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Few questions about RiD.

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I would say if you wanted to gold farm bad enough you could just learn Simba or hire your own private scripter. From what I hear RiD is pretty much just training the easy/repetitive skills.
 
inpherus said:
IF you want to use RiD for goldfarming, I highly do NOT recommend it, at $65 for 1000 cred, any bot amking 300-500k per hour will only give you about $15-20 profit in 1000 hours, don't be fooled and do your calculations.
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Ya you missed the part about the bot not being made for goldfarming (thats what prompted jagex to nuke the injection/reflection bots in the first place).

But ya,we just have to wait and see, I am sure both Simba and RiD will go down once Jagex releases their updates but I doubt it will be for long since you cannot get rid of color bots without making it confusing for real players.
 
M_A_I_N_FTW said:
Simba and Rid is also both getting OpenGL Inception( What we call) / Reflection( What Rid calls apparently) in the future, which is like a unstoppable version of reflection..

Funny how both bots got it off moparisthebest.com...
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Actually RiD does not have anything to do with OpenGL nor does he have any plans in the future to implement it as well. But it does look like promising technology in being the next "big" thing in botting.
 
I'm sorry if I'm being dumb right now but if the owners of RiD would allow a goldfarmer to use more than one account per script it could be a quite profitable way, despite the 8 cents cost each hour.

Allow me doing some calculations:

If I were to run Black Smith and smelting steel bars (or any similar method making 0,2M/h), every account of my farm makes 4 cents profit each hour (12 cents - 8 cents). 12 cents revenue because 0,2M/h * 0,6 dollars a mill (realistic price at this moment).

Run this account 5 full days of botting a week (48 hours trouble margin a week) with 4 weeks a month. This would gain us a profit of 19,2 dollars each month (0,04*24*5*4) for each account. My previous farm had 16 accounts (easily manageable) so this would give us a monthly profit of 307,5 dollars minus 60 dollars cost (4 servers @ 15 dollars each) which is 247,5 dollars.

Everything stated above is hypothetical but I believe it's not that unrealistic. Biggest concern is probably finding a bot able to run 5 full days a week.
 
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Stoer said:
I'm sorry if I'm being dumb right now but if the owners of RiD would allow a goldfarmer to use more than one account per script it could be a quite profitable way, despite the 8 cents cost each hour.

Allow me doing some calculations:

If I were to run Black Smith and smelting steel bars (or any similar method making 0,2M/h), every account of my farm makes 4 cents profit each hour (12 cents - 8 cents). 12 cents revenue because 0,2M/h * 0,6 dollars a mill (realistic price at this moment).

Run this account 5 full days of botting a week (48 hours trouble margin a week) with 4 weeks a month. This would gain us a profit of 19,2 dollars each month (0,04*24*5*4) for each account. My previous farm had 16 accounts (easily manageable) so this would give us a monthly profit of 307,5 dollars minus 60 dollars cost (4 servers @ 15 dollars each) which is 247,5 dollars.

Everything stated above is hypothetical but I believe it's not that unrealistic. Biggest concern is probably finding a bot able to run 5 full days a week.
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RiD doesn't make bots to make money, he does it as a hobby on the side of his real job. RiD hates things that ruin the game, and mass botting goldfarming accounts is what does that. RiD is for the person who wants to competitively level up their main or treasured accounts to earn a place among the elite in rs. RiD will never allow his bots to be used for any kind of mass goldfarming
 
Trent! said:
RiD doesn't make bots to make money, he does it as a hobby on the side of his real job. RiD hates things that ruin the game, and mass botting goldfarming accounts is what does that. RiD is for the person who wants to competitively level up their main or treasured accounts to earn a place among the elite in rs. RiD will never allow his bots to be used for any kind of mass goldfarming
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Why does he account 8 cents an hour if he does not seek to make money? I've never seen such an expensive bot before.

Saying that mass botting destroys the game is true but you're not saying it because you care about the game, it's just to cover your ass a little bit more against legal actions of Jagex :D RiD is illegal nonetheless, you would be more if you allow goldfarmers, that's how it is and that's the reason why you refuse them access. Please stop saying that you won't have business with goldfarmers because of respect for the game, you shouldn't have made a bot in the first place if you had respect for Runescape.
 
Stoer said:
Why does he account 8 cents an hour if he does not seek to make money? I've never seen such an expensive bot before.

Saying that mass botting destroys the game is true but you're not saying it because you care about the game, it's just to cover your ass a little bit more against legal actions of Jagex :D RiD is illegal nonetheless, you would be more if you allow goldfarmers, that's how it is and that's the reason why you refuse them access. Please stop saying that you won't have business with goldfarmers because of respect for the game, you shouldn't have made a bot in the first place if you had respect for Runescape.
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8c/hr is not expensive if you really stop and think about it.

RiD was not intended to be for goldfarmers anyways. RiD isn't greedy for money like Jagex and many bot developers. Trent! never said that RiD was not allowing room for goldfarmers due to respect for RS. RiD hates things that destroy the game, but the average botter who only competitively levels up their main once in a while will likely not destroy RS; goldfarming does.
 
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Stoer said:
Why does he account 8 cents an hour if he does not seek to make money? I've never seen such an expensive bot before.

Saying that mass botting destroys the game is true but you're not saying it because you care about the game, it's just to cover your ass a little bit more against legal actions of Jagex :D RiD is illegal nonetheless, you would be more if you allow goldfarmers, that's how it is and that's the reason why you refuse them access. Please stop saying that you won't have business with goldfarmers because of respect for the game, you shouldn't have made a bot in the first place if you had respect for Runescape.
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Prior to the bot nuke RiD actually was just about losing money from the site, and he has to pay hundreds a month for the servers. 8 cents an hour isn't even that expensive; look at perfect fletcher for example, iirc it's about 12$ or so? You either get 99 in 150 hours or you get banned before then. If you get 99, you paid, oh wait... 8 cents an hour. If you get banned, you paid 12$ to lose the account. Since RiD is more for the players who wants to stay in the elite community, you tend to stay with 1-2 accounts, rather than mass botting multiple accounts, so it's not like you are gonna continue to use the bot after 99.

Also, the number of people who bot RiD on a daily basis is small enough that it has very very little effect on the rs economy. RiD only allows users to run one of each of their bots, meaning you can't mass farm gold or do anything that would effect the economy. Notice how back when RiD was around before free trade came back, all their money making bots made 200-350k an hour, which was fantastic money back then, and will continue to improve as all the other bots stay broken. Almost all users only run one bot at a time, so it's no different to the economy as if they did it themselves.

Also, I do respect the game, and RiD isn't used for goldfarming because he doesn't like how it does ruin the game, it's blatantly obvious how much better our economy and playing environment is since the bot nuke, even with RiD, Simba, and SCAR left.

There is nothing illegal about RiD. All it does is control your computer's mouse and click on objects and items in runescape. It breaks no copyright laws, or anything else. It's against the terms of service, but breaking terms of service for a video game is not against the law. Sure they could attempt to claim damages to the company, but have fun putting a number of profit loss from a userbase that is 98% paying members of Runescape who play from the official rs applet, who view advertisements, etc, all earning Jagex money.

RiD respects the game, he used to play when he was younger, and was actually interviewed multiple times by Jagex themselves for a job there, but decided against it because of the nasty comments Jagex employees made about the players during his visit. RiD doesn't think you should have to spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours sitting monotonously on a computer grinding to earn a 99 or earn the millions of gp that it takes to actually have fun in the game. If you think RiD opinion is such a bad thing, then maybe you need to reexamine some things.
 
Trent! said:
Prior to the bot nuke RiD actually was just about losing money from the site, and he has to pay hundreds a month for the servers. 8 cents an hour isn't even that expensive; look at perfect fletcher for example, iirc it's about 12$ or so? You either get 99 in 150 hours or you get banned before then. If you get 99, you paid, oh wait... 8 cents an hour. If you get banned, you paid 12$ to lose the account. Since RiD is more for the players who wants to stay in the elite community, you tend to stay with 1-2 accounts, rather than mass botting multiple accounts, so it's not like you are gonna continue to use the bot after 99.

Also, the number of people who bot RiD on a daily basis is small enough that it has very very little effect on the rs economy. RiD only allows users to run one of each of their bots, meaning you can't mass farm gold or do anything that would effect the economy. Notice how back when RiD was around before free trade came back, all their money making bots made 200-350k an hour, which was fantastic money back then, and will continue to improve as all the other bots stay broken. Almost all users only run one bot at a time, so it's no different to the economy as if they did it themselves.

Also, I do respect the game, and RiD isn't used for goldfarming because he doesn't like how it does ruin the game, it's blatantly obvious how much better our economy and playing environment is since the bot nuke, even with RiD, Simba, and SCAR left.

There is nothing illegal about RiD. All it does is control your computer's mouse and click on objects and items in runescape. It breaks no copyright laws, or anything else. It's against the terms of service, but breaking terms of service for a video game is not against the law. Sure they could attempt to claim damages to the company, but have fun putting a number of profit loss from a userbase that is 98% paying members of Runescape who play from the official rs applet, who view advertisements, etc, all earning Jagex money.

RiD respects the game, he used to play when he was younger, and was actually interviewed multiple times by Jagex themselves for a job there, but decided against it because of the nasty comments Jagex employees made about the players during his visit. RiD doesn't think you should have to spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours sitting monotonously on a computer grinding to earn a 99 or earn the millions of gp that it takes to actually have fun in the game. If you think RiD opinion is such a bad thing, then maybe you need to reexamine some things.
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I thank you for your notification and I do hope I haven't insulted you.

Your message helped me understanding RiD's philosophy for which I have my gratitude.

Can you please give me a link where your policy is clarified concerning the amount of bots that are allowed to be used simultaneously? Thanks in advance
 
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Stoer said:
I thank you for your notification and I do hope I haven't insulted you.

Your message helped me understanding RiD's philosophy for which I have my gratitude.

Can you please give me a link where your policy is clarified concerning the amount of bots that are allowed to be used simultaneously? Thanks in advance
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essentially you can run 1 of each bot at a time, so 1 Blacksmith and 1 MTA4 can be used at the same time, but not 2 blacksmith, etc.
 
Trent! said:
essentially you can run 1 of each bot at a time, so 1 Blacksmith and 1 MTA4 can be used at the same time, but not 2 blacksmith, etc.
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I heard someone saying that it takes over your PC so you basically cannot do anything else when a bot is running. Is this incorrect?
 
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Stoer said:
I heard someone saying that it takes over your PC so you basically cannot do anything else when a bot is running. Is this incorrect?
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You can use a virtual machine, which takes about 15-20 minutes to set up the first time, but after that it's super easy. It's completely free to do this and one of our super mods stripped down a genuine unlimited copy of windows XP to be used specifically for this purpose

http://www.robotzindisguise.com/forum/showthread.php?2498-How-to-Minimize-Your-Bot.
 
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