[DENIED] There needs to be a screening process for newly created accounts donating high amounts

It's ridiculous the amount of times I've seen this since I've been on the site in the past month. Over 5+ new guys have joined, donated 100 or 200 dollars and then scammed people a few weeks later for 10x that amount.

@ABN Amro tired contacting me here, charging me 640m for 99 fishing. I denied because 1. I knew what he was doing, and 2. that is a ridiculous price for 99 fishing. Need 1-99 fishing 2 weeks later he runs away with probably 3-4k USD in scamquits. The sad thing is, it won't even be the end of it. He'll make a new account, get a donation processed and rinse and repeat.

The problem is it's just far too easy to donate. It's too easy to hide your actual IP and identity meaning it's impossible for people to catch ban evaders. What they can do however, is increase the screening/requirements for donating. Get someone's identity like gold sites, or make there be a certain account age threshold.

Just do something to identify high donators who join the same day they're throwing $300 into a site that they're supposedly "new" to.

I know this won't pass because it will result in Sythe losing money (even though I'd imagine the bulk majority scammers charge back their donation) but people like @wiji who lost 1.5k will probably never trade on here. The amount of people rinsing and repeating accounts with donation and scamming is appalling on this website and not enough is done to prevent it. So while my proposal harms Sythe in the short term, really it would be helping it in the long term. People will always be scammed, but right now it's too easy for a ban evader to donate a few hundred and keep doing it. Something needs to be done.

 

We won't stop people from donating to help out the website. Its up to individual users to gauge who they trust and vet them properly.

 

It's a free market, this won't be happening. And even if we were to screen people they would continue doing what they are doing, because it's not like something we could do to stop them from scamming, neither is there something we can do after they have scammed. It's too easy to scam and it will always remain easy no matter how many rules and requirements you put in place. All what truly matters here is your own mindset of what you think is acceptable/respectable and what is not. Users such as ABN Amro build up a reputation very quickly that it was quite obvious this would happen. Scammers will always remain part of this community, aswell as scam victims. It's not in the website's interest either to fix/correct this, because they provide a source of income for the website itself.

 

Donating is not the problem, it's naive people who think a newcomer with few trades could be trusted with big amounts

 

You're suggesting that we stop people from donating to keep the site alive, so essentially you'd rather see the website shut down?

This happens often but your suggestion is not going to stop anything. Criminals will continue to use the site/find ways around whatever obstacles are put in place.

 

No I didn't suggest that at all, read the post. I suggested more needs to be put in place to properly identify someone who joins within a week and donates 300 dollars, so they can be caught as ban evaders before anyone is scammed.

 

I did read your post but I'm not entirely sure what you expect can be done, if we're going to require people submit some form of ID, that's going to stop people from registering in the first place. Like I said in my previous post if we put more obstacles, criminals will find a way around them.

Not just that, it's also going to make the legitimate traders put off donating if they have to go through some sort of ID check.

There are already home IP checks in place to make sure a user has posted from a home IP at least once. That system is already easily abused.

 

I like the heart of this idea, but it could never happen for Sythe. This would essentially require the whole marketplace to become a "get ID verified" before posting. Which I actually think is a great idea (they should also charge listing fees) but I'm not sure the age base or size of the market would support it. I also personally don't care if Sythe knows who I am because I only want to engage in legit trades and knowing who I am probably only helps in that regard. Flipz said it would put off legitimate traders, but how? If you're legit you will prove who you are. I am sure scammers do not feel this way lol. Our best bet is to instill newbies to use MMs for big trades even with trusted members. I'd think if you're willing to send $500+ to somebody youd want to use another trusted member for the trade to avoid being scammed...

 

^ sorry boss