[DENIED] User Group for Bond Holders.

[Pikachu]

Recently we bondholders got this awesome fun rank

, which is incredible but every other rank that has sufficient has user group. for people wondering here what user group current gets:

• Different color name on Discord name.
• Display user separately in discord.

I also do believe in discord role should display under omm, and top of cdt.

Bondholder generates money for sythe.org, so I also believe the role name on discord should be "bond holder (donation processor) "

That is all, look forward to reading all the no supports.

 

[S]

No support. You have a fun rank, that's all you need. This is the exact same thing that happened with the community teams, it's definitely not needed, and definitely doesn't warrant mod-esque perks.

 

[Wortel]

It’s not needed indeed but it does make it easier to find bondholders (on Discord) therefore I support.

 

[BMF Jay Hill]

Recently we bondholders got this awesome fun rank

, which is incredible but every other rank that has sufficient has user group. for people wondering here what user group current gets:

• Different color name on forums.
• Different color name on Discord name.
• Display user separately in discord.

I also do believe in discord role should display under omm, and top of cdt.

Bondholder generates money for sythe.org, so I also believe the role name on discord should be "bond holder (donation processor) "

That is all, look forward to reading all the no supports.

I support most all of this. I agree the should be placed above CDT. I agree they should have a discord role, however I do not believe they need their own colors on forums or discord. I agree bond holder help generate money for the site, but let's not forget bond holders take a fee. Yes the fee is for convenience or whatever, but not everyone fee's are the same. Tbh there are also some bond holders that no longer do it but still have stickys. IMO bond holders needs a new lead and/or another one. Not necessarily have access to funds, but can manage stickys and help set clearer guidelines and flat fee's across the board.

Bondholder generates money for sythe.org

While they also generate money for themselves. Again I get it time is money. Just some bond holder fee's are way to excessive.

 

[WantaCookie]

why not, theres a ton of discord ranks anyway

we got $500 role, just recently $1000 role, might as well add this too

 

[S]

To clarify, sure, Discord user group I'm indifferent towards - but, most definitely not forum usergroup colours/titles/whatever.

 

[David]

Support for Discord, but i dont think a custom color on Sythe is needed.

 

[Equipo]

What exactly does a bond holder do?

 

[Pikachu]

What exactly does a bond holder do?

Bond holders process donation in payment method that sythe himself doesn't provide.

 

[owned]

Have to say that I’m on the same page as sellerman. Yes to discord rank (don’t think it’s necessary, but I’m okay with it), no to forum user group type perks.

 

[NukeACola]

+1 for discord sythe colour pointless

 

[zwei siegen]

We already tried giving people different colors in the past (CDT/PR/TC) and it was a big backlash.
For reference:
[POLL] CDT/PR/TC - Usergroup colours/markups
Promotions and Changes

Different color name on forums.

We tried it before, refer to above, no support.

Different color name on Discord name.

I'm personally not a big fan of the Discord being a big rainbow of different colors, no support.

Display user separately in discord.

I will support this if it replaces the $500/$1000 donor rank separation, having too many just makes it a mess and is gonna take the purpose away.
(I don't mind the $500/$1000 donor rank but I don't see a reason for it to be separated)

 

[Tyler]

• Different color name on forums.
• Different color name on Discord name.
• Display user separately in discord.

Maybe have them in a section on discord. I don't think it serves the forum well to have bond holders have the same perks moderators have

Tbh there are also some bond holders that no longer do it but still have stickys.

Report the thread and it will be taken down

IMO bond holders needs a new lead and/or another one. Not necessarily have access to funds, but can manage stickys and help set clearer guidelines and flat fee's across the board.
Again I get it time is money. Just some bond holder fee's are way to excessive.

There are a few bond holders who pride themselves in having low fee's or attempting to have no fees. If people have issues with the fees certain bond holders charge they are free to go to other bond holders. As well as we are always accepting new bond holders. Just PM me with what methods you are willing to take and I can get the process started for you.

I'm not sure what you mean by "New lead" there is no head bond holder. Matthew oversees the system but is not directly involved in it.

We already tried giving people different colors in the past (CDT/PR/TC) and it was a big backlash.
For reference:
[POLL] CDT/PR/TC - Usergroup colours/markups
Promotions and Changes

The community teams are not on the same level of bond holders in terms of tasks and responsibilities so I don't think its fair to compare them.

 

[Pikachu]

I see a lot people complaining saying the color names and saying it's mod perk,
I forgot that CDT and TC can't do that (thought they could when I was writing a section, let pretend I wasn't in cdt for past 2 years), so I have removed it from the suggestion mb guys, but saying that it should most likely be a thing, when you consider the fact that ranks that have colour names atm (omm/staff) are ranks voted in by trust, so i bondholder which makes different then cdt,tc etc

 

[BMF Jay Hill]

I don't see any reasons not to support the colors besides personal bias.

• They have have a special role in the community so a separate color is appropriate.
• Makes it easier to identify that they are a part of those teams without having to visit the website or clicking on their discord profile looking at their roles.
• A color that lets someone stand out may be just enough to push someone that wasn't sure if they wanted to volunteer their free time to improve the community and apply for a position.

So +1 support for color name in discord

And I would like to amend my previous statement about no support for color. I will support a color in discord, but not site.

 

[Andy]

I think having them ranked separately on discord is fine but I don't think they should have a user group on the website. So I guess half support?

 

[Luffy]

I think having them ranked separately on discord is fine but I don't think they should have a user group on the website. So I guess half support?

Exactly what I was going to say. I think since CDT doesn't have it's own usergroup - bond holders shouldn't either.

 

[Pikachu]

Exactly what I was going to say. I think since CDT doesn't have it's own user group - bond holders shouldn't either.

What your missing is one key difference between bondholder and cdt,

All current user groups that is evaluated by the trust (besides bondholder) have user groups, OMM/staff.

CDT and TC are not evaluated by trust, our responsibilities and roles are 100% different and should not be treated the same.

 

[QBD]

supporting this as it'll be easier to find bond holders on discord. searching on forums for newcomers can be tedious.

 

[Hope]

Support for discord, absolutely no support for anything on the forums