Flunking highschool into...

[PijaVenosa]

So I am about to flunk highschool.

Never really liked it anyone, this would provide me a good opportunity to quit it. It may sound like a cliche and wasted but, I wasn't learning anything there anyways, except for some special subjects like Literature,art, and AIS; I am just not into that stuff.
Do I really need school?
In most subjects I had finished learning what would be taught in the last years a long time ago. It's funny how they set us up for 5 hours a day for 180 days and all it took was a day or 2 of interested reading to learn what would be taught for maths throughout the year.If I don't flunk highschool I think I am going to quit anyways.
There are two things that bother me though.
1. It would be disgusting, what would I do after that? I'll be forced to work, I won't be supported by my parents any longer. I just haven't ever considered it, it was just out of the question, it's ridiculous how it made more sense to go to school to sleep, and draw, and draw, and sleep. As I write this, it is evident there is nothing good to come out from highschool, at least not for me.
2-This is the most pragmatic side of the equation.Is it really a requirement to complete secundary education to enter into a university? That seems as ridiculous as my secundary education to me. Regarding the field I am interestied in, I am loaded with knowledge, I have no doubt I am more than ready to enter any university. But will any accept me? Given my dubious history in highschool and my uncredited knowledge. What can I do to enter a university, provided I am knowledgeable in the field and I am willing to study a lot more.
The other question, is the cash. Even if I go to a public university, I'll have to work, I'll definitely have to work for food and rent. Working would be a big problem, but it's the only solution. The thing is, that's as much as I can afford? Going to a state-funded university?
I gathered that there are a lot of foreign unis ( USA would be foreign) with dorms and roommates. Would any of those be an option?
I would need to
A- Get in.
B- Have a job that pays or close to pays for the full tuition. How much do monthly tuition fees range for? Is that attainable on an entry-level job?

I'm delusional...
Someone care to slap me with the cold fist of reality?

 

[Lord LaLa]

1: Yes you do need to get a high school degree to get into university. The only way around it would be to do an entry to higher education course (or the equivalent in your country). I.E. In the UK if you do not have the relevant qualifications to get into university, some courses have an extra year to start off with which would be an extensive year of study to cover what should have been covered in high school/college.

2: With studying in different country's, it all depends on the course. Most American University's charge ~$20,000 - $75,000 per year for the course, so unless you can get scholarships from your country to study abroad and find sponsors to help you, it could be quite hard to get the funds.

In all my advice is to buck up your idea's, stick your head down and get the work done, you might not enjoy it, but in the end it will work better than just dropping out/flunking and not being able to go to university to do what you want to do.

 

[Shadowstrike111]

Just finish high school dude. It's boring, but boring is good sometimes.

 

[mynameisjoe]

You should definitely get your diploma. Most of the time, it is required to get into a university, and even if you don't end up applying to one, employers often require it. They like to see that you can work hard enough, and put enough effort in to graduate high school.

 

[Saint Grimm]

So I am about to flunk highschool.

Never really liked it anyone, this would provide me a good opportunity to quit it. It may sound like a cliche and wasted but, I wasn't learning anything there anyways, except for some special subjects like Literature,art, and AIS; I am just not into that stuff.
Do I really need school?
In most subjects I had finished learning what would be taught in the last years a long time ago. It's funny how they set us up for 5 hours a day for 180 days and all it took was a day or 2 of interested reading to learn what would be taught for maths throughout the year.If I don't flunk highschool I think I am going to quit anyways.
There are two things that bother me though.
1. It would be disgusting, what would I do after that? I'll be forced to work, I won't be supported by my parents any longer. I just haven't ever considered it, it was just out of the question, it's ridiculous how it made more sense to go to school to sleep, and draw, and draw, and sleep. As I write this, it is evident there is nothing good to come out from highschool, at least not for me.
2-This is the most pragmatic side of the equation.Is it really a requirement to complete secundary education to enter into a university? That seems as ridiculous as my secundary education to me. Regarding the field I am interestied in, I am loaded with knowledge, I have no doubt I am more than ready to enter any university. But will any accept me? Given my dubious history in highschool and my uncredited knowledge. What can I do to enter a university, provided I am knowledgeable in the field and I am willing to study a lot more.
The other question, is the cash. Even if I go to a public university, I'll have to work, I'll definitely have to work for food and rent. Working would be a big problem, but it's the only solution. The thing is, that's as much as I can afford? Going to a state-funded university?
I gathered that there are a lot of foreign unis ( USA would be foreign) with dorms and roommates. Would any of those be an option?
I would need to
A- Get in.
B- Have a job that pays or close to pays for the full tuition. How much do monthly tuition fees range for? Is that attainable on an entry-level job?

I'm delusional...
Someone care to slap me with the cold fist of reality?

Ok, I'll share with you my own story here. I'm a smart person, through school I had straight A's. I was the top of my class. But to me, it was boring as fuck. I had better things to do than listen to a teacher tell me shit that I already knew. I'd rather get drunk and smoke some pot than sit there reading papers. I wanted to work. So, I quit going, my freshman year I had all A's still, but I was failed because I had a 32% attendance. So my 2nd freshman year, I went to an alternative school, which was even easier and even boring so I had even less motivation to go, so instead, I sat at home with my friends, smoked pot and played video games all day. At one point in school I was given an assignment to right a report about any famous person I wanted. I chose Kurt Cobain. This was the first time I did any real research on him and I found the conspiracy about his death... and the report about him, became a report on why his death was a murder, not a suicide. I'll share some facts at the end incase you dont know them.... Anyway, I typed around 368 pages in 2 days. The teacher read the first 3 pages, and threw the report away said "this has to much drugs and crap to be school appropriate" And after that school year.. I just never went back.

From there, I started applying at factories, shit like that. I wanted hard work, I didn't want to go to school because all it was was sitting at a desk looking at papers, I wanted to do manual labor. But long story short, I'm almost 21 years old now and only been called into ONE fucking interview. Every month for the past 5 years I have put in my application everywhere I could think of, even up to 30 miles out of town and only had ONE PERSON call me back. Thats how important a piece of fucking paper is. I'm a good, hard worker. I'm a wiz at math and I could write books if I got back in the habit of using proper grammer and spelling, most of the time I use shortcuts like "u" instead of "you" and most the time I dont use punctuation, if I could get back into the habit, I could be a famous author, but thats not what I want to do. But see, in the world today, no matter how good you can do a job, no matter how dedicated you are to your work, the only thing that matter is a fucking piece of paper saying you finished school. The one job that called me for an interview is the factory where my mom works, my mom said the guy they hired instead of me, had to ask people how to do the math to figure out how many parts he needed to make... The shift before him finished 2000 skids, they needed a total of 6348 skids... THE MOTHER FUCKER DIDNT KNOW HE WAS SUPPOESD TO DO 6349 MINUS 2000 TO FIGURE IT OUT BUT THEY HIRED HIM OVER ME BECAUSE OF A PIECE OF FUCKING PAPER SAYING HE WAS A HIGHSCHOOL GRADUATE!!!

Now, about 2 months ago, I got my GED. (General Education Degree, or as I like to call it, the Good Enough Degree) It is suppose to be 100% equivalent to a high school diploma. I havnt found a job yet, but I think thats mainly due to my looks, I've got a long beard and prison tattoos up and down my arms and on my hands and fingers. But, I aced my GED test. In the GED class they told us 75% of high school graduates could not pass the test. I fucking ACED it! Now that I got a piece of paper, the only qualification that matters in the world today, I hope to get a job soon. So, if you are going to drop out of school, I suggest you visit a GED class and take the enrollment test to see how well you score before you do drop out, because if you don't think you can pass the GED and you quit school, you may never EVER find a job.





Now, because I like to share information with people....

The Kurt Cobain conspiracy I wrote a 368 page report about... The signs are obvious.

The gun - The gun was to long for him to pull the trigger with anything other than his toes, his body was found with his shoes still on.

The Suicide Note - You can find a picture of this on google images, just search "Kurt Cobain Suicide Note", that simple, examine it yourself. The bottom half of the note is NOT the same hand writing as the top half, meaning someone other than him wrote the bottom half, and his wife, Courtney Love, was found with a 2nd page to the note later, which changed everything, the first page alone sounded like he may have kinda been planning to end his life, the 2nd page shows he was planning on quitting his music career, not his life.

The Wife - Courtney Love ran off with their "man maid" right after the death.

Kurts Own Words - A friend of his reported that he came to him for a gun because he said he was in fear of his life, that courtney was going to kill him.

El Duce - Lead singer/drummer for the "rape rock" band "The Mentors" told reporters that courntey love had offered him 1 million dollars to kill Kurt (this was all said after Kurt was found dead). Not long afterwards, El Duce was outside drinking with his band mates/friends after their concert, and they say a woman they had never seen before came up and asked El Duce to go on a walk... He never returned. His body was later found on the train tracks, his official cause of death was "misadventure"...




Sorry for all the extras in this post, as that last part about Kurt's death has nothing to do with what this thread is even about, however, I do think it's important for truths to be known, even after its to late for the truth to have any effect on the situation. Hope the first part of this post can help you.

 

[pur3bloody]

Honestly, in my personal opinion, school doesn't mean shit, as long as you're smart as fuck and you can handle yourself, I honestly think a diploma should not show who gets a job and who doesn't get one in today's society, but alas, to get a job in this society, you will need that diploma. Might as well suck it up and get it.

 

[PijaVenosa]

Thanks for responding and thanks for the read.
It's looks like the pretty obvious path is to get a diploma.
I did some research and it looks like I can go to nightly highschool, and it's something like 2x faster (at least here), it only takes 1 year so that would be 1 year less in highschool, don't see why I have been going to normal highschool up until now then. It will be full of grown up guys and it is a possibilty that it will decrease my chances of getting a job, but taking into account that I'll go to a university, doesn't seem like a problem.
Looks like that's the way to go. Thanks for the help.
Also, 30K$ per year??? Fuck that. I heard almost all students in Usa are on gov funded loans, though.

Is it true that in GB there is an imposed maximum of 9K pounds per year? And 3.6K pounds in north ireland?
I reckon there must be some hidden fees, but isn't 3.6K pounds per year reeeeally cheap?

Anyway, I typed around 368 pages in 2 days.

Wtf? that's 8 pages per hour without sleeping...Publish it?

 

Well.. I'm nearly 21 and I'm currently in university.
Let me give you some advice now: Do not flunk school.

Although you may hate school (I did too at your age) it does help you a lot. I can see from your english skills (I don't know if they are genuine mistakes or you were just typing fast) that it's unlikely you'll get a high paying job. To me it sounds like you are a very lazy person.

Trust me when I say "enjoy school and enjoy everything in your life being free and paid for by your parents"...
It's only a few years of your life which can make a big difference on the majority of your life.

 

[S]

School is a necessity to get into University. Unless you wait till you're 25 and apply as a mature age student - even then there are certain requirements.

Stick with it, and it will pay off. I suggest you look up online what you want to pursue in University, which University and what the entrance requirements are. Once you have an idea of what's needed and what you want to do, it will make your decisions in relevance to school alot easier. I.E, what subjects to take, how well you need to do etc.

 

[ssarekcuf]

What's bullshit is how everything revolves around Univerisity. Why should a stupid paper with a couple signatures on it decide whether an employeer should hire me or not? I mean, every single job out there that provides a substaniable amount of money to live off of requires a diploma. Then we spend another 4-8 years stressing over grades, then IF we get a job after recieving a diploma, we spend another 15-30 years paying the damn bills for it.

And another thing, the things you learned in college mean absolutly nothing (other than science and language arts) as you still have to undergo another month or so to be trained to do the job the employeer hired you to do. Why not just skip the college bullshit and get right to being trained for the job you want to do?

 

[pur3bloody]

What's bullshit is how everything revolves around Univerisity. Why should a stupid paper with a couple signatures on it decide whether an employeer should hire me or not? I mean, every single job out there that provides a substaniable amount of money to live off of requires a diploma. Then we spend another 4-8 years stressing over grades, then IF we get a job after recieving a diploma, we spend another 15-30 years paying the damn bills for it.

And another thing, the things you learned in college mean absolutly nothing (other than science and language arts) as you still have to undergo another month or so to be trained to do the job the employeer hired you to do. Why not just skip the college bullshit and get right to being trained for the job you want to do?

Well, if you read what you wrote and look at all the spelling errors, that is why the piece of paper would matter if you want to get hired.

 

[Fendle]

Well, you should finish high school to get a basic education. I didn't go university, you can always just do a part time course or a apprenticeship or something.

 

[Austintheman]

What's bullshit is how everything revolves around Univerisity. Why should a stupid paper with a couple signatures on it decide whether an employeer should hire me or not? I mean, every single job out there that provides a substaniable amount of money to live off of requires a diploma. Then we spend another 4-8 years stressing over grades, then IF we get a job after recieving a diploma, we spend another 15-30 years paying the damn bills for it.

And another thing, the things you learned in college mean absolutly nothing (other than science and language arts) as you still have to undergo another month or so to be trained to do the job the employeer hired you to do. Why not just skip the college bullshit and get right to being trained for the job you want to do?

Why are you asking us? Are we the employers? No, we're people who see what you're saying, but unfortunately it's not how it works in the real world. You're preaching to the choir.

To OP, graduate high school dude. If you don't spend the next 4 years doing it, you're gonna have an even harder time getting a job for the next ~10 years (assuming you're ~15?). As someone else said on the thread, they were thinking the same way you were and they haven't had a job interview in 5 years.

I'm going to be harsh. With your shit grammar/spelling displayed in the thread, you will not get hired anywhere. You can be lazy and not finish high school, but all I'm going to say is good luck in the future. If everybody is able to drop out and live life well, why isn't it happening? Because there's no such a thing.

Stop being lazy. Attend class for 4 years and make the best of it.

 

[DMR]

Why are you asking us? Are we the employers? No, we're people who see what you're saying, but unfortunately it's not how it works in the real world. You're preaching to the choir.

To OP, graduate high school dude. If you don't spend the next 4 years doing it, you're gonna have an even harder time getting a job for the next ~10 years (assuming you're ~15?). As someone else said on the thread, they were thinking the same way you were and they haven't had a job interview in 5 years.

I'm going to be harsh. With your shit grammar/spelling displayed in the thread, you will not get hired anywhere. You can be lazy and not finish high school, but all I'm going to say is good luck in the future. If everybody is able to drop out and live life well, why isn't it happening? Because there's no such a thing.

Stop being lazy. Attend class for 4 years and make the best of it.

Many billionaires around the world are drop outs and are living in luxiorious houses so you aren't entirely right although I get what you mean. Not everyone who drop out end up with billions, its pretty rare, actually really rare. Just finish High School and get that diploma. It'll make life so much easier and you'll find a job whereas without it, your chances are slim.

 

[ssarekcuf]

Well, if you read what you wrote and look at all the spelling errors, that is why the piece of paper would matter if you want to get hired.

Oh yeah, you're right. I frogot that only grammar matters when you apply for a job. How stupid of me.

 

[PijaVenosa]

Well.. I'm nearly 21 and I'm currently in university.
Let me give you some advice now: Do not flunk school.

Although you may hate school (I did too at your age) it does help you a lot. I can see from your english skills (I don't know if they are genuine mistakes or you were just typing fast) that it's unlikely you'll get a high paying job. To me it sounds like you are a very lazy person.

Trust me when I say "enjoy school and enjoy everything in your life being free and paid for by your parents"...
It's only a few years of your life which can make a big difference on the majority of your life.

They are probably genuine mistakes for the most part, but it's not like it'll make a big difference, I don't live in an english speaking country and I am not being taught any english. All the english that I "learn" comes from forums like these and watching movies and reading books, I wish I had the initiative to enter an english institute (or something).
I wish I could enjoy school, but it's pretty hard when it is shitty. We have 12 teachers this year, 6 of those do absolutely nothing. There is teacher's strike about 5 days per month. And some of the teachers who actually do something are incompetent, I used to correct my english teacher often, then I just stopped because he got angry and it felt like a lack of respect. Imagine it, with my shitty grammar I am correcting my teacher.
I swear I would enjoy school if it were something like a decent private school.

What's bullshit is how everything revolves around Univerisity. Why should a stupid paper with a couple signatures on it decide whether an employeer should hire me or not? I mean, every single job out there that provides a substaniable amount of money to live off of requires a diploma. Then we spend another 4-8 years stressing over grades, then IF we get a job after recieving a diploma, we spend another 15-30 years paying the damn bills for it.

And another thing, the things you learned in college mean absolutly nothing (other than science and language arts) as you still have to undergo another month or so to be trained to do the job the employeer hired you to do. Why not just skip the college bullshit and get right to being trained for the job you want to do?

Because I want to go there to learn, not to get a piece of paper.

Why are you asking us? Are we the employers? No, we're people who see what you're saying, but unfortunately it's not how it works in the real world. You're preaching to the choir.

To OP, graduate high school dude. If you don't spend the next 4 years doing it, you're gonna have an even harder time getting a job for the next ~10 years (assuming you're ~15?). As someone else said on the thread, they were thinking the same way you were and they haven't had a job interview in 5 years.

I'm going to be harsh. With your shit grammar/spelling displayed in the thread, you will not get hired anywhere. You can be lazy and not finish high school, but all I'm going to say is good luck in the future. If everybody is able to drop out and live life well, why isn't it happening? Because there's no such a thing.

Stop being lazy. Attend class for 4 years and make the best of it.

Thanks for the harshness, it has probably made me more likely to go to english classes.

I'll be getting a job for the next 1-2 years of highschool and I'll start stacking my money. Don't really know why, it won't make much of a difference, but it'll probably come in handy in the next 6-7 years. If I can't deal with a sad burger-flipping job for 1 year, I probably can't deal with 5 years of uni.

Thanks again for everyone's input.

 

I dropped out of high school and went to college - it's a more relaxed, grown-up atmosphere and I find it a lot more enjoyable than high school.

 

[Elena]

You need a high school diploma but fortunately if you can get into a university you have a fresh start at grades and your future.

 

[Apith]

Wtf? that's 8 pages per hour without sleeping...Publish it?

8 Pages and roughly 2000 words an hour. 16 pages or 4000 words an hour if he did it for 12 hours a day. Assuming his typing speed is above average, and put it at 70 words per hour, he would have to continuously write for 30mins nonstop every hour, or basically every second which gives him no time for research (16 pages an hour). He would have no time to think what he writes. Not to mention I have no idea how much information one could write, without repeating, 100,000 words about that conspiracy theory. When you could sum it up with 200 words. Not to mention he basically said he was 16 as well. I call BS.

Many billionaires around the world are drop outs and are living in luxiorious houses so you aren't entirely right although I get what you mean. Not everyone who drop out end up with billions, its pretty rare, actually really rare. Just finish High School and get that diploma. It'll make life so much easier and you'll find a job whereas without it, your chances are slim.

Almost all of those billionaires you are talking about have dropped out of Uni. Which also means they completed High School. Not to mention they thought outside the box and created opportunities for themselves. Something that's much harder in the world of today. Anything new you can think of has most likely been thought of, or been done somewhere. The internet is partly to blame, because you can search anything you think is original, somewhere else.



If people didn't have to go to Highschool, we'd see majority of the people doing nothing useful with their life. And that's long enough for them to become lazy enough to refuse to go to Uni when the time comes. You cannot have 14 year olds in University when they haven't experienced life and attained knowledge that would benefit them in University. In your everyday experience, whether it be in school or not, you could learn something new and useful.

And just because you say you are loaded with information for the field you're interested in, you should go straight to uni. People changes their mind. Some takes up another course when they're done, some switch, some changes their mind at the last minute. And most important of all, by the time you are in University, you should be mature enough. And you understand how to be mature by the time you're the right age (when you're done with HS).

How could you tell a company you want to work for that you are smarter than all other applicants who either have a piece of paper saying they finished HS/Uni. While you tell them you are a Highschool drop out. I don't believe you're even as smart as you claim to be if you're flunking.

I know and I see HS as a distraction, it's a distraction to keep teenagers off the streets, to keep them on the path they should be headed (learning) until they're mature enough to make their own decisions and think outside of the box. Then that's where University comes into play, depending on your course. Entering uni at a young age won't put you at your best, skipping Highschool will give you too much free time to do nothing.

 

[cig123]

Here is the thing, high school grades only matter when getting into college. If your grades are beyond repair you can get your GED and continue on to community college. Once you have a significant amount of credits most colleges will not put much weight on high school grades and will mainly evaluate based on your college grades.

I barely passed high school as I liked to do a lot of drinking and drugs, but after 1 and year a half of excellent grades in community college I was accepted into a top 100 Computer Science university.

My advice is to graduate high school and continue you on to community college and feel out what you're interested in. I did a year of carrying bricks and stone as a labourer out of highschool. You do not want a tough and unskilled manual labor job for the rest of your life.

tl:dr Stay in school and graduate.