Dear Skele Master

[a z t e c]

What sin666 said, how would you even know if the account was inactive, you would have to log onto the account in the first place with the intention to scam the account back. I don't see why this is such a big problem, both of them should be banned because both of them hacked the account back then used "oh it's been inactive that's why I hacked it" you didn't even know that until you recovered the account back.

 

[Jet_Black]

*Shrug* cry like a bitch. This is Sythe, we aren't here to follow what Jagex thinks is morally correct. They don't have a problem with it since there is no way to prove the accounts aren't ours.

I've already told people when they go to purchase an account the last log in date, and if necessary a new account will be given or a refund.

If I get banned, then whatever. I've made around $150.

Fucking kids need to GTFO and Q_Q less.

The staff haven't come to a decision on what to do about recovering accounts, so I used my own judgement. I don't think we should allow it, but don't think it's worth banning them for. I asked Pen for a second opinion, and he agreed.

SLAMMED M9

 

[unity]

*Shrug* cry like a bitch. This is Sythe, we aren't here to follow what Jagex thinks is morally correct. They don't have a problem with it since there is no way to prove the accounts aren't ours.

I've already told people when they go to purchase an account the last log in date, and if necessary a new account will be given or a refund.

If I get banned, then whatever. I've made around $150.

Fucking kids need to GTFO and Q_Q less.

It's not what Jagex thinks is morally correct, no idea what thread you are reading or where you got that dumbfuck idea. Hacking/scamming accounts (which IS what this is, just in a rather new manner, well newly revealed to Sythe) is morally wrong and against the rules at Sythe.

Fucking kids need to read the rules and get their own accounts more (faggot Asian keyboard smiley face here).

Edit: To your 'SLAMMED M9' (woops, your fatass fingers don't allow you to reach that 8 huh) you should probably read the post below which says they are currently discussing it in the Staff Lounge so you aren't in the clear yet. Even if you aren't banned, I don't give a fuck I just want there to be less retarded moderating. If you aren't banned, the two other people including Nawoo who were banned will be unbanned so it's a win-win situation for me.

 

[Jet_Black]

It's not what Jagex thinks is morally correct, no idea what thread you are reading or where you got that dumbfuck idea. Hacking/scamming accounts (which IS what this is, just in a rather new manner, well newly revealed to Sythe) is morally wrong and against the rules at Sythe.

Fucking kids need to read the rules and get their own accounts more (faggot Asian keyboard smiley face here).

This isn't hacking or scamming. Fucking retard.

Definitions of hacking on the Web:

* In common usage, a hacker is a person who breaks into computers, usually by gaining access to administrative controls. The subculture that has evolved around hackers is often referred to as the computer underground. ...

Definitions of scamming on the Web:

* A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, swindle or bamboozle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence. ...

Learn what basic words mean before you bitch about rules imo.

I see absolutely no reason why Fuzion wasn't banned for that. Names that were created and never used, sure, the owner won't miss them; but what fuzion was hacking was obviously a once-active account. There are two problems with this: one, just because the owner isn't using it currently doesn't mean he won't return (and what distinction is there to be made between that and a currently-owned account?); two, a user can't tell whether an account is inactive without first hacking it, and then checking the last login - so what, you want users to break the rules and then find out whether it was okay to have?

Most of these accounts have a last log in of 1-2k days ago.

They aren't coming back.






Oh and also, if you really think it's only us 4 recovering these accounts, then you have no right to be calling anyone an idiot or a child.

I know alot of people who are selling recovered accounts even today. Recoverings been around since 2004 but started being badly exploited late 2009.

 

[unity]

This isn't hacking or scamming. Fucking retard.

Definitions of hacking on the Web:

* In common usage, a hacker is a person who breaks into computers, usually by gaining access to administrative controls. The subculture that has evolved around hackers is often referred to as the computer underground. ...

Definitions of scamming on the Web:

* A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, swindle or bamboozle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence. ...

Learn what basic words mean before you bitch about rules imo.




Most of these accounts have a last log in of 1-2k days ago.

They aren't coming back.

It's still the same concept, fucking retard. It may not fit the description you got off Wikipedia but it's the same thing. You gain access to an account that isn't by brute forcing the password with a program. You gain access to an account that isn't yours by another method such as abusing Jagex's shitty recovery system. Same thing you fucking idiot.

Edit: I know it's not just you, I said a lot of people are doing it which is where most of the rare names/rich accounts and 9hp accounts come from. Again you prove to be too incompetent to have read that, bad luck dude. Yes what Aztec said, I forgot to include that. You and three others are the only ones retarded enough to openly admit it. Bad luck again.

 

[a z t e c]

No one thinks it's only you 4, a lot of people recover accounts, but you openly admitted to recovering account that wasn't yours anymore, thus scamming (stolen goods) seeing as there not YOUR accounts anymore. I






Oh and also, if you really think it's only us 4 recovering these accounts, then you have no right to be calling anyone an idiot or a child.

I know alot of people who are selling recovered accounts even today. Recoverings been around since 2004 but started being badly exploited late 2009.

No one thinks it's only you 4, a lot of people recover accounts, but you openly admitted to recovering account that wasn't yours anymore, thus scamming (stolen goods) seeing as there not YOUR accounts anymore.

 

[Skillers FTW]

Just to point out i've bought accounts that have been recovered in the past, and have had no problems with them at all.

 

[Piez Like]

This isn't hacking or scamming. Fucking retard.

Definitions of hacking on the Web:

* In common usage, a hacker is a person who breaks into computers, usually by gaining access to administrative controls. The subculture that has evolved around hackers is often referred to as the computer underground. ...

Definitions of scamming on the Web:

* A confidence trick or confidence game (also known as a bunko, con, flim flam, gaffle, grift, hustle, scam, scheme, swindle or bamboozle) is an attempt to defraud a person or group by gaining their confidence. ...

Learn what basic words mean before you bitch about rules imo.




Most of these accounts have a last log in of 1-2k days ago.

They aren't coming back.






Oh and also, if you really think it's only us 4 recovering these accounts, then you have no right to be calling anyone an idiot or a child.

I know alot of people who are selling recovered accounts even today. Recoverings been around since 2004 but started being badly exploited late 2009.

How do you know they were 1 - 2k days last login till you actually recovered them?

 

[unity]

Just to point out i've bought accounts that have been recovered in the past, and have had no problems with them at all.

Completely irrelevant, that has nothing at all to do with anything right now. Never once has 'I bought a recovered account and it was recovered back off me' been brought up. Never once has the security of selling recovered accounts been brought up. Either you missed the entire point of this (how the fuck?) or you are just introducing dumb irrelevant shit into the thread which will only add unnecessary confusion.

 

[Skillers FTW]

Completely irrelevant, that has nothing at all to do with anything right now. Never once has 'I bought a recovered account and it was recovered back off me' been brought up. Never once has the security of selling recovered accounts been brought up. Either you missed the entire point of this (how the fuck?) or you are just introducing dumb irrelevant shit into the thread which will only add unnecessary confusion.

It adds a little good into the bad. I don't have to worry about getting scammed so much, which is a plus.

 

[a z t e c]

Completely irrelevant, that has nothing at all to do with anything right now. Never once has 'I bought a recovered account and it was recovered back off me' been brought up. Never once has the security of selling recovered accounts been brought up. Either you missed the entire point of this (how the fuck?) or you are just introducing dumb irrelevant shit into the thread which will only add unnecessary confusion.

He's right.
The main point is they recovered the account with the intention to scam, then found out it's last log in was a couple hundred days ago and used that as an excuse.

 

[unity]

It adds a little good into the bad. I don't have to worry about getting scammed so much, which is a plus.

I scammed someones account but I didn't drop his gold before he recovered it.

Just adding a little good into the bad, please don't ban me.

Purely hypothetical by the way, just thought I'd point that out before some retard reports me.

 

[Jet_Black]

It's still the same concept, fucking retard. It may not fit the description you got off Wikipedia but it's the same thing. You gain access to an account that isn't by brute forcing the password with a program. You gain access to an account that isn't yours by another method such as abusing Jagex's shitty recovery system. Same thing you fucking idiot.

Edit: I know it's not just you, I said a lot of people are doing it which is where most of the rare names/rich accounts and 9hp accounts come from. Again you prove to be too incompetent to have read that, bad luck dude. Yes what Aztec said, I forgot to include that. You and three others are the only ones retarded enough to openly admit it. Bad luck again.

Apparently honesty is mental retardation?

You don't know what hacking and scamming are.

I'd like to avoid telling people, but I feel they have a right to know. I get annoyed with questions about it all day. I'm running an honest business with promises of refunds/a new account if they ever magically got stolen.

He's right.
The main point is they recovered the account with the intention to scam, then found out it's last log in was a couple hundred days ago and used that as an excuse.

The intention to scam? what the fuck are you talking about?
If I was here to sell accounts such as xpkerx, (which is active, maxed melee) I would have, but it's last log in was only 50 days ago and therefore it would obviously be recovered.

If a person was last on in 2004 or before that, they aren't coming back.

 

[unity]

Apparently honesty is mental retardation?

You don't know what hacking and scamming are.

I'd like to avoid telling people, but I feel they have a right to know. I get annoyed with questions about it all day. I'm running an honest business with promises of refunds/a new account if they ever magically got stolen.

Try reading all the posts, you would've seen that I mentioned the fact that they may not get recovered back after you sell them is irrelevant (they are still on the list you recovered it off right? irrelevant also just thought I'd say that, someone else could recover it if they used the same RSC list for example). If I scam someones account and sell it but promise a refund, I still broke a rule. Also refer to my other post where I edited that I do know what hacking and scamming are, recovering is just a different variation of scamming and hacking, it's just gaining access to their account through a different way which you seem to think is okay.

 

[Piez Like]

I think you need your diaper changed kiddo.

Anyways, I'm off. Commence with the tears. :'(

On each sale, did you tell the buyer how you got the account, you are not the original owner and you will offer a refund if it is recovered?

 

[LovelyYEWY]

Hacking accountz that are not yours should result in a PERMANENT BAN PEOPLE !!!!!!!!!!
Itz not fair tht u can steal accountz for w/e reason. it aint cool nor is it anything that sythe.org supports.
sythe is completely AGAINST HACKING and STUFF OF THAT SORT.
Blaze and nawoo should remain permed and Jet_Black and Fuzion Ltd MUST be banned ...it is the FAIR AND RIGHT THING 2 DO!

 

[Skillers FTW]

a z t e c you are just assuming that he already sold them, which I doubt.

 

[Piez Like]

On a side note: There is never a gurantee that the original owner won't come back.

Anything could happen; for example, if a mate of his still plays Runescape, and he talks to him about wines, pumpkins and such, the owner could remember having them stocked on his account and could come back temporarily to sell them for $$. I'd assume alot of old accounts contain ALOT of rares.

 

[unity]

On a side note: There is never a gurantee that the original owner won't come back.

Anything could happen; for example, if a mate of his still plays Runescape, and he talks to him about wines, pumpkins and such, the owner could remember having them stocked on his account and could come back temporarily to sell them for $$. I'd assume alot of old accounts contain ALOT of rares.

Indeed they do. Fuzion_Ltd was selling mills he got from recovering a very old account that had 600M worth of masks on it.

Off topic I have seen recovers of accounts with multiple party hat sets, crackers, wines etc.

Anyhow I guess we just wait for the staff to come to a conclusion now.. Seems all the excitement has died in this thread.

 

[HippiePens]

Hey Jet_Black,

Just to let you know, I've quited for over 4 years and started playing again. So don't think people won't get back. I did because I was bored and wanted to see how much runescape had changed in that period of time.