[Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

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[Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300
  1. Unread #21 - Jul 12, 2020 at 4:30 PM
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    You dont have 20 threads you need to manually bump every 4 hours to make $ thats why its not worth it to you, some of us really really need a sythe wide autobumper.

    Once you get to a point you have too many threads to do or manually bump youll pay for it.

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  3. Unread #22 - Jul 12, 2020 at 5:07 PM
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    And yet there's still more 200$ donors than 300$ donors. I guess people don't care about 200$ perks then.

    Thought experiment to assess how valuable said perk is: Say we take away all the perks available on Sythe and only add the autobumper perk on 300$. How many 300$ donators will we have then? Less or much less? Now let's say we change 300$ to 500$, what happens then? I don't think you can blatantly ignore the fact that people invest step-by-step, just like their business grows step-by-step. I'm wondering if anyone (Sythe staff) has numbers on how people donate; out of all the 300$ or 500$ donators, how many donations are done at once, in contrast to building it up by adding 50$, 100$, 200$, etc.

    @Yellow_Hat_OSRS_Services I don't see how bragging that your business is bigger than ours adds anything constructive to this debate and how it is a valid response to my pretty nuanced case that I made by explaining my position and my reasoning, friend.
     
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  5. Unread #23 - Jul 12, 2020 at 5:15 PM
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    @President Naturally $200 donor will be more common, but actually I guarantee you that there were more $300+ donors autobumping than $200 donors autobumping before autobumpers were outruled.

    Users that are overly cost conscious like you will not be using autobumpers, as they currently cost anywhere from $50-$150 or $4.92 per day for 20 threads using services such as autobumper.io • Bump your forum threads and topics

    Autobumping not being a $300 perk anymore will NOT noticeably change the incentive to progress to $300 donor. It will increase the incentive to donate more than $300 though.

    P.s. What YH said is completely true for most active traders here, he's not bragging.
     
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  7. Unread #24 - Jul 12, 2020 at 5:19 PM
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    Advertising investments are in their nature risk-assessments and paying for them is always a weigh-off. Have you considered that users might opt to advertise through different means if you make it financially less attractive by changing the donator-impulse? It's not like autobumping monopolizes all advertising rights in this business... Especially when you consider the development of Discord, social media, Reddit, google ads and-so-forth.
     
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  9. Unread #25 - Jul 12, 2020 at 5:31 PM
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    @President are you suggesting that people who've already established businesses here & donated up to $300 would migrate to some other means of advertising their business? Just because they can't autobump at $300 donor anymore?
     
  11. Unread #26 - Jul 12, 2020 at 5:34 PM
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    No, but if change the threshold to 500$, you'll see that a lot of 200$ will shy away from adding 300$, in contrast to what was now, adding 100$ because they'll find other options more attractive. This takes the monthly auto-bumping costs into consideration.
     
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  13. Unread #27 - Jul 12, 2020 at 5:35 PM
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    I'm sorry but I think this is your personal opinion.
    Plenty of people donated over $200 even when autobumpers could be used by anyone.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    I mean, I don't see how you're not shooting yourself in your own foot now. If people don't care about this perk, what's the entire point of this thread then?
     
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    Where did I say people don't care about this perk?
     
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    Ditto.

    For clarity, Richard made this decision, and I'm pretty confident it won't be moving from $300 anytime soon.
     
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    What about an option at $1k where we get a sythe made autobumper tool :eek:
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    But do you not agree that people who will look to use auto bumpers already are $300 donor at a standard?
     
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    Support for autobumers $1000 donors only
     
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    Support as $500 donor perk because:
    <= $300 is packed with features
    $500 donor rank doesnt hold any useful perks- this brings more initiative to donate for QOL changes amongst users
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    dont see how 300$ is not enough to be allowed to autobump
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    I disagree with auto bumpers not being allowed at $300 levels but I agree $500/$1k donors should have better perks. Most people are $200/$300 donors when they could donate more but they don't because you get all the good perks at $200/$300. I know its called a donation but lets be honest most people donate for the perks and it was said there is concern about donation levels going down. I think more perks should be added to $500/$1k many of Magz suggestions I liked. I would recommend someone make the suggestion because when I make a suggestion it gets closed in 45 mins or if it lasts longer eventually gets denied however when Sythe practically said the same thing as me everyone decided to agree smh.
     
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    [Denied] Autobumper Whitelist for $500 or $1000 donator perk rather than $300

    You know what's the dumbest part about this ; say I donate 300$ to be permitted to use an autobumper. Then its changed to 500$, I'm being FUCKED over severly, essentially forced to donate another 200$.
    At the minimum if even considered implementation, should not restrict people who have already donated and only for future donations
     
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    Well, nevertheless... If it changes it changes and no one can fix that. The right thing to do would be to vote on it but seeing as there are more $300 and below donors as opposed to $500+ I doubt it’ll go in the $500+ favor and be pointless.
     
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    If such an update were to happen, staff would probably make it retroactivity (and if not, I really advice you to do so to not piss off all the 300$ donators). It would be pretty shady business it it were to happen though. However, from a legal POV, a donation is an unilateral act and does not create a reciprocal obligation, in contrast to the more general Reciprocal Agreements. So, technically, they could do this without facing much consequences. @sinkovsky
     
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