If the IP Act is signed then

[USER666]

You stated that we were saying Obama had something to do with this, when nothing was said about him having anything to do with the issue at all.

 

[SuF]

Because Jagex is an american company? Did you even go to the link? Don't spam my threads, as a mod you should know that it's against the rules.

If you are talking about SOPA... Let me tell you something... It does not in any way matter if the website is owned by a UK company or US company. If Jagex did not sell they still could use SOPA (if it passed) to take down botting websites. Thus your assertion that since it is now an American company does not matter in any way in regards to their legal ability to use potential laws to take out botting. Thus, my "useless crap" is not useless at all. It was asking a very valid question for you to post your reasoning behind what you are saying so I have a chance to understand what you are saying before I bluntly tell you that you are very wrong indeed.

 

[Element1]

Dude you know nothing about this so please shut up and you were just proved wrong twice..sad day for you.

 

[USER666]

If you are talking about SOPA... Let me tell you something... It does not in any way matter if the website is owned by a UK company or US company. If Jagex did not sell they still could use SOPA (if it passed) to take down botting websites. Thus your assertion that since it is now an American company does not matter in any way in regards to their legal ability to use potential laws to take out botting. Thus, my "useless crap" is not useless at all. It was asking a very valid question for you to post your reasoning behind what you are saying so I have a chance to understand what you are saying before I bluntly tell you that you are very wrong indeed.

You're misinformed on that. It's only companies based in America, you can read the law to it's fullest extent on the google homepage.

Dude you know nothing about this so please shut up and you were just proved wrong twice..sad day for you.

Show me where, please.. Read my original post.

 

[Creasy]

You're misinformed on that. It's only companies based in America, you can read the law to it's fullest extent on the google homepage.



Show me where, please.. Read my original post.

If sopa passes jagex can have the united states government shut down botting sites if they are hosted in the united states and if they aren't hosted in the united states they can require isp's to block access to the websites from the united states.

 

[M_A_I_N_FTW]

If they were to sign it, a lot of people will just be switching to out side of US Hosting, which would cost a lot of web/based company millions of dollars.

Simba and Scar is already based from Europe any ways, and even if it weren't it'd get switched in a week.

 

[pure chi]

Jagex is so smart about their legal proceedings lol. 55% in US, smooth.

 

[Guitarist1989]

When has that mattered? Obama is in office.

Who was really against obama? just because a few states in the south have a fair amount of racist individuals doesn't mean he wasn't elected, I think just about everyone I know preferred obama over the other candidates. and with most candidates being blatant morons who else did you think was going to win? You seem to think the US is the same as it was 60 years ago when that just isn't the case.

To the op: This whole fiasco about the piracy acts only define malicious intent [ viruses\keyloggers and such] and piracy, creating a bot for your own intellectual gain and posting it on your website would not fall under this catagory, it's the same as a keylogger, they're are not illegal but what you do with them might be.

 

[TRiLeZ]

To the op: This whole fiasco about the piracy acts only define malicious intent [ viruses\keyloggers and such] and piracy, creating a bot for your own intellectual gain and posting it on your website would not fall under this catagory, it's the same as a keylogger, they're are not illegal but what you do with them might be.

It depends on what the website contains. If the website contains at least 1 of Jagex's images, or if it links to anything against the law, it would be taken down and the owner could get fined, or worse.

This is more than just stopping piracy/malicious content.

 

[kmjt]

How does this effect botting? There are so many ways around it. Bot on a vps that isn't located in the US?

If you're talking about US based botting websites, that isn't a problem. I'm sure its not hard for the code to switch to an owner in a different country. Or you could develop your own bots.

 

[Guitarist1989]

It depends on what the website contains. If the website contains at least 1 of Jagex's images, or if it links to anything against the law, it would be taken down and the owner could get fined, or worse.

This is more than just stopping piracy/malicious content.

It would need to have something that would have been stolen from jagex, anything jagex puts on their website is fair game.

for example:

If someone on sythe makes a signature, I can take it and use it as my own although against sythe rules, this is not stealing. Now If I take that same signature and say that its mine or I try to sell it , then this act would take affect.

 

[sayin]

This is the only time I've ever been pleased to live in England.

 

[Niini]

Botting, piracy, everything will continue...

For U.S. people it will be harder if websites get blocked, etc... but they can still access it with proxies and similar things.

Isn't the whole premise that websites will be shutdown rather then blocked (australian so not so sure about specifics)

 

[SuF]

You're misinformed on that. It's only companies based in America, you can read the law to it's fullest extent on the google homepage.

Jagex still isn't based in the US, if you read your own article. All that happened is that the entity with a controlling share now is within US borders. Even if what you say is true (which I highly, highly doubt) Jagex still could have used all sorts of legal loopholes to make it so that they could send requests in. So as I said before, this isn't going to have any impact at all if SOPA passes.

 

[steelers2224]

I dont know why they're doing this shit with the internet but it sure does sound fucked up

 

[Ivy Bridge]

You don't need a proxy, just the exact IP of the website, instead of the name that you type in.

I'm pretty sure if the government wanted to censor something on the internet that they would do more than a simple name filter commonly found on school firewalls.

 

[TRiLeZ]

It would need to have something that would have been stolen from jagex, anything jagex puts on their website is fair game.

for example:

If someone on sythe makes a signature, I can take it and use it as my own although against sythe rules, this is not stealing. Now If I take that same signature and say that its mine or I try to sell it , then this act would take affect.

Here's a summary of the UK/US copyright laws:

http://www.copyrightservice.co.uk/copyright/p01_uk_copyright_law
http://www.copyright.gov/circs/circ1.pdf

 

[Process x]

When has that mattered? Obama is in office.

This actually made me laugh xD

Yeah, I intend to just work around it. Most irritating though.

 

[tribbis]

When has that mattered? Obama is in office.

You sir have no idea about politics.

 

I'm pretty sure if the government wanted to censor something on the internet that they would do more than a simple name filter commonly found on school firewalls.

PIPA allows DNS blocking method. SOPA would allow host take down and null routing.