Hitler

[asdfgasda]

So you basically don't believe in people speaking for themselves? I don't need to be manipulated, I have my own views and i'm sticking by them. He will try, but i'm not sure if he, himself will finish the job. He will set the building blocks and lay the foundation down.
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It won't hold.

No, people can't speak for themselves. In order to speak for yourself, you must be spoken in a computerized tone, so there will be no difference, and told only facts on what happened. But that doesnt happen now, so you cant speak for yourself. Everyone is manipulated face it.

Technically, he took it as if he was rejected by the whole race. Otherwise, you wouldn't just stop at killing the people who rejected him.

I agree with you.

I was speaking of Stalin, not hitler.

Oh ok.

People in slavery held meetings and killed their slaveholders. There were no main upbringings. Just minor. And if you didn't want anything to do with it, you could leave. Everyone is to blame.

Lol, you couldn't leave, the only way out was death.

The popular theory is around 20 million, Some say as high as 100 million (which I think is a bit high). Together with the lost of lives in WW2 and Hitler (Around 20 - 27 Mil). Russia would have lost close to 40 - 50 Million people. If the 100 million toll is believed together with the lost of life in WW2, Then their will be no one left in Russia. (May be 15 million at most).

What people believe about stalin ^.^

He no doubt killed more people than Hitler ever did, but the toll is still not something that can be counted.

He killed alot of people, but because it was there own people, noone cared. And no1 cared back then that hitler killed 11million people. They started war with him because he was taking over lands, and going against the treaty of versailles

I. I don't think Hitler was extremely smart. He failed his highschool studies and could not qualify the University entrance requirements. Although I'll admit he did have a natural talent for persuasion and public speaking.

Hitler was smart. Face it.

II. You don't understand. For many years, Hitler promised German citizens that he would provide them with Lebensraum (living space). As the war stalled in the Western front against Britain and the African Campaign wasn't progressing much as well, a Blitzkrieg attack on the Soviet Union seemed logical. The Russians were not prepared for war, they thought the Soviet non aggresion pact with Germany would last til at least 1942-1943.

Yes, i do understand that... Russians are always prepared for war lol.

III. Lastly you're wrong again. The Soviet Union was pushing back, The British had resisted the Germans in both Britian and North Africa, the German reich was about to be invaded on three fronts. The United States although helped to win the war was not necessary for the victory of the allies against Germany. The United States played an important part however in destablising Japan and ending World War II in the eastern theater.

Didn't bother reading this because you said i was wrong, when clearly im not, read previous posts b4 you post please.

You're a misinformed idiot. Why do all Americans feel that they've single handedly destroyed Hitler, crushed Stalin and pummelled Mao?{/quote]
I'm a misinformed idiot? How bout you read my previous posts b4 posting k? I'm american, and i dont believe they single handedly destroyed hiter. Germany crushed staling, and i dont even know who Mao is. Now read my previous posts, or dont post again. Simple as that.

The USA did not ''stop him in time''. The actual country that was responsible for bringing about Hitler's death was Russia, and Stalin's Red Army, which, by surrounding his bunker, led to Hitler's suicide.

Lol, all russia did was find him, and surround him.

No he wasn't, he was a soldier, and fought in World War 1.

You are wrong. In WWI, he was a MESSENGER BOY. Review your history.

You keep making references to Hitler 'taking over the world'. It's important to remember that Germany was already a damaged nation, and it barely took over half of Europe, never mind the world. (And what it did 'take over' was swiftly returned to its owner after the war anyway).

he took major's parts of europe. and yea, i know most parts were. But then b4 WWII, and after WWI, he got those + more back.

Sigh... it had to happen. Stalin simply was in the agreement so he had more time to raise an army and industrialise Russia, and Hitler was in the agreement so he could take Poland without Russia's interference. Fundamentally, the two sides would never be ideological allies, and so the treaty between the two would have inevitably failed eitherway. If he hadn't betrayed Russia when he had, there is no doubt that Russia would have betrayed him in the same way. Stalin was probably more devious than Hitler.

Uhm, i scimmed through what you said, and thats basically what i said......

You sound like a child, as if making such wild alliances is suddenly possible, given the history between France and Germany. Furthermore, France wouldn't have attacked the USA, and still wouldn't, being one of its friendliest allies.

If you were forced out of your own home, and had the chance of fighting your brother over it, with the help of your cousin. Im pretty sure you would do it.

You piss me off. The allied forces - YES, INCLUDING AMERICA - defeated Hitler, but the final touch was from Russia.

Now your pissing me off. The final touch? all they did was find them. BUT I WONDER WHO SURRENDERED IN WWI.. HMM? .....

America's particularly important event in Europe was bringing food to those who were enclosed by the Berlin blockade.

I hope your kidding.

France didn't surrender - it merely shipped over soldiers and civilians across the English Channel having been chased up to the coast by opposing soldiers. France was one of the victors, rewarded in the peace treaty, too.

They were surrounded cuz those dumbasses didnt protect the forest. So they fled to britain, in result of hitler taking over france. so they did surrender.

Please explain America's efforts in the Berlin blockade, then.

Sigh...

Am I the only one who finds this sentence utterly paradoxical?

What sentence? I cant see the quote.

Hitler is believed to have killed 11,000,000.
Stalin is believed to have killed 20,000,000 - 60,000,000.

Stalin killed alot more. but thats not why everyone was mad at them. If they only killed people, no1 would of been pissed. They got pissed because he was taking over THEIR COLONIES IN EUROPE.

You realize that you just said something really retarded. Russias main defence is the size of the country, but the second best defence is the climate. Hitler lost more then half his army to the bitter conditions of Russia while attacking, and had lost majorly, because of the climate, not because of the population.

^correct me if i'm wrong.

Sir, your retarded. Russia's #1 defense is there population, which you obviously agreed with me on. And btw, hitler still won, so i don't see how their climate had anything to do with it.

The US weren't the only people in the war you know...
You act as if the US were the only people in the war, and that they saved the world...

I dont act like that, maybe if you wernt lazy and read people posts except for the first one, you would know that. Im done explaining to morons to read prior posts b4 posting.

 

[The Riddler_]

No, people can't speak for themselves. In order to speak for yourself, you must be spoken in a computerized tone, so there will be no difference, and told only facts on what happened. But that doesnt happen now, so you cant speak for yourself. Everyone is manipulated face it.

Not technically manipulation if you already knew before someone said something. I said it first, you can't claim it was your idea. Mainly, you were influenced if it is 100% facts. Manipulation typically is being "taught" to think something that is wrong, is good.

 

[asdfgasda]

Not technically manipulation if you already knew before someone said something. I said it first, you can't claim it was your idea. Mainly, you were influenced if it is 100% facts. Manipulation typically is being "taught" to think something that is wrong, is good.

Only true way to speak for yourself is. If your born, isolated for years untill you can speak and think. Then a computer teaches you every side of the story. And you can only then choose your words. But, since we live in different countries, we are taught the different sides. So we never really think for ourselves, we think what our teachers wish us to think.

Manipulated doesnt really mean if its wrong, you can be manipulated into thinking a good thing.

 

[The Riddler_]

Only true way to speak for yourself is. If your born, isolated for years untill you can speak and think. Then a computer teaches you every side of the story. And you can only then choose your words. But, since we live in different countries, we are taught the different sides. So we never really think for ourselves, we think what our teachers wish us to think.

Manipulated doesnt really mean if its wrong, you can be manipulated into thinking a good thing.

Your thinking manipulation as Yellow Journalism. Stating facts but with details explained on how the person thought of it is how I think you're thinking of it.

 

[Wilson1992]

Hitler was smart. Face it.

Prove to me he is. He also failed to rise higher than corporal in the German Empire army due to his lack of leadership.

Lol, all russia did was find him, and surround him.

The Russian red army ended up annihalating the German defences in the eastern front pushing into Berlin in May 1945.

You are wrong. In WWI, he was a MESSENGER BOY. Review your history.

He also fought bravely in the front lines. He was awarded the Iron Cross for his actions twice.

If you were forced out of your own home, and had the chance of fighting your brother over it, with the help of your cousin. Im pretty sure you would do it.

How are French brothers to Germany? They had a war, the Franco-Prussian war in 1870, 70 years before World War 2. They also fought each other in World War I, only 21 years before the start of World War 2.

They were surrounded cuz those dumbasses didnt protect the forest. So they fled to britain, in result of hitler taking over france. so they did surrender

No. read the Battle of France 1940 on google.

Sir, your retarded. Russia's #1 defense is there population, which you obviously agreed with me on. And btw, hitler still won, so i don't see how their climate had anything to do with it.

No nation since Peter the Great has attacked Russia during winter and came out victorious. I told you in my last post. Russias huge mass of land combined with climate is hard to conquer.

 

[+ChrisHansen^]

I don't know if this was already posted,
But Hitler could of won the war against Russia if he didn't split his Panzer division, While the Panzer's were in route to the border of what I believe is Italy or Romania, He made the sudden, And what would prove to be fatal decision of having half of the division Blitzkreig Russia, Thus not providing enough support. Another major factor in the downfall was the orders to pursue the Russian army into Moscow, Which in turn led to the Nazi troops being caught in the harsh Russian winter.
Another fact you may not know was Hitler was inspired to come to power by Nostradamus.

Out of the deepest part of the west of Europe.

From poor people a young child shall be born.

Who with his tongue shall seduce many people

His fame will increase in the Eastern Kingdom.



Adolph Hitler was born in Linz, Austria, which lies on the Danube River. Another quatrain points to a personality that would originate from this area. Consider Century 4, Quatrain 68(3) as follows:



In the year that is to come soon, and not far from Venus.

The two greatest ones of Asia and Africa.

Shall be said to come from the Rhine and Hister [Hitler]

Crying and tears shall be at Malta on the Italian Shore.



Hister happens to be an ancient Latin word for the Danube River where Adolph Hitler was born. Max de Fontbrune's book and the result of World War II brought Nostradamus great fame as the prophet of the 20th century.

 

[T R 1 B A L]

You are wrong. In WWI, he was a MESSENGER BOY. Review your history

He was more than a messenger boy, he was a messenger/runner which passed messages from the front line trenches to the reserve trenches, a job which only the fittest of soldiers got, and he left the army a lance-corporal.

He received the iron cross first class for his participation in the first world war.

 

[Marinock]

Actually, the reason they nuked Japan was because they were afraid that woman and children would be waiting at the beach for the troops..and they didn't want to have to kill them. Their alternate solution was dropping the bombs.

tisk tisk =p. the ''real'' reason was because a full scale invasion would cost around 500,000+soldier lives, not cause of women and children.

 

[BrianTirae]

Hitler played all his cards correctly until near the end.

United states was already in a war with Japan and distracted...
Europe wouldn't be the same if Hitler didn't back stab the Russians If russia was still allied with Germans then the attack on the west from United kingdom, Canada, and United States would have failed. Hitler went crazy with power near the end and after the beach of Normandy was over run... That just got him fucked.

 

[A86753]

Hitler played all his cards correctly until near the end.

United states was already in a war with Japan and distracted...
Europe wouldn't be the same if Hitler didn't back stab the Russians If russia was still allied with Germans then the attack on the west from United kingdom, Canada, and United States would have failed. Hitler went crazy with power near the end and after the beach of Normandy was over run... That just got him fucked.

What do you mean the U.S. was already in a war with Japan?

 

[TJ]

tisk tisk =p. the ''real'' reason was because a full scale invasion would cost around 500,000+soldier lives, not cause of women and children.

No kidding, the Japan soldiers are taught to fight till the death. If they surrender, they are thought to be traitors of the country and would rather kill themselves then go back to them. The woman and children would of fought, as well because they were united for their country.

 

[The Riddler_]

No kidding, the Japan soldiers are taught to fight till the death. If they surrender, they are thought to be traitors of the country and would rather kill themselves then go back to them. The woman and children would of fought, as well because they were united for their country.

Something is wrong with Asians and dishonor.

 

[asdfgasda]

Something is wrong with Asians and dishonor.

Lol!!!

Anyway, i've just read through everything and forgot to quote some things.

How can you say prove to you that hitler wasnt smart? (Not you riddler, Wilson)
And he was the ruler of Germany..

 

[TJ]

Lol!!!

Anyway, i've just read through everything and forgot to quote some things.

How can you say prove to you that hitler was smart? (Not you riddler, Wilson)
And he was the ruler of Germany..

He was pretty smart. Anyone that can go from nothing to everything within a decade must know what he is doing. Granted that Germany was already messed up with the huge inflation that they had, he still gave amazing speeches and made a lot of people that would never turn their back on a person, turn their back and start the killings of them.

 

[asdfgasda]

He was pretty smart. Anyone that can go from nothing to everything within a decade must know what he is doing. Granted that Germany was already messed up with the huge inflation that they had, he still gave amazing speeches and made a lot of people that would never turn their back on a person, turn their back and start the killings of them.

Yea i know , i made a typo, i meant to say "wasnt" not "was".

 

[Wilson1992]

Lol!!!

Anyway, i've just read through everything and forgot to quote some things.

How can you say prove to you that hitler wasnt smart? (Not you riddler, Wilson)
And he was the ruler of Germany..[/QUOTES]

Simple. He had more intelligent officials who weaved the magic on Germany for him.

 

[iown1234]

it was pretty much the britains and france and the United states fault for letting the german army get that powerful as in the treaty of versaille it says the cannot build an army, but since no one checked on it, they got powerful.

But as i read some prevouis posts (III. Lastly you're wrong again. The Soviet Union was pushing back, The British had resisted the Germans in both Britian and North Africa, the German reich was about to be invaded on three fronts. The United States although helped to win the war was not necessary for the victory of the allies against Germany. The United States played an important part however in destablising Japan and ending World War II in the eastern theater.)

Go research the battle of the bulge, if it wasent for the americans, germany could have turned the tide right back around just because of one battle (hitler's last offensive surge.)

 

[BrianTirae]

What do you mean the U.S. was already in a war with Japan?

United States goverment was collecting oil from Japanese territory and they well knew the consequences. Unfortunatly the Chinese allowed it and that really upset the bond with China and Japan. Which led to Japan attacking Pearl Harbour and taking Chinese war prisoners in.

Japan wouldn't attack the United states just for the fun of it....:noworry:

 

[Wilson1992]

United States goverment was collecting oil from Japanese territory and they well knew the consequences. Unfortunatly the Chinese allowed it and that really upset the bond with China and Japan. Which led to Japan attacking Pearl Harbour and taking Chinese war prisoners in.

Japan wouldn't attack the United states just for the fun of it....:noworry:

What the hell? China-Japan bond? The Japanese annexed Manchuria in 1931 and then went to war with China four years before Pearl Harbor.

 

[running down a dream]

really hitler was not that bad a man he helped bring germany back to health.

i think that america should do what hitler did it might help us through the economy lol.