Heros' "Skilling" AKA Botting Service

[2001]

I paid Heros 350m rs3 for 60 - 80 mining on my HCIM. He was not able to finish the order since he was sick - he only got me to level 68 mining. I got my money back for the experience he did not get and everything seemed fine. Some time later I try logging back in, which I can't since Heros has used a macro on my account. I have never used a client like osbuddy or anything that could've triggered the macrodetection, so I know that the only reason for my PERMANENT ban is Heros.

Now Heros is saying that he hired a worker, that he can't name or give out any info about, was the one who allegedly got my account banned. He can not give out skype to this individual or anything.

I have not had any offenses before this, and I find it very weird that my account got banned on the fifteenth, the day my order was finished. I have skype conversations and videos of me trading over the gold, which can be screenshotted and so on if necessary.

Heros won't pay me any damages since he "hasn't contacted his worker". I want money for the rs3 and 07 account lost or an account as a replacement.

Even if Heros wasn't the one who botted on my account he still is the one who stands responsible here - he shouldn't have to talk to his worker in order to pay the damages.

Happy to give evidence needed, just ask!

Proof: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

Conversation log: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

My offenses: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

 

[2001]

[2017-06-09 13:02:01] Heros: Hey, what's up?
[2017-06-09 13:02:10] Stenz: 60 to 80 mining
[2017-06-09 13:02:19] Stenz: How much would that be
[2017-06-09 13:02:24] Stenz: and how long would it take?
[2017-06-09 13:03:48] Heros: Osrs or rs3?
[2017-06-09 13:03:53] Stenz: osrs
[2017-06-09 13:05:24] Heros: Would be 53m 07
[2017-06-09 13:05:37] Stenz: how much in rs3?
[2017-06-09 13:06:03] Heros: Let me look up the exchange rates. One second
[2017-06-09 13:06:44] Heros: 270m rs3
[2017-06-09 13:07:08] Stenz: Alright
[2017-06-09 13:07:12] Stenz: I'll pay in rs3
[2017-06-09 13:07:18] Stenz: Where do we meet?
[2017-06-09 13:08:38] Heros: World 119 Edgeville lodestone if possible
[2017-06-09 13:09:19] Heros: Trade Lorasda
[2017-06-09 13:11:26] Stenz: When can I expect to have 80 mining?
[2017-06-09 13:11:33] Stenz: And it wont be powermining, right?
[2017-06-09 13:11:50] Heros: 3-4 days. I was planning on powermining iron.
[2017-06-09 13:12:06] Heros: As it's about 15 hours faster.
[2017-06-09 13:12:48] Stenz: Could you do fally mine in stead
[2017-06-09 13:13:02] Heros: Motherload mine?
[2017-06-09 13:13:08] Stenz: ye
[2017-06-09 13:13:21] Heros: If so I would have to increase the price due to taking longer
[2017-06-09 13:13:28] Stenz: to..?
[2017-06-09 13:13:51] Heros: You're looking at 19.5m 07 or 100m rs3 additionally
[2017-06-09 13:15:22] Stenz: All I can add is 50m
[2017-06-09 13:16:48] Heros: I could in that case work out a deal where I would take 50m rs3 worth of the ores you get from the motherload mine.
[2017-06-09 13:17:07] Heros: I'm certain it's enough to cover that
[2017-06-09 13:17:42] Stenz: Let's say 350m even
[2017-06-09 13:17:49] Stenz: I'll be able to do that if I sell some stuff
[2017-06-09 13:18:12] Heros: That's fine with me.
[2017-06-09 13:18:21] Stenz: Deal
[2017-06-09 13:19:18] Stenz: Sending trade request
[2017-06-09 13:20:01] Heros: In trade
[2017-06-09 13:20:22] Stenz: you
[2017-06-09 13:20:27] Heros: 350m rs3 me
[2017-06-09 13:20:40] Heros: Recieved
[2017-06-09 13:21:09] Stenz: So when will you be finished
[2017-06-09 13:21:15] Stenz: Which date can I expect
[2017-06-09 13:21:40] Heros: Due to it being motherloadmine I would add 1 additional day to the estimate
[2017-06-09 13:21:52] Heros: So 4-5 days.
[2017-06-09 13:22:05] Heros: 13th or 14th of June
[2017-06-09 13:22:08] Stenz: alright
[2017-06-09 13:22:11] Stenz: info:
[2017-06-09 13:22:17] Stenz: **********@live.com
[2017-06-09 13:22:20] Stenz: ************
[2017-06-09 13:22:40] Heros: Thank you. Will get started in a few minutes.
[2017-06-09 13:22:48] Stenz: Cool
[2017-06-09 13:22:53] Stenz: Make sure you bank the ores
[2017-06-09 13:23:09] Heros: Will do!
[2017-06-10 23:54:43] Stenz: How's the progress?
[2017-06-11 18:43:04] Heros: Been great. Sadly it's going to be overall delayed by 1 day due to sickness.
[2017-06-11 18:43:25] Stenz: All righty.
[2017-06-11 18:43:48] Heros: Thank you for understanding.
[2017-06-12 12:56:53] Stenz: Still no progress :l
[2017-06-12 12:58:29] Heros: Just about to start
[2017-06-14 17:12:15] Stenz: You're slacking.
[2017-06-14 17:12:21] Stenz: Get it finished.
[2017-06-14 17:19:44] Heros: I won't be able to finnish it within the timeframe as I was in the hospital for 2 days.
[2017-06-14 17:19:57] Heros: If you wish I can refund you the remaining progress.
[2017-06-14 17:20:29] Stenz: Please do!
[2017-06-14 17:20:57] Heros: Sure thing give me a second to calculate it.
[2017-06-14 17:21:21] Stenz: Xp-wise.
[2017-06-14 17:21:29] Heros: Of course
[2017-06-14 17:23:26] Heros: Alright. Your order is 27% completed.
[2017-06-14 17:23:43] Heros: So let me just take that of the gp amount and refund you the rest.
[2017-06-14 17:23:53] Heros: World 112 Edgeville lodestone
[2017-06-14 17:25:11] Stenz: 1 min
[2017-06-14 17:27:12] Heros: World 116 my bad
[2017-06-14 17:28:35] Stenz: There
[2017-06-14 17:28:54] Stenz: me
[2017-06-14 17:29:01] Heros: Great
[2017-06-14 17:29:02] Stenz: 255.5
[2017-06-14 17:29:03] Stenz:
[2017-06-14 17:29:26] Heros: Thank you
[2017-06-14 17:29:29] Stenz: Thanks!
[2017-06-14 17:29:54] Stenz: Why did you go to the hospital? :s
[2017-06-14 17:30:19] Heros: I had a serious throath infection and was not able to drink/eat.
[2017-06-14 17:30:36] Heros: Had to have IV until I could swallow again.
[2017-06-14 17:31:13] Stenz: DAMN well that's pretty bad
[2017-06-14 17:31:18] Stenz: Don't deepthroat again.
[2017-06-14 17:31:33] Heros: Haha i'll do my best
[2017-06-17 22:07:59] Stenz: Account banned for macroing in OldSchool. Our macro detection system has been monitoring your account closely and has detected that you are using illegal 3rd party software which violates the rules of the game and breaches your terms of service with Jagex. Our team have reviewed the evidence and can confirm that you were using illegal botting software. Jagex are able to accurately detect all illegal 3rd party software and any promises from their makers about being 'totally undetectable' or 'no ban guaranteed' are inaccurate. As such your account has been permanently removed from game. This is not an appealable offence and we will not review it should you contact us by email, ticket or social media. Please take this time to familiarise yourself with the rules should you wish to create another account.
[2017-06-17 22:08:43] Heros: What's up?
[2017-06-17 22:08:54] Stenz: I've gotten banned for macroing
[2017-06-17 22:09:03] Stenz: I've never used a bot in my life
[2017-06-17 22:09:08] Stenz: So I know it's you
[2017-06-17 22:09:16] Heros: Oh. Have you been macroing since i left the account on wednesday?
[2017-06-17 22:09:27] Heros: I see.
[2017-06-17 22:09:34] Stenz: Will you pay the damages or will I have to report you on sythe?
[2017-06-17 22:09:42] Heros: Pay the damages?
[2017-06-17 22:10:04] Stenz: Got my rs3 and 07 account banned
[2017-06-17 22:10:13] Stenz: The damages of that
[2017-06-17 22:10:25] Heros: I'm suprised. The macroban was today?
[2017-06-17 22:10:34] Stenz: No, not today.
[2017-06-17 22:10:49] Stenz: Noticed it just now
[2017-06-17 22:10:55] Heros: Can you shoot me a picture of the offense page?
[2017-06-17 22:11:40] Stenz: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet
[2017-06-17 22:12:34] Heros: Can't seem to load the image.
[2017-06-17 22:12:43] Heros: Can you insert it here or reupload it?
[2017-06-17 22:13:06] Stenz: It loads perfectly fine
[2017-06-17 22:13:17] Stenz: Detta meddelande har tagits bort.
[2017-06-17 22:13:21] Stenz: Inserted
[2017-06-17 22:13:25] Heros: There we go, loaded now.
[2017-06-17 22:13:51] Stenz: gyaxo.png
[2017-06-17 22:13:54] Heros: 15th. My worker stopped on the 14th, but I find this suspicious just as you.
[2017-06-17 22:14:15] Heros: This is not common and he had been working for me for quite a while.
[2017-06-17 22:14:25] Heros: Would you mind if i contacted him?
[2017-06-17 22:14:30] Stenz: Go ahead
[2017-06-17 22:14:36] Stenz: Fire him
[2017-06-17 22:14:42] Stenz: And pay me my damages
[2017-06-17 22:14:45] Heros: Thank you will have a chat with him.
[2017-06-17 22:14:49] Stenz: Or give me another account
[2017-06-17 22:14:54] Heros: If he's responsible.
[2017-06-17 22:15:06] Stenz: He'll lie of course...
[2017-06-17 22:19:58] Stenz: What happened with you not doing the work
[2017-06-17 22:20:01] Stenz: YOU
[2017-06-17 22:20:07] Stenz: Because you were in the hospital..?
[2017-06-17 22:20:40] Heros: It was my order and thus I stated it like that. I cooperated with the order.
[2017-06-17 22:20:58] Stenz: All right.
[2017-06-17 22:21:04] Stenz: But are you ready to pay the damages?
[2017-06-17 22:21:23] Stenz: Or give me something that you grant is the same value
[2017-06-17 22:21:28] Heros: My employee seems to be offline, but he usually is at this time. Would it be fine if we waited until i can get ahold of him? I obviously want to hear what he says.
[2017-06-17 22:21:58] Stenz: Doesn't really matter what he has to say
[2017-06-17 22:22:04] Stenz: You're the one who is responsible
[2017-06-17 22:22:18] Heros: It sure does to me. We don't know if he macroed or not.
[2017-06-17 22:22:26] Heros: I've had similar situations beforehand.
[2017-06-17 22:22:39] Stenz: Ofc we know!
[2017-06-17 22:23:07] Stenz: What do you think has happened then? If he hasnt macroed
[2017-06-17 22:23:11] Heros: There's not much I can do for you at this current time since he's not online.
[2017-06-17 22:23:18] Stenz: What are the other possibilities
[2017-06-17 22:23:38] Stenz: Well you will have to pay me.
[2017-06-17 22:23:42] Heros: If he didn't macro I would sadly believe it's on your side, no accusations.
[2017-06-17 22:24:13] Stenz: I macro on the fifteenth and get banned the same day?
[2017-06-17 22:24:17] Stenz: Sure....
[2017-06-17 22:24:32] Heros: Could be before the date, but i'm not blaming anyone here.
[2017-06-17 22:24:40] Heros: Until i can get a word from him.
[2017-06-17 22:25:03] Stenz: If you "havent gotten a word from him" until tomorrow
[2017-06-17 22:25:11] Stenz: I'll have you banned on sythe
[2017-06-17 22:25:21] Heros: I would recommend you to contact Jagex and claim/ask someone elde botted on your account. If it's shown someone else did it you will most likely get unbanned.
[2017-06-17 22:25:50] Heros: I've had this situation before. I'm trying to help you and I know usually how it turns out.
[2017-06-17 22:26:12] Stenz: Nontheless you will still have to pay me
[2017-06-17 22:26:25] Stenz: You did not complete the services by manual work
[2017-06-17 22:26:29] Stenz: You did it by botting
[2017-06-17 22:26:38] Stenz: So I want all of my money back
[2017-06-17 22:26:43] Heros: On my side I don't see us responsible until i've had a word with him.
[2017-06-17 22:26:55] Stenz: That really does make no sense
[2017-06-17 22:27:05] Heros: We've had "extortion" cases before not stating anything.
[2017-06-17 22:27:20] Heros: It will be resolved don't worry.
[2017-06-17 22:29:00] Stenz: Still owe me 95m rs3 nonetheless
[2017-06-18 16:02:43] Stenz: Have you spoken with your "worker" yet?
[2017-06-18 16:14:32] Heros: Hey! He should be available in 2 hours or so. So sadly not yet
[2017-06-18 16:14:49] Stenz: I really hope so.
[2017-06-18 16:15:02] Stenz: If not I’ll unfortunately will have to make a thread
[2017-06-18 16:15:16] Stenz: It’s sad since you’re a 100$ donator and have lots of vouches
[2017-06-18 16:15:36] Stenz: You’re the one who’s losing out in this situation, sadly.
[2017-06-18 16:15:39] Heros: I don't mind you posting a report. I just know how it will turn out and it's easier to solve it here.
[2017-06-18 16:15:53] Heros: I'll update you.
[2017-06-18 16:16:00] Stenz: What is his Skype if I may ask?
[2017-06-18 16:16:25] Stenz: Or you’re not able to tell me..?
[2017-06-18 16:17:01] Heros: I don't think that's going to help the situation i'll update you when I get a word from him. Otherwise I recommend a report.

 

Please provide us more evidence than just a banmeter and raw chatlog.
Read: How to Report a Scammer; Report Templates + Video Tutorial & ATTENTION! ALL SKYPE PROOFS MUST INCLUDE THIS!

 

[2001]

Please provide us more evidence than just a banmeter and raw chatlog.
Read: How to Report a Scammer; Report Templates + Video Tutorial & ATTENTION! ALL SKYPE PROOFS MUST INCLUDE THIS!

Will upload when I get home, in roughly 30 min. All I currently want is an evaluation of the situation by a moderator.

 

Greetings and i'd like to open with the same statement as the other other complaint, i'm not going to argue i'm going to post my viewpoint and leave it at that. If mods want further information please contact me or post on the complaint.

I recieved this order on the 9th of June 2017 which contained an order for 60-80 mining on OSRS, but paid in RS3 gold.

Needless to say the order was started by me personally and my personal assistant (No relation to Sythe.org)

Everything went fine and the order was under progress, but got delayed due to me not being able to be on the account and my "worker" put in a couple of hours when I couldn't.


On the 12th of June all progress stopped on the account and all my other orders being currently processed due to a hospital visit. This to say no further training was done after that date. With that all orders were canceled/delayed and the ones which were canceled we're completely refunded with the amount of xp that was left until desired level.

I have spoken to my assistant which has been working for me since close to the start of my service and he claims he hasn't used any macroing software and I believe him whole heartedly due to his outstanding progress during the past year.

I can also testify for my own use of his account that there was no other client used than the default OSRS client.

I was later contacted on the 17th of June that the account which we had done our training on was banned. This lead to upfront suspcioun as always, but I ensured the client I would speak with my assistant and get his side of the story before I proceed further.

This delayed our conversation a day until I got a word from him (timezone differences)

I'm not quite sure what was done to the account during the days of 12-15th of June and i'm not throwing out any accusations, but I can state that our service has not botted and never will put a client of ours at risk with macroing software.

I hope this can be resolved as quick as possible and since the 15th I have no longer accepted any new orders due to these issues and I would love for it to get sorted out.

Thank you for reading this and I hope a swift and fair conclusion can be made of this ordeal.

Yours Sincerely,
- Heros from HerosServices

 

[2001]

What's the verdict, mods?

 

[2001]

Please provide us more evidence than just a banmeter and raw chatlog.
Read: How to Report a Scammer; Report Templates + Video Tutorial & ATTENTION! ALL SKYPE PROOFS MUST INCLUDE THIS!

Proof: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

Conversation log: Imgur: The most awesome images on the Internet

Should be enough proof.

 

[2001]

Bump...

 

[Panda]

@Heros please PM me the screenshots of every level you trained for him. Will give you 24 hours to do so.

 

insufficient evidence to show that @Heros or his worker botted on the account, as they use the official runescape client and you did not ask for them to take screenshots of the levels prior to the service there's nothing much we can do.