Do people, animals, and etc have souls?

Do you think we have a "souls"?

Why or why not?

Soul is defined by Google as "the immaterial part of a person; the actuating cause of an individual life "

Is this what causes individualism?

 

[running down a dream]

yes a soul is the part of humans that can think and feel and experience...matter cannot experience so we need to have a soul...

 

[Renegades009]

No you are mad up of matter. An experience is held in your brian not in a magical "life force."

 

[Damien0124]

No you are mad up of matter. An experience is held in your brian not in a magical "life force."

Exactly. We only exist out of molecules and nothing more. These molecules form everything else, like DNA.

yes a soul is the part of humans that can think and feel and experience...matter cannot experience so we need to have a soul...

I don't know how the body stores information it the brain, because I never studied biology, but people do not have a soul, this concept is totally made up. And matter can store information (experience). Just look at your computer, it doesn't have a soul, yet it memorizes.

 

[Wedel]

When person dies, he goes to heaven or his soul gets stuck between 2 worlds so that's about it.

 

[Swan]

There is no proof of any paranormal entity called a soul, and what we currently know more than makes up for what people use as "proof for a soul".

To give an example, emotions are created by different chemicals reacting in one's brain, just as naturally as hormones making a man's voice deeper. We are biological entities, which means that everything that happens within us is due to some sort of chemical reaction; The energy you gain from eating food is chemical energy, for example.

With these things in mind, I see no reason to believe in such a thing as a soul, considering our bodies usually have the capacity to think, store memories, and so on.

 

[running down a dream]

I don't know how the body stores information it the brain, because I never studied biology, but people do not have a soul, this concept is totally made up. And matter can store information (experience). Just look at your computer, it doesn't have a soul, yet it memorizes.

how do you know that it is made up??

 

[Alternative Illusion]

Your computer memorizes, yes, but it doesn't perceive. Matter and electricity can't explain anything as subjective as experience. Why aren't we just zombies in meat suits? Matter and DNA doesn't explain neither consciousness nor experience. If you can somehow prove that matter and electricity DOES experience, what it implicates is much more significant anyway. Is your computer self-aware? Is the earth? Is the universe viewed as a single object aware and conscious of itself?

 

[Damien0124]

how do you know that it is made up??

Because it is. You are you brain, you aren't some kind of ghost inside a body, which escapes when the body dies. When the body dies, the brain dies, so you die.

And can you provide me some evidence that souls are real?

Your computer memorizes, yes, but it doesn't perceive.

Sensors can perceive. Not in a way living things do, but they perceive.

Matter and electricity can't explain anything as subjective as experience. Why aren't we just zombies in meat suits? Matter and DNA doesn't explain neither consciousness nor experience.

I cannot explain why we experience things, because I know little about biology. But there are alot of studies on how the brain works, these can provide you the answer.

If you can somehow prove that matter and electricity DOES experience, what it implicates is much more significant anyway.

I cannot provide such evidence, because I have no knowledge about this.

Is your computer self-aware? Is the earth? Is the universe viewed as a single object aware and conscious of itself?

My computer is not self-aware, it's a machine. But there are machines being developed which use artificial intelligence.

The earth isn't self-aware, since it's not alive. The things on earth are alive, but earth itself isn't.

I don't think the universe is self-aware, but I do not know what the universe exactly is and how it works, so I will not say that it cannot think.

 

[Give.n.Take]

Humans are much too important to just 'disappear' into thin air. The life and experience of one's self is just nothing? The fact that everyone experiences things, lives, dies and whatnot is too unbelievable to just 'vanish' after death. So there is no purpose in life? It's just to live and die and that's the end of that? No, I believe there must be something that happens to ones experiences, life etc. Just because we don't have any physical proof that anything of the sort happens, doesn't mean it isn't yet to be found out, or wanted to be found out. Why, if you went back to the 1400's for example and told someone about a computers and mobile phones they would think you were crazy and that you had no proof. By just telling someone something, doesn't make it so, neither does it make it forever false. It may currently make it false because there is no physical evidence, but who's to say it isn't true forever long? You don't know, I don't know and no one else knows. It is either to be found out or/and to be experienced to everyone after death.

And to the part about the brain... Pfft, no one, at all understands the brain completely and maybe no one ever will because there really is something similar to a soul that isn't possible to be found out by man. Further found facts about the brain could prove most of the philosophical facts of it. all false and a new theory/fact would arise. Thing is we don't know! Scientists find out they made mistakes all the time through more and more research of a topic, and the fact that, all known understanding of the brain is a tiny, insignificant percentage, we cannot put a solid fact in the philosophical side of facts of the brain as of yet.

Hope everyone caught my drift.

 

[running down a dream]

Because it is. You are you brain, you aren't some kind of ghost inside a body, which escapes when the body dies. When the body dies, the brain dies, so you die.

no you didnt answer me i want to know HOW you know its made up

who made it up

why did they make it up

prove that they made it up

 

[Give.n.Take]

I have to be against running down a dream on this one.

It is made up just as how it was made by someone that made unicorns, the tooth fairy and santa claus.

People made it up. Ofcorse no one recorded who made anything up, it is just spread around.

They made it up for some reason that no one really cares about because it's not important. They made it up because they thought it was a true fact. It's just logic.

You also can't prove that someone actually made it up as if they recorded that they did make it up. It was just a theory that spread from person to person. The person that actually made the theory could've said someone else, anonymous, made it up and no one would ever know and care who did. and why does it matter anyway?

What do you really expect? What do you actually think made up the theory of the soul besides humans? They are stupid questions that you ask.

 

[Damien0124]

no you didnt answer me i want to know HOW you know its made up

Because most spiritual things are, so souls are probably made up too. And there is no evidence that a soul exists.

who made it up

C'mon, this is so simple. Religious people made this up.

why did they make it up

They made it up, for the same reason they make up religions.
A. People are stupid
B. People want to feel secure that they go to heaven when they die
C. People want to control others, so by saying that their soul will go to hell, they can influence people.

There are tons of other reasons.

prove that they made it up

I cannot proof to you that a soul doesn't exist, because you cannot prove that something doesn't exist. Untill there is SOLID proof that there is a soul, I will say that it doesn't exist.

 

[Give.n.Take]

Will anyone reply to my first comment please?

 

[running down a dream]

I have to be against running down a dream on this one.

It is made up just as how it was made by someone that made unicorns, the tooth fairy and santa claus.

People made it up. Ofcorse no one recorded who made anything up, it is just spread around.

They made it up for some reason that no one really cares about because it's not important. They made it up because they thought it was a true fact. It's just logic.

You also can't prove that someone actually made it up as if they recorded that they did make it up. It was just a theory that spread from person to person. The person that actually made the theory could've said someone else, anonymous, made it up and no one would ever know and care who did. and why does it matter anyway?

What do you really expect? What do you actually think made up the theory of the soul besides humans? They are stupid questions that you ask.

you cant just say its made up you have to prove it omfg

 

I don't see how everyone is different in their own way. What causes that? People's brains are wired the same way. What causes our different lifestyles and whatnot?

It can't be proven scientifically but I believe there is such thing.

 

[DropKick Murphys]

you cant just say its made up you have to prove it omfg

How about you, the one asserting the positive, offer some proof?

You've already ignored Finn's request, now I'll just wait for you to do likewise to me.

 

[Swan]

Alright. PROVE that pink unicorns and psychic ravens DON'T EXIST.

I'm eager for your reply, however the burden of proof that there is a soul lies on the person who asserts that there is one. As we cannot prove that something doesn't exist (Proof of non-existence is a paradox) you must prove that it does. Until then, due to our current knowledge of how the body works, I think I'm safe to say that souls probably don't exist.

 

[Give.n.Take]

But isn't the fact that most people in the whole entire earth think that people have souls good enough to counteract with "'there's no proof 'as of yet!''. And unicorns etc. have no reason to be believed in and there has been no single scrap of sign of any things like unicorns. The fact that world scientists only understand a scrap of a percentage of the brain, and that the soul relates to the brain, as some told a 'gateway' to somewhere else, you can't really say you understand most of the body relating to the soul, since you don't understand much about the brain anyway and the brain is practically the only thing in the body relating to souls. And even then, it's only current day knowledge, in the future, alot of things could easily be proven wrong because of some kind of event. I know, currently, you can say it 'probably' doesn't exist but that doesn't change the fact that it might. If there is actually a soul, there is much, much more interesting, revelating facts about things that weren't even supposed to be discovered by man. If there is a soul, it probably doesn't want to be discovered, as it leaves no one with faith or hope. If man already knew about the soul then no one would be afraid of dieing, no one would have faith or hope and everything would be corrupt. So you're only comment is that 'it's just made-up'. You only make this theory via your current knowledge. Just like everyone thought the world was flat. You would be crazy to think that it wasn't flat, until the event that happened, that they launched something, out into space, proving that it was round. Then everyone knew it was. I hope you get my drift.

 

[running down a dream]

How about you, the one asserting the positive, offer some proof?

You've already ignored Finn's request, now I'll just wait for you to do likewise to me.

i have offered an argument i have said that a soul is the only real explanation of how we can experience