of people would be able to control population this much? Also, was Tupac really killed by the illuminati, or was he "killed" for album sales, so the "Illumanti" can have the one thing they need for power, money. Just a couple of things to ponder.

 

[Itz Destiny]

Honestly, who wouldn't. If it is real, some experts are predicting mass population control by the year 2050. Do you think a small group of people would be able to control population this much? Also, was Tupac really killed by the illuminati, or was he "killed" for album sales, so the "Illumanti" can have the one thing they need for power, money. Just a couple of things to ponder.

If you listen closely to the lyrics in "Hail Mary" he says Killuminati. I think this is what your talking about

 

[TheJCDaly]

If you listen closely to the lyrics in "Hail Mary" he says Killuminati. I think this is what your talking about

Illuminati is a secret society derived off the free masons. There are many types of Illuminati. Tupac is not the only one to speak against them and "die". Michael Jackson also spoke against the illuminati. Tupac was famous for going against the Illuminati after he was sent to jail. He claims he was framed. Just makes you wonder how much do they know? Katt Williams went on a rant against michael Jackson in The Pimp Chronicles Pt.1, in the end saying "You gonna get it" repeatedly to a chair he was pretending to be Michael Jackson. Then after he was finished with his show, he was accepted as a "diplomat". (Exact word used.)

 

[Itz Destiny]

Illuminati is a secret society derived off the free masons. There are many types of Illuminati. Tupac is not the only one to speak against them and "die". Michael Jackson also spoke against the illuminati. Tupac was famous for going against the Illuminati after he was sent to jail. He claims he was framed. Just makes you wonder how much do they know? Katt Williams went on a rant against michael Jackson in The Pimp Chronicles Pt.1, in the end saying "You gonna get it" repeatedly to a chair he was pretending to be Michael Jackson. Then after he was finished with his show, he was accepted as a "diplomat". (Exact word used.)

I know what it is and i must have misread the whole tupac incident. This is my first time hearing about the MJ incident though. Alot of people say Lady Gaga is in it with all the subliminal messeges in her videos.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Alot of people are "in". Jay-Z (edit:said kanye on accident) states in Empire State of Mind, "Jesus can't save you life starts where the church ends." Many Scholars have considered the Illuminati to be a devil worshipping group. This shows in alot of music videos, for instance, Jay Sean "Down". Lil wayne appears in that video with flames all around him. (some would say "devilish") While Jay Sean's Chorus includes the words "Even if the sky is falling down". This is a recurring thing in music mainly Rihanna, Lil Wayne, and Lady Gaga. The Music industry along with the Video Industry is said to be "controlled" by This Secret Society.

 

[Lym]

Illuminati was not "derived" from free masons, they were completely separate groups with the same goals.

They formed an alliance.

Also, I've read up on some things and almost all of the world leaders come from the same bloodlines as the "13 masonic bloodlines".
Which shows the world is mostly ruled by 1 family.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Please learn the definition of derived.
1. Obtain something from (a specified source).
2. Base a concept on a logical extension or modification of (another concept).
Theres some help. Same goals means the illuminati was based off the free masons, which means they derived from the free masons.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Illuminati was not "derived" from free masons, they were completely separate groups with the same goals.

They formed an alliance.

Also, I've read up on some things and almost all of the world leaders come from the same bloodlines as the "13 masonic bloodlines".
Which shows the world is mostly ruled by 1 family.

This is the topic of debate to many. Alot of people do believe in that, however, there are different "stories" (use word loosely) on how these 13 families were chosen, ranging from aliens to money.

 

[TheJCDaly]

Illuminati is secret socity & new world order I believe there's to meny signs for it not to be real but I say killuminanti

Thank you for clearing that up.

 

[Lym]

Illuminati is secret socity & new world order I believe there's to meny signs for it not to be real but I say killuminanti

Why would you post that?

Do you have nothing to back it up? Or are you just trying to gain post count.

Also, here are a few videos for people who are interested in knowing what the "Illuminati" is.
No one is forcing you to believe all of this, we all have our own opinions .

[youtube]BSlGsQnuvRE[/youtube]
[youtube]PBKDZhu-EZw[/youtube]
[youtube]3QBylh1UE8A&[/youtube]
[youtube]hPt7lSyfw9I[/youtube]

Obviously not EVERYTHING that has horns / is a triangle / has 1 eye = Illuminati. A lot of people go overboard with it..

 

[2pacâ„¢]

If it is real, I wanna join. Not trolling being serious

gtfo, worship god not satan, tupac was killed because he tried killing "illuminati" and he named it 'killuminati'

 

[TheJCDaly]

Why would you post that?

Do you have nothing to back it up? Or are you just trying to gain post count.

Also, here are a few videos for people who are interested in knowing what the "Illuminati" is.
No one is forcing you to believe all of this, we all have our own opinions .

[youtube]BSlGsQnuvRE[/youtube]
[youtube]PBKDZhu-EZw[/youtube]
[youtube]3QBylh1UE8A&[/youtube]
[youtube]hPt7lSyfw9I[/youtube]

Obviously not EVERYTHING that has horns / is a triangle / has 1 eye = Illuminati. A lot of people go overboard with it..

Was waiting for the all seeing eye to come up. This thread is mainly aimed for my benefit. Im just trying to see if anyone thinks like me. Like i said, i am very strong on this subject, those youtube videos are a good start, but to truly understand the concept behind the Illuminati you would need more information than that. I personally think the Illuminati was responsible for a lot of fatal tragedies in this country, ranging from 9/11 to HIV. I also believe America is in for a big surprise soon, resulting in massive death tolls. Just a few quotes from Lil Wayne's "President Carter" (who I believe in heavily involved with this organization."
"I change the stars on the flag into Crosses"
"So now instead of pledge we pray."
"Gorillas in suits, the holy war, the spiritual troops,
fighting over the mythical truth,
drowning in the political soup,
they shoot, missiles and nukes,
taking out such a pivotal group,
the body count is the physical proof,
and they thought drugs were killing the youth, haha."
Now this may seem like its just a rap song but read into the lyrics. He's state instead of "pledging" to the USA, we should pray for the USA. Just some things to consider.

 

[2pacâ„¢]

President George Bush is illuminati, the American one dollar note has illuminati on the back.

 

[Lym]

President George Bush is illuminati, the American one dollar note has illuminati on the back.

Why are you posting random claims? Do you have any proof that Bush is illuminati? I'm not saying he isn't... I'm saying you should stop posting accusations against people if you have nothing which makes it seem true..

You can't say anyone is a part of anything.. Without solid proof, but you can suggest the idea of them being a part of something with some evidence.

Also, the pyramid & eye isn't the "illuminati" it's a masonic symbol. There's a difference you know.

I'd like to point out something cool - If you draw a pentagram on the dollar bill the pyramid/eye fit perfectly and the corners of the pentagram spell out the word "Mason".

 

[TheJCDaly]

gtfo, worship god not satan, tupac was killed because he tried killing "illuminati" and he named it 'killuminati'

Prove this? Lil Wayne also stated, "Jumped on the celly, called makaveli, he said he was grape, i said i was jelly."
Why did we never see Tupac's body? His album sales increased massively over this subject. Think logically, the Illuminati controls one thing, money. Money controls the world, so in sense, the Illuminati controls the world. I don't believe tupac is alive, but i can't say i believe fully that he is dead either. So to make that assumption would be ignorant, considering there was never any proof that Tupac was actually killed. Michael Jackson also spoke out about the illuminati in multiple interviews/rallies. There are alot of MJ is not dead threads, some actually eye appealing. Could this be a tactic used by the heads of the Illuminati to recieve maximum money. After all people could make the argument that both Tupac's and Michael's Careers were on the decline. (Tupac w rape charge, Michael w/ Child Molestation)

 

[TheJCDaly]

Why are you posting random claims? Do you have any proof that Bush is illuminati? I'm not saying he isn't... I'm saying you should stop posting accusations against people if you have nothing which makes it seem true..

You can't say anyone is a part of anything.. Without solid proof, but you can suggest the idea of them being a part of something with some evidence.

Also, the pyramid & eye isn't the "illuminati" it's a masonic symbol. There's a difference you know.

I'd like to point out something cool - If you draw a pentagram on the dollar bill the pyramid/eye fit perfectly and the corners of the pentagram spell out the word "Mason".

I can honestly say this is the first time i have seen/heard of this. Very good point, and the all seeing eye is linked to both the Illuminati and satanism. Jay-Z is infamous for this, as he created "The RoC Symbol) which is a pyramid with his hands, along with his album cover (cant remember which), where he held the pyramid over his face only to see his eye in the middle.

 

[xsrafikx]

Prove this? Lil Wayne also stated, "Jumped on the celly, called makaveli, he said he was grape, i said i was jelly."
Why did we never see Tupac's body? His album sales increased massively over this subject. Think logically, the Illuminati controls one thing, money. Money controls the world, so in sense, the Illuminati controls the world. I don't believe tupac is alive, but i can't say i believe fully that he is dead either. So to make that assumption would be ignorant, considering there was never any proof that Tupac was actually killed. Michael Jackson also spoke out about the illuminati in multiple interviews/rallies. There are alot of MJ is not dead threads, some actually eye appealing. Could this be a tactic used by the heads of the Illuminati to recieve maximum money. After all people could make the argument that both Tupac's and Michael's Careers were on the decline. (Tupac w rape charge, Michael w/ Child Molestation)

That makes no sense at all with the final sentence you wrote. Tupac had already spent time in jail for the "rape charge" and it wasn't a rape charge it was sexual abuse. He finished his jail sentence and signed to Death Row and was making most of his money there and that is when his career peaked before he died. And micheal jackson was doing a tour aswell as his "Child Molestation" charges YEARS before that were dropped he didn't go to jail either.

 

[skillz4pealz]

Illuminati aren't scared anymore.

Watch the music industry exposed on youtube.
Watch the arrivals.

And 1 more thing, check out the lyrics of nicki minaj ft rihanna "fly"
I think they're not scared anymore....meaning not afraid to reveal themselvs.

Oh and also check out Eminem not afraid, obviously hes talking about the illuminati.

My 2 cents.