Free Weight Lifting Guide

[blazee]

Blaze maybe you should sit this one out, you are 15 and don't really know anything about the subject, you THINK you do, you THINK you know whats best, but what youve heard is misleading crap from bodybuilding forums and /fit/ and it doesn't make any logical sense. I suggest you stop thread hijacking this guy, you've made your point that you don't agree, now stop telling off everyone else he's trying to help, make your own thread if you want to misinform people and leave this one alone.

What does age have to do with this. The information i'm saying is obviously been taken into consideration by stelthebell since he edited his OP.

Tell me what doesn't make any logical sense and I'll explain it to you. I applaud him for making an attempt but if you're going to try help someone, do it right.

You have no say in whats a good guide and a bad guide because you know NOTHING about the topic.

 

[Deathsnova]

What does age have to do with this. The information i'm saying is obviously been taken into consideration by stelthebell since he edited his OP.

Tell me what doesn't make any logical sense and I'll explain it to you. I applaud him for making an attempt but if you're going to try help someone, do it right.

You actually have no say in this because you no nothing about the topic at all. Jesus some people are so ignorant and arrogant on this site, im just going to put you on ignore, maybe in a few years you will understand the basic concepts of bodybuilding. Sorry for the disruption of your thread by this child OP.

Some suggestions for your guide OP: "Breath so you dont get a hernia"
Specify that you should breath in when lifting weights and exhale when releasing the stress (Lowering the weights).
Maybe also say that for beginner weight-lifters it is better to start off by using machines (Mechanical Lat pull down, ect) untill you build some core basic strength and then you can move on to to deadlifts and bench press, ect.
Leg Exercises: Maybe specify that beginners could start off by doing Leg Press or Leg Curls, and the proper way to do these exercises on the machines (i.e. Leg curls put the seat all the way back, Chest up, Toes pointed to the ceiling,)
its a good starting guide, but needs alot more in-detail description of things and more details.
Also reccomend brands of protein and where to get them, and specify if you just want protein for protein shakes or you want something that makes you gain weight as well.

 

[blazee]

Maybe also say that for beginner weight-lifters it is better to start off by using machines (Mechanical Lat pull down, ect) untill you build some core basic strength and then you can move on to to deadlifts and bench press, ect.

Wrong.

Lat pulldowns will build hardly any core strength since the exercise isolates the latissimus dorsi's. Compound exercises like the bench press, deadlift and squat will help you build that core strength.

 

[Deathsnova]

Wrong.

Lat pulldowns will build hardly any core strength since the exercise isolates the latissimus dorsi's. Compound exercises like the bench press, deadlift and squat will help you build that core strength.

False, because i didn't just say "JUST DO LAT PULLDOWNS", i said lat pulldowns, ect, meaning other machines like vertical row, chest press, ect.
If your not going to have an intelligent discussion please just refrain from posting altogether you are seriously misinformed dude, Pm me and i can fill you in on some of the stuff your confused on and help you out, always willing to help out newbies to bodybuilding and fitness and stuff.

 

[blazee]

False, because i didn't just say "JUST DO LAT PULLDOWNS", i said lat pulldowns, ect, meaning other machines like vertical row, chest press, ect.
If your not going to have an intelligent discussion please just refrain from posting altogether you are seriously misinformed dude, Pm me and i can fill you in on some of the stuff your confused on and help you out, always willing to help out newbies to bodybuilding and fitness and stuff.

Most machines are still isolation exercises (excluding a few). None of them really build up core strength like a squat or deadlift.

 

[Rockerr]

Deathsnova, you're talking like you're 25 and have been going to the gym past 5 years. Judging by your body stature you haven't the gym in ages. This guide is flawed, age doesn't involve this subject so don't bring it up. Blazee is on the right track with some of his points and so is the OP, some of the OP's points are misleading however.

 

blazee, Deathsnova, both of you stop arguing I have infracted you both,you both should know better than to hijack someones thread with your pointless arguing,
If you want to argue with each other take it to PM and don't get too out of hand.

 

[Delta Squad]

Blaze maybe you should sit this one out, you are 15 and don't really know anything about the subject, you THINK you do, you THINK you know whats best, but what youve heard is misleading crap from bodybuilding forums and /fit/ and it doesn't make any logical sense. I suggest you stop thread hijacking this guy, you've made your point that you don't agree, now stop telling off everyone else he's trying to help, make your own thread if you want to misinform people and leave this one alone.

arn't you 15? and i've seen your photos, so what makes you a weightlifting expert?


leave it to the people who acctlly have lifted weights kiddo.


@the op.

salmon is a good choice over tuna if possible, there is nothing wrong with creatine, also, just lifting weights with no set plan will not get you what you want, you can go to the gym all year round and still get minium results, fact of the matter his you need to rotate HIIT with endurance training.

lifting weights only also is a bad idea, you need to work on cardio, no that does not mean get on a tredmill, go jogging outside prefably on soft grass. don't neglect jump ropes ethier.

 

[Morally Skilled]

The information in this thread is extremely misleading.. It's like a typical 15 year old kid's broscience guide, and some of the responses are pretty lulsy.

Don't listen to bb.com or /fit/, Sythe.org nonlifting posters have much better knowledge. Makes sense.

Hi guys i noticed there is no info on here for people who need to train in the gym, ive been training for a good few years and i live with my cousin who is a personal trainer,

Most personal trainer's clients are fat women doing crunches over a bosu ball with no change in diet. Does he even lift?

Protein: Helps your muscles recover when they have been torn, that is why you should always leave a day of recovery (no training) after a gym session.

brb did legs yesterday, arms don't work cant work any other body part. A day of rest between muscle groups, sure.

You can only take in about 40 grams of protein at each sit in, but you should be having protein throughout the day, protein shakes do help, they help you get your protein fix with no hassle. I recommend drinking it with water as it has less fat content..

You can eat one meal with all of your macros (In one sitting) and make perfectly fine gains.

Flat out wrong on the protein/sitting.

source:
http://www.wannabebig.com/diet-and-...ch-protein-the-body-can-use-in-a-single-meal/

lol @ protein fix

There are different types, i also reccommend ones which have amino acids in them.

you don't say... you want amino acids in your protein?

I do not recommend drinking creatine though as its not that good for your liver...

Tins of tuna and other fish is really good for training, they have virtually purely protein and them good fish oils which are excellent for brain function and that energy.

Doesn't recommend creatine, mercury in tuna is fine.

Carbs = energy. I recommend eating GOOD carbs (these include brown bread, brown rice, etc.) and GOOD fats (this includes fats from nuts and fish, very nice omega 3 and 6. This will give you more energy and put in that extra effort when in the gym. Be careful about eating too much carbs though, it will not be good news if your trying to get that ripped 6pack!

Carbs are fine, minor bloating especially if you don't drink enough water.

A tin of protein has typically 25g of protein in each tin and less than a gram of carbs and fat, it is a super food! Also its one of the few foods in this society which havent been tampered with so your getting fresh fish.

u w0t m8. Canned tuna is fresh, yeah okay.

tricep and chest are the best punching muscles aswell so it is practical.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/a_totw9.htm

Dips are really good for stomach, shoulders, chest, tricep, these are a really useful exercise and i recommend doing them in between sets of weights. The more often you do them, the more easier it gets until it is easier than jogging.

the fuck? lolllll wtf

upside down V shape

v-taper... those are lats. (not your shoulders or chest)

Situps are very important for your 6pack! they help you get that V shape aswell, it really attracts the chicks haha. Do your situps! you can do these every day as your stomach muscles repair faster.

Abdominal muscles are exactly the same as other muscles, they respond to heavy lifting. Situps don't help.

Dont neglect them leg exercises! your legs are very powerful and practical tools, plus you dont want to look like arnold schwartzneger with the legs of russel brand.

finally a good piece of information! nitpicking the fact that you wont look even close to arnold without knowing how to lift (and juice) correctly.

cliffs:
dont listen to OP

This thread is actually pretty harmful to people who may be interested in lifting. Completely butchers the fundamental ideas surrounding lifting, and actually making progress. (Not like any logical person would take advice from someone on this forum.)

 

[MCFC]

this is a good guide and has helped me alot, although i do a few things different but overall its good guide

 

I'm going to close this.
I've read it over and there are a few things that are wrong. I've been lifting weights for a while now and I can see there are few things in there that are wrong.. :/

Next time you make a guide try to structure it a bit better too (not why I am closing it but if a guide looks good, more people will read it)